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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/15 17:05:19
Subject: Re:Lets Talk about History.
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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One area I've found particularly fascinating recently is comparative history, and examining the parallels and repeats in history over a given period.
One that particularly jumped out at me was the contrast between France and Russia between the Napoleonic Wars and WW1. In 1815, end of the second Napoleonic war, Russia were seen as the greatest military power in Europe, and a pinnacle of autocracy and stability, while France were weak, leaderless, blighted with opposition factions and unstable to say the least, having a constitutional monarchy with a king that held all the real power.
Fast forward to 1854, and the Crimean war, and suddenly, Russia are hopelessly outdated, Napoleon III has modernised France's military, industry and economy, and has a fairly stable position as Emperor. Alexander II of Russia comes to the throne, the last remaining European Autocrat without a constitution, and tries to improve Russia, but only serves to increase opposition. His son expands the economy and beats opposition, but at the expense of appearing brutal and blind to the people's needs. His son, Nicholas II, becomes the last Tsar, and in 1905, 91 years after France, a constitution is put in place, By this point, France has no monarchy, and is a fully democratic republic.
By 1917, France is holding its ground against Germany, and generally well-supported, while Russia is collapsing into revolution as the people demand more, and the Tsar is willing to give less. The Socialists take power, and it is only by 1920 that Russia has a 'stable'(I use the term loosely) government.
I think this is the real reason why the Russian revolution was so significant and violent, as they underwent the same political change (constitutional monarchy > no monarch, left-wing government) that had taken France the best part of 60 years in just 12 (1905-17). They went from the last great autocratic power to the world's first communist state in such a short space of time, making that one of the most extreme shifts in politics in history.
Apologies to anyone I've just bored to death.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/15 18:33:46
Subject: Lets Talk about History.
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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I wrote a paper on comparative history in senior year. Compare and contrast between the SS and the CCC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/16 00:21:23
Subject: Lets Talk about History.
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Somewhere.. sometime... somebody discovered porn. The world would never be the same again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/16 00:24:03
Subject: Lets Talk about History.
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I am only interested in economic history, and even then anything pre-19th century is basically guesswork. I just enjoy hard numbers, the rest of history seems more or less like guesswork.
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The plural of codex is codexes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/16 00:57:29
Subject: Lets Talk about History.
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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I am most interested in the history of sex, love, and everything that it connects / infects.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/16 01:36:37
Subject: Lets Talk about History.
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Fixture of Dakka
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necrovamp wrote:
May have to watch it. It just occurred to me I know nothing about Korea pre 1950's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Kingdoms_of_Korea
Lots of japanese games are based on this era
Captain fantastic, Japanese Fanboy much.
China, Vietnam, Korea, Mongolia has a rich culteral history, calling it boring doesn't do it justice, Lots of "Japanese" art and tradition originated from China.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/16 01:53:04
Subject: Lets Talk about History.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Medieval Europe mostly.
I like Knights.
And the Mongol conquests, thanks to those books by Conn Iggulden. They really got me interested in the period, despite being largely fictional.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/16 08:38:03
Subject: Lets Talk about History.
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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iproxtaco wrote:Medieval Europe mostly.
I like Knights.
And the Mongol conquests, thanks to those books by Conn Iggulden. They really got me interested in the period, despite being largely fictional.
Though he probably did actually get a lot of things right. They were fantastic books, weren't they?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/16 11:40:26
Subject: Lets Talk about History.
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Hence why he said "boring to me". He didn't say they were boring as an absolute statement, he simply said that HE thinks they're boring, which doesn't have to mean that he can't see why other people might like the history of aforementioned countries.
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For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/16 12:06:45
Subject: Lets Talk about History.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ExNoctemNacimur wrote: iproxtaco wrote:Medieval Europe mostly.
I like Knights.
And the Mongol conquests, thanks to those books by Conn Iggulden. They really got me interested in the period, despite being largely fictional.
Though he probably did actually get a lot of things right. They were fantastic books, weren't they?
They absolutely were, one of my favorite fictional series. He got a lot of things right, he just simplified it to make it easier to digest. Like Mongol culture and society. In the books, it's fairly straightforward. Not inaccurate, just less complicated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/16 15:24:34
Subject: Lets Talk about History.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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I've been reading and watching videos on a lot of history recently.
My favourite periods are all a bit Ireland centric unfortunately, but I'm trying to branch out!
-I love the Dark Ages, the clash of cultures between the Vikings, Gaelic Irish and the Normans in that period is really interesting. It's often used as Nationalists to start the narrative of "Irish Oppression" which makes it interesting for me to study and figure out which bits from school were propoganda and which were accurate.
-Cromwell's war in Ireland is also interesting to study, but what is in some ways more interesting is comparing the coverage of that genocidal maniac/hero of the common man on the west side of the Irish sea to that from our eastern neighbours. It was shocking to me to see a statue of Cromwell outside parliament in the UK, and lead to me reading a lot more about him and realising that rather than a 2 dimensional monster he was a complex man who achieved both great things and terrible things in his lifetime.
-More recently, I've been developing an interest in the 30 years war, because to me it reads like someone took most of continental Europe and put it in a blender for the entire duration. Fascinating to see the gradual emergence of the modern nation state from the reprecussions of that.
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