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Well, I watched FF. And despite people talking about Michael B Jordan being a decent actor...he was garbage in that role (albeit, not entirely his fault, given the train wreck of that movie). But he did nothing to make me think he was Johnny Storm. Nothing at all. They all were piss poor in their roles, but seeing how he was "hand selected" to be a great Johnny Storm...he fell VERY flat. Insulting performance.

Chris Evans=Johnny Storm
Michael B Jordan=Vin Diesel wannabee who sets on fire.

 Polonius wrote:

Second, they point out the complete absence of directors of color, which is one area that nobody really can defend.

Do you mean in nominations, or movies as a whole?? Just about the only "black director" that I can think of, is Tyler Perry, or at least, he's taken on a number of roles behind the camera, so I wouldn't be surprised if he directed his own crap movies.

Now, I don't think Tyler Perry is representative of the creative talent of that demographic, but I think it may, sadly, show that people who choose directors may go "well... we've seen what T.P. does, so "Black Director X" must be the same... let's hire the Jew instead"

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Well, I watched FF. And despite people talking about Michael B Jordan being a decent actor...he was garbage in that role.

He was garbage in Creed too. I was really Psyched for that for that Movie, I rewatched all the rocky films in anticipation, I thought it was going to spawn a whole new generation of cheesy but awesome boxing movies... but it was just gak. People keep saying that he looks like Apollo, but he doesn't, he looks like Kanye West, and Kanye West looks like a douche.

Carl Weathers was awesome as Apollo, Mr T was awesome as Clubber Lang. Both of those guys were around 100KG, and had character. Michael B Jordan is just skinny and unlikeable, I don't understand why he is in action movies at all.

To be fair, I don't think it's that Kanye West looks like a douche, and more than Kanye West is a douche and anyone who looks kind of like him is gonna innately look like a douche

Honestly, I didn't even think of him looking like Kanye (who I think is a PoS). I couldn't care less what he looks like. He just had no personality that could embody the character he was paid to play. Now, really that's Trank's fault. Hiring somebody wholly unrealistic for the role...he put Jordan in a spot to fail. But Jordan also put no emotion into it and was completely unbelievable. They really failed together.

Yay! Those were almost my exact thoughts. Same with Jordan in Creed.

I didn't think Jordan should win, which I never said, but if Stallone is going to be nominated I see no reason Jordan couldn't also be nominated.

I think Jordan was good in Chronicle - he had some pretty strong charisma there, I thought. I think trying to analyze someone's acting prowess based upon how well they did in Fantastic Four is problematic.

 Ouze wrote:
I think trying to analyze someone's acting prowess based upon how well they did in Fantastic Four is problematic.

I think watching Fant4stic is problematic.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I think trying to analyze someone's acting prowess based upon how well they did in Fantastic Four is problematic.

I think watching Fant4stic is problematic.

There's that word again. Problematic. Are you two subscribers of Laci Green's youtube channel?

 Breotan wrote:
There's that word again. Problematic. Are you two subscribers of Laci Green's youtube channel?

No idea who that is, I just used it because Ouze used it. It makes for good symmetry that way.

 Ahtman wrote:
It makes for good symmetry that way.

Your overt ableism against the asymmetric is problematic.

 Polonius wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
It makes for good symmetry that way.

Your overt ableism against the asymmetric is problematic.

I regret nothing but the things I have done wrong.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I think trying to analyze someone's acting prowess based upon how well they did in Fantastic Four is problematic.

I think watching Fant4stic is problematic.

Not if you're drinking and rented it to make fun of for two hours!!
It provided entertainment for me as it was so bad it was easy to ridicule. I also had five others with me.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Not if you're drinking and rented it to make fun of for two hours!!
It provided entertainment for me as it was so bad it was easy to ridicule. I also had five others with me.

At that point anything would have probably worked, and if you had enough to drink with the others even a blank wall probably would have provided amusement.

I probably got it from here.

So I guess it was a good choice when I chose to pass on spending $10 on F4 at Meijer.

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