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 motyak wrote:
Rule 1 isn't optional

That is not true at all. Rule 1 only applies on this forum, once I turn my computer off Rule 1 doesn't rule my world anymore

It was in reference to your post, specifically the 'special bubble' bit. When text is in red like that it is a moderator speaking as a moderator. If you have further questions feel free to PM me.

Sigh. Truly, you were a candle too bright for this fora.

ThatGuyFromThatPlace wrote:
I have no idea how many people die every year from drowning in a bath tub but in 2014 the death toll from terrorist attacks was about 32,000.

As a side note, for bathtubs it's about 87 people per year in the US, and if anyone is curious about that latter citation, it's an older reference but it checks out.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

Spetulhu wrote:
One strange thing with these terrorists is how so many of them are said to have been not very religious at all. Like the guy suspected of planning much of the Paris attacks, Salah Abdeslam - keeping a bar, smoking pot, playing console games and frequenting gay bars.Or quite a few of those who join ISIS and spout one-line slogans they barely understand. What is it that makes a youngster brought up in a western country suddenly decide to dedicate himself to not only a religion he's had little interest in but the most brutal aspects of it?

It would be easy to chalk it up to, "they just don't fit in." But that's not accurate. Non-Muslim kids who don't fit in sometimes shoot up schools, but very rarely align themselves with terror organizations.
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It's very rare with Muslim kids too. Out of about 4 million Muslims in the UK, France and Belgium, about a dozen have done these terrorist attacks over the past 10 years, and a couple of thousand have gone to Syria to join the ISIL.

 whembly wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's nothing sympathetic about ISIL, I'm just trying to explain that there are legitimate reasons to have a negative attitude towards the west beyond "muslims are evil savages hurrr" and I think people who don't want to see that have a lot more in common with the ISIL mindset than they'd like to admit.

So... the west is committing genocide now?

Killing captives alive by setting them on fire?

Is the west raping, burying and crucifying childrens alive because they doing follow a specific faith?

Yes, the west used to do every single one of those. Some US allies do it and you don't see it as a problem as long as they're allies. We grew out of it (mostly... but there's people in this very thread advocating bombing an entire region to get back at a few extremists, so get off your high horse before you fall and break something), the middle east was growing out of it too until you guys started funding and training religious fundamentalists to overthrow legitimate governments for your own interests, Osama being an easy example, supporting dictators like Hussein (until he stopped dancing to your tune of course)...

No, not all extremist actions are direct responses to specific western actions. But the existence of a mindset in which extremist actions are considered an acceptable way to do things in this day and age is the long-term result of US policies towards the middle east.

ThatGuyFromThatPlace wrote:
I have no idea how many people die every year from drowning in a bath tub but in 2014 the death toll from terrorist attacks was about 32,000.

Out of curiosity, how many of those 32K deaths were not in the Middle East? And how many weren't muslims killing other muslims for not being the right sort of muslim?

Hey guys, god told me to stab a muslim.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/man-stabbed-asian-stranger-in-neck-with-scissors-in-revenge-for-isis-beheadings-a6945871.html