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 MrDwhitey wrote:


Does anyone know any more about this?

The comics industry is known for very tight schedules and looking for any way to save time and increase output. It could work if they have a solid pipeline for it but that type of process can end up looking really sterile (and harsh deadlines probably won't help in that case).

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Some people have been saying the comic for this is made by posed 3d models run through a cellshade/posterise filter.

Does anyone know any more about this?

Depends on the artists. They're given a lot of leeway on how they create their work, and so long as deadlines are met and the quality is good it's alright. Some artists I know use 3D programs to create reference models, but what you receive at the comic book store will more often than not be drawn with a stylus pad in something like Photoshop or Manga 5. You can usually tell how much computer work is done just by looking at the artwork. There's a certain depth perception that can be achieved with 3D imaging impossible with 2D drawing. An example if you can find them would be X-23 Vol. 3 No. 10, which I'm fairly sure was made with 3D imaging, then colored as opposed to X-23 Vol. 3 No. 4, which is more traditional.

Well it appears not to be the first time then.

But also this is fairly special, if only related via the 3d models part.

https://graphicpolicy.com/2016/04/28/is-that-tau-in-venom-space-knight-paging-gw-lawyers/

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/08/24/ironheart-is-already-a-porn-parody-of-iron-man/



world gets stranger by the day.

Personally- this ruins the point of Iron Man as a character.

Tony Stark was a war-profiteer billionaire playboy ladies man who preferred a party to actually helping anyone, then when he was captured (Afghanistan or Vietnam, depending on if you count Extremis as canon) he realised that life was too short to be propagating war, so he decided to turn the battlesuit he was demonstrating in 'Nam into a superhero costume.

Remove billionaire white man, I hate to say it, you remove Iron Man. Add the girl as an extra character, sure, make it like Scarlet Spider, or Miles Morales, so they complement the actual source material, rather than replace it entirely.

I don't think any of the original wars/similar are in continuity anymore.

IIRC both Ben (Thing) Grimm and Reed Richards are now in fact Gulf war vets -- even that might well now be "unidentified conflict"

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fllkAKKsORgC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=reed+richards+ben+grimm+gulf+war&source=bl&ots=Ag4qj_Ed7_&sig=1dsEYr8Pla5tnSgoqaaoY8_SfFg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiG1JmPj9rOAhUsB8AKHcTJCmsQ6AEIQTAG#v=onepage&q=reed%20richards%20ben%20grimm%20gulf%20war&f=false

IIRC the Punisher is no longer a Vietnam veteran either.

So, as I understand it, it's ended up being much ado about nothing. She's effectively just a new character, "Iron Heart."

Meanwhile, the actual new Iron Man is none other than...

DOOM.

 reds8n wrote:

IIRC the Punisher is no longer a Vietnam veteran either.

I had not heard this. All during Garth Ennis' run, it was very clear the Big Pun was a 'Nam veteran. It makes him, Captain America, and Dr Strange the only three characters in Marvel comics who aren't affected by the sliding time-scale that has everyone else's backstory happening "just a few years ago".

Isn't Magneto always a holocaust survivor too?

 Compel wrote:
So, as I understand it, it's ended up being much ado about nothing. She's effectively just a new character, "Iron Heart."

Meanwhile, the actual new Iron Man is none other than...

DOOM.

Now that is something I can get behind!

 Compel wrote:
Isn't Magneto always a holocaust survivor too?

Oh yeah, how did I forget him? So that's four characters who are tied to specific periods/eras.

I think the whole business off gender/raceswapping characters is silly.

However, there is only one Wolverine; a short, hairy Canuck with a temper (and is also mostly unaffected by Marvel's sliding timescale).

A female Wolverine however, is scary as f*ck!
...

Wolverine with PMS - the Hulk would, by comparison, be slightly miffed at worst ...

 Compel wrote:
So, as I understand it, it's ended up being much ado about nothing. She's effectively just a new character, "Iron Heart."

Meanwhile, the actual new Iron Man is none other than...

DOOM.

Doom's suit is honestly pretty goddamn badass.

Bran Dawri wrote:
I think the whole business off gender/raceswapping characters is silly.

However, there is only one Wolverine; a short, hairy Canuck with a temper (and is also mostly unaffected by Marvel's sliding timescale).

A female Wolverine however, is scary as f*ck!
...

Wolverine with PMS - the Hulk would, by comparison, be slightly miffed at worst ...

....you mean, X-23? She's literally a clone of Wolverine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-23


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 Laughing Man wrote:

 Compel wrote:
So, as I understand it, it's ended up being much ado about nothing. She's effectively just a new character, "Iron Heart."

Meanwhile, the actual new Iron Man is none other than...

DOOM.

Doom's suit is honestly pretty goddamn badass.

Spoiler:

Is it? That's just War Machine with a cloak on.

 jreilly89 wrote:
....you mean, X-23? She's literally a clone of Wolverine.

Kind of. Even the article mentions that they couldn't make a full on clone because they lacked DNA that wasn't damaged. If it X-23 were a full on clone she would be a he, shorter, hirsute, have three claws on her hands instead of two, and such.

 Ahtman wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
....you mean, X-23? She's literally a clone of Wolverine.

Kind of. Even the article mentions that they couldn't make a full on clone because they lacked DNA that wasn't damaged. If it X-23 were a full on clone she would be a he, shorter, hirsute, have three claws on her hands instead of two, and such.

Okay, she's still basically a female Wolverine. Also, Lady Deathstrike? Basically a female Wolverine too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Deathstrike

squidhills wrote:

 reds8n wrote:

IIRC the Punisher is no longer a Vietnam veteran either.

I had not heard this. All during Garth Ennis' run, it was very clear the Big Pun was a 'Nam veteran. It makes him, Captain America, and Dr Strange the only three characters in Marvel comics who aren't affected by the sliding time-scale that has everyone else's backstory happening "just a few years ago".

Nick Fury was a WWII Veteran, was he not?

SNAAAAKE wrote:

Nick Fury was a WWII Veteran, was he not?

I believe he was, yes (Nick Fury and the Howling Commandos). But at some point (I think it was in the mid-late 70s), our current Nick Fury became merged into the sliding timescale. A few years back, Garth Ennis portrayed him as a veteran of CIA operations in Vietnam (so not a *military* veteran, but still someone involved with military conflicts). While some WWII veterans could (and did) serve in Vietnam (mostly higher-ranking officers) it is unlikely that Fury could have been a WWII veteran and be able to kung-fu chop bad guys in the current MCU timeline, given that the only reason Cap can do it is he spent 30+ years frozen in a block of ice. And that whole super-soldier serum business. Also, I am of course referring to the classic, Hasslehoff version of Fury here... the newer, Sam Jackson version has been implied to have cut his teeth in the first Desert Storm and hasn't been around long enough for the sliding timescale to be an issue for him.

So, is everyone who was horrified at the thought of Riri as Iron Man okay with

DOOM

taking up the mantle? Just out of curiosity.

For however long it lasts, anyway.

At the very least, this sets Peter Parker up with something to tease Tony about! "At least I was dead when a megalomaniac was running around in my costume trying to be a good guy."

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had that thought cross their mind, Spinner...

I'm 100% OK with it - in fact, I love it!

As you note, it probably won't last long, but I love what Marvel's been doing with Doom leading up to, into and after SECRET WARS.

Doom's "I'm a good guy now!" routine in Invincible Iron Man has been pretty good. Will be interested to see where they go with it.