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Subject: Badab War 2: Into the Maelstrom - The Feast Eternal Chaos Warband
@Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll, thanks! And I certainly hope so. I'm even thinking of adding a few wee ghost-y parts on the base, just to make the whole thing tie together.
@youwashock, thanks, and it's good to be back (or at least it was then and it is again now. Maybe not so much for the giant hole between these updates ). They're amazing, but daunting when the largest model you've done before them are bike-sized (ignoring the Great Hunger, who is nearly as tall as a Knight himself!). Regarding the metal, for some reason my Leadbelcher spray seems to hate washes and nearly needs to have a thin hydrophobic layer scrubbed off when I'm adding the Agrax. No idea if it's just this one can that does it, but it's certainly annoying.
@Don Qui Hotep, I'm honestly as happy reading about you looking at what I'm writing as I am you looking at what I'm building and painting. Hopefully I can actually keep up with any expectations
@tinfoil, thanks! Hopefully it actually ends up as good as it's promising to be!
2 updates in 1 month? I really must be flying! Ok, yeah, I'm still not quite as back as I had hoped. However, I am (real life willing) planning to change things around something serious. I've set myself the task to try to update this plog at least once a week, which gives me a nice deadline that I so sorely need. I think one of the main reasons I fell off the wagon so hard is that this whole pandemic thing that's happening removed the original deadline, and since we've yet to set a new one I don't feel the pressure to paint. Hopefully by setting my own, repeating one I should be able to get more done in a shorter time. Expect a new post every Friday, and if I fail to I give you every right to rip me a new one . And now, onto the actually important stuff!
I was originally planning to start the legs themselves next, but then I realised that I've sort of been going about this Knight the wrong way round. I really should have started with the feet, as that would have meant each part could sit on top of the last. Well, here's a start to fixing that, with the feet now done!
You can somewhat see the effect I was mentioning before about the ghost-y-ness taking precedence over the not-ghost-y parts. I'l fully admit that my hesitation to go in full and hard with any effects has probably hampered the paint job a bit and it would probably work a load better had a lot more of the foot been ghost-y, but I suppose that's just what it is.
Feel free to leave your comments, feedback, criticism etc.
The Moon, an eye upon the world, looked down at the mountains below. In an opening the tall grass, like a soft fabric of the most brilliant chartreuse draped over the undulating landscape, turned as the wind flowed through it. There a fire lay smouldering, a gentle breeze wafting at the smoke which swirled in patterns of unknown meaning. Huddled around the warmth and light, like man had done in ages past, stood squat huts of wood and dirt. The natural silence of the world stood guard over the village, telling of safety. Further up from the huts was a building hewn from stone. The grey rock glittered in the firelight from the small natural deposits of quartz sowed throughout. In the highest room of the tallest building slept a husband and wife, Lord and Lady of lands of Avavale below. Alainc woke with a start, a terrible dream rousing him from his bed. He walked to the curtain, gently pulled it open, and stared out to the distance, thinking of what had happened.
@youwashock, very clever Hopefully it won't be taking that long though. This army's got to be finished at some point, right? Right?!
@gobert, thanks! The paint I'm using is quite old (Scorpion Green for the light green and Snot Green for the filigree) and they don't seem to be too happy always going on consistently, but we can just pretend that's intentional
@Don Qui Hotep, thanks! The handsome pair of feet will still be waiting for their legs a while longer though, as I might have gotten distracted...
Realistically the next step should have been to do the legs of the Knight. I mean, it's just a case of painting the cables, giving the whole thing a wash, and then highlights and going back over the ghost-y parts. But it's also a large amount of that leadbelcher spray that I was complaining about the other day ("other day", not "other month". I know, I'm as amazed as you are), so I may have decided to procrastinate that by painting something else instead Do anyof you remember from a good while ago when I first started this plog I made a group of 5 terminators and only finished painting 3 of them? Well the others were calling to me the other day to do their skin, a nice change from all the green and metal. And how could I say no to such glorious flobby fatness? I must say, skin is really one of my favourite things to paint
Terminator 4 WIP Front
Terminator 4 WIP Back
I'll be the first to say that the paint job is far from perfect. There are so many small hairs and things that found their way into the paint, and the paint itself is already not perfectly smooth. However, from a bit of a distance (a bit closer than tabletop but a bit further than under a microscope), I actually really like how he looks. That big bit of leather strap really does a lot to break up the skin and make it nicer to look at overall in my opinion. Now all that's left is the armour. And the weapons. And the Icon. And the base. Well, we'll get there eventually and maybe the Knight will be my distraction from this guy
As always, I love to hear your feedback and whatever else you have to say.
‘The cur!’, Yueiles roared, throwing the letter to the ground and knocking over his goblet. The wine seeped through the gaps in the cobbled floor of the main hall like the first spill of blood on the battlefield. ‘Does he really think that I’ll believe this damnable lie of bandits?’
Yueiles Evarawd was a short and portly man, but that never stopped him from giving in to his legendary bouts of anger. People claimed that the most sturdy rooms would shake when he reached his full and today these claims were put to the test.
A tall woman in layers of robes, Yueiles newly instated chief advisor, took a step forward, ‘My Lor-’
‘I know it was his dogs that did this! He’s had his eyes on that village from the day his conceited father told him about it. He knows damn well that that village is mine through birth right, but oh no some old scrolls his lousy excuse for a court dug up clearly show that it’s always been in his Dukedom’, Yueiles continued, not caring what the others at the banquet might think, ‘My father, God rest his humble soul, is buried there! And my dearest mother too! How could he be so heartless? So honourless? Ah, but what am I even saying? This is no surprise to me. Is it any surprise to you?’ he pointed at the nearest feast-goer.
‘Err… no m’Lord?’ the poor sod replied hesitantly.
‘Exactly! He’s always been a pediculous rakefire. His father was a rikefire. And his father’s father was one too!’, all round the banquet had come to a standstill, all eyes on their Lord as he let hell break loose. Yueiles stormed out of the room, and with him left the thunder of his rage. For a while it seemed like time stood still before the minstrels picked up their song again and the feast restarted, although quieter than before.
@youwashock, it means someone who's covered in lice and overstays their welcome. Apparently I sure hope the return of the terminators remains not being a problem, as it seems this guy is here for a bit longer.
I was sort of hoping that when I said it would be every week, it would sort of be more sometime within a Friday-to-Friday week (odd I know, but I made the promise on a Friday so we're sticking to it). That would mean last week was grand, but this week I dropped the ball by a day (and arguably then some as I didn't really get that much done, but we're just getting this started so it'll take a while to perfect it). Anyway, day late or not, here's what I've gotten done in the past week.
Terminator 4 WIP front
Terminator 4 WIP back
Yeah, it's not a whole lot, and normally I'd not have posted such little work (it's two colours and a wash), but a) I thought it would be neat to share what the model looks like before the 'filigree', and b) this is a good way to ensure I'm getting more done per week as I feel pressure to present a suitable morsel to you, the almighty reader. Hopefully next week should have something a bit more substantial. At least the filigree and edge highlighting of the trim, but hopefully also either a weapon (or both) done or the flag started (or done).
As always, feedback is welcomed with open arms.
The night’s sky was a deep blue like ocean depths, a ghostly light shining from the Moon above. Stars broke the bare heavens with gentle twinkling. Through tall grasses and fields of wheat crept a small group of men, the oldest past their forties and the youngest no more than sixteen. The village in the distance threw light out like wasted water as the fires of torches burned in the hands of guards and the windows of houses glowed in contempt of the night. But the quarry of the group lay not in the village itself but on its edge, in the dark gravesite. Standing mountainous over the humble gravestones of millers and blacksmiths was the solemn statue of a king in his prime. At his side a smaller statue, that of the late queen knelt in a never spoken prayer.
‘Da, I ain’t too sure of this’, whimpered one of the younger men quietly.
‘Listen son, this man ruin’d our village and our livings with ‘is reckless rule. ‘An ‘is son the King ain’t gonna do much better. He’s had this coming a long while’, the father rested a hand on his son’s shoulder reassuringly, his mouth in a half-smile but anger roared behind his shadowed eyes.
The group made their way closer to the statue, and, upon reaching its foot, started wrapping lengths of rope around the figure’s body. Quietly they brought up the ropes, each man taking up an end and stepping back until it was taut. Through the silence of the night one man whispered, ‘Three, two, one’, and the small crowd pulled as one. The statue shifted slightly on its pedestal, but its weight kept it standing. ‘Three, two, one’, the man murmured once more, each of the group pulling harder than before. The statue seemed to walk to the very edge of the plinth, begging the men to pull one last time and topple it, a request to which the men obliged. ‘Three, two, one!’, this time the call was out loud, the burning hatred for the effigy strengthening the arms of its desecrators. With a loud thump the statue landed in the grass of the cemetery, breaking in two along the waist. A call came from the village nearby, and a troupe of lights bounced their way towards the noise. The group of men vanished back into the forest before the guards finally reached their position.
@youwashock, By the Dark Gods it would be glorious if it was that quick But thanks for the sentiment.
@Don Qui Hotep, you're absolutely right there, you Dakkanauts really are great. The leather is actually super easy. It's just a base of Steel Legion Drab, a wash of Agrax, and a highlight of Steel Legion Drab. The tone of that paint is a really nice light brown without really becoming beige. A lot of the variety comes more from the shape of the leather though. Those wee straps have some relatively deep crevices that really allow the wash to settle and give that sort of blended look.
@gobert, thanks! There's a few others that I know who are also really slow at painting. We should set up our own community sometime... in the very distant future...
@kavika0311, thanks! I can't fully claim the idea as my own, but I had always wanted to see a full sized army using the idea and thought I may as well do it myself since no one else was!
Hey, I'm on time this week! Hopefully this'll be the start of me finally finding my feet with this whole once-a-week thing. I'm not 100% sure it's helping me paint faster, but I do enjoy interacting with you lot a lot more! So, this week I sort of did what I said I was going to, but maybe not in its entirety. I held off on the filigree for now as I sort of want to get that done nearer the finish as I'd rather not accidentally mess it up by painting over it with something else while doing another part of the model (or at least that's the excuse I'm going with). I have however nearly done the flag/icon. All that's left is the Feast Eternal symbol right in the centre of that white shield (front and back), which is something I think I've yet to show you lot but I made right at the start of this whole thing alongside the initial lore. So, albeit in a spoiler box as it's arguably not entirely relevant, here's the Chaper(?) symbol;
The Feast Eternal symbol
To those who actually opened this spoiler, here's a bit of backstory on the symbol itself/why it is the way it is, and why it's not just a bit ol' mouth or something. If you return to the very start of this plog, you might remember that the Feast Eternal was once a Loyalist Chapter known as the Hands of Penitence. They were an Imperial Fist successor that took that whole paint glove thing and ran with it, contently inflicting paint in various and inventive ways on themselves. Below is the Chapter's original symbol.
The Hands of Penitence Chapter symbol
As you can see, it's basically just the Imperial Fists symbol clutching onto a barbed thing (bramble, rose, wire, who knowns exactly). This should make it quite obvious, especially with the whole blood and everything, what exactly the Chapter was like.
However, when the Chapter fell to Slaanesh it was seen as them freeing themselves of the burden of clutching the barbs. This is reflected quite literally in their new symbol, where the hand no longer holds the barbs themselves. However, however, serving Slaanesh is simply a new form of punishment, hence why the freed hand is now surrounded by the barbs, trapped. The Marines themselves, in their insanity, might not notice the relevance themselves though, with there possibly being even more meanings behind the symbol that not even you or I are privy to.
I'll finally add one real world note about this symbol though. I come from a place that uses part of this symbol (specifically the hand itself) as part of its flag. I won't say exactly where I'm from, because internet, although I'm sure it's more than easy to figure it out. However, the use of the hand is in no way meant as a political gesture or anything. I just needed an open hand, and I thought that particular one was pretty much aesthetically perfect for what I needed.
So now with that all out of the way, onto the model itself.
Terminator 4 WIP front
Terminator 4 WIP back
That's pretty much it for today. Hopefully next week I'll have one of the weapons done (I'm thinking mace, but who knows what future me will feel like painting). Before I go though, do any of you know any good camera apps for a OnePlus 7? I'm still not happy with how the photos I take are coming out with this phone and I'd love to hear what you lot think I should be using instead.
‘M’Lord’, the old woman stood before him, ragged in face as she was in clothes, ‘you’ve gots to help us! I knows what I saw with me own two eyes, bad as they are.’
Rumours had been running wild of a band of knights from the lands of Yueiles Evarawd ransacking villages, murdering peasants, and other crimes so heinous that Alainc dare not repeat them even in his own mind. He’d been hesitant to believe them at first, trusting in the honour of his rival that it would not come to this. But before him sat the truth of it otherwise. The old woman cried as she told her tale of horror.
Nice work on Tubbs’ banner, a rally neat backstory on the warband/chapter symbol and all its double meanings. It’s really cool that you designed it yourself. Somehow though I’m worried that the red on white could be an extra colour too far aesthetically? Maybe black might take some of the political connotations away as well as tie in with the rest of the model? Or maybe stylised in the filigree you’ve been using? Keep the awesome fatties coming!
Goberts Gubbins - A Random Oldhammer P&M Blog, now with added Blackstone Fortress
Subject: Re:Badab War 2: Into the Maelstrom - The Feast Eternal Chaos Warband
@Not Online!!!, thanks! And welcome to the thread (I think, I'm not quite certain how you found it if you're not online )
@youwashock, thanks! As it was one of the pieces done right at the start it sticks to a lot of the original lore for this army that has gradually evolved through me coming up with new ideas and (accidentally) forgetting old ones. However I still feel it fits with the army overall as the basics haven't changed too much.
@gobert, thanks! You make sense with the worry about the expansion of the palette, so I had a play about on some photo editing software to try out the black rather than the red. I also asked a few friends their opinion and it was somewhat mixed. However, I felt the biggest thing at play at the moment was the model not actually being done, so I've held off on doing the banner until the model is complete (which it nearly is now). When everything else is done I'll be sure to post a few pics to get your lots opinion on it. Personally I don't think red is too extreme as there's a lot of red in the army already, albeit in blood, grebbily bits, fire, and plasma. However better safe than sorry
Week two of me maintaining the routine on time (I think. It's only week two isn't it? By the Dark Gods have I lost track of time)! As I said to gobert, I've left off on doing the banner for now as I want the model to be in a more finished state before I tackle it. Same sort of goes for the filigree, although it might be more the case that I just want to do all the freehand at once. But with the stuff I haven't done out of the way, lets have a look at what I have done! And that's both the maul and the twin-bolter. There's nothing really that massive to say about them as it's basically just 3 colours on each (4 if you count the straps), so rather than try to come up with some pointless jargon it's probably a better idea for me to just show yous the pictures.
Terminator 4 WIP front
Terminator 4 WIP back
You might also note that I added the small amount of blood trickling from his mouth. Something that I forgot about so much that I actually forgot that I had even done it during the write up above until I actually went to get the pictures for this post
Anyway, I'd love to hear what yous think and your feelings on gobert's suggestion for the colour change to the icon.
The two Lords sat at the fore of their two armies, equal in fury as they were in number. Tension, like a filled net, was strung across the land. Had it not been for the clarity of advisors, the soil would have drunk blood and the grass grown red. Abuse had been hurled like trebucheted boulders through letters. Tales of espionage and mindless killing had worked their way through the lands. Calls of war had been made in the courts. Eventually the two Kingdoms had tentatively agreed on an honour duel, mortal combat between the two greatest fighters each Lord had to offer. The winner would lay their final claim to the village and the loser would have to maintain their honour in acceptance. But no longer was this a story of one village. The anger each Lord felt towards the other had evolved, mutated into something deeper and so much darker. What had been seen as a single aggression had blossomed into a blood feud that would either be settled this day or take the lives of these men’s lineage for ages to come. A small arena had been set up in the centre of the village, measures of rope strung up on posts hastily hammered into the ground. The sky was clear as the two warriors entered. The light smell of ozone filled the air.
Nicely done on the bolter and mace, though. I really like the logo and the backstory behind it - so much great lore is going into your force! I think if you used red and black together it wouldn't look like too much of a new addition to the palette - a black hand with a red vine, or visa versa.
@Don Qui Hotep, thanks! As for the logo colour, you'll see I took your idea to mind, although I'm still not fully decided.
@youwashock, I generally use Mephiston Red for my reds, which is a bit more maroon than burgundy. However, it's still decently dark and tends to work ok without being too high a contrast with anything else I use it with.
Bar the base and one other obvious thing that's been taking up this thread the last few posts, the model is done! I was able to get the loin cloth and skulls hanging off his belt done in no time, and the swirly stuff (honestly don't think filigree is the right term at this point, but i don't really know what else you'd call it) on the armour! Quite pleased with how hes turned out and it's nice to have another model (basically) done. Also, quick shout out to one of my friends who asked if he'd be mentioned, as a few of us have started online painting sessions to help us all get more done.
Terminator 4 WIP front
Terminator 4 WIP back
Now for the big final thing, what colours to use for the banner. I edited together a picture with the design for the icon I had, but varied up the colours as suggested by you lot. So the question is, what colour do you think looks best?
I'd obviously love to hear what you guys think as its been super helpful to make this army the best it could be.
The two stags circled each other, eyes bound to their rival. The crests upon their heads bloody from the recently shed velvet. They postured to show their strength and sought out the other’s weaknesses. Their heads dipped and they locked antlers with a clatter of bones. Powerful necks pushed and pulled while cloven feet tore up the grass below. Each struggled against the opposing force, two elementals of nature competing for the same prize with the same skill. They fought beyond their strength for reasons beyond their knowing. Like dancers they spun, turning around before unlocking and locking again. Each move done with precision and intent but countered just as effectively as it was completed. Time ran on ahead, making great bounds through the day. Gradually they wore each other down, and as the daylight turned to dusk, it seemed like finally there would be an answer to their rivalry.
Excellent job, he's looking fatty fierce. I will vote for 3 as well; it works both at a distance and up close (at least as I compare the thumbnail to the high-res images), and, I don't know what this reveals about my psyche, red thorns just look that much pointier!
Concur, 3 or 4. 4 may be my preference, but that's I think just because the red hand is more recognizable. 3 is definitely more balanced; 4 makes the banner really stand out. That could be something to go for though: a banner should be a focus point of an army!
Rather than reply to you all individually as I normally would, I thought it might be better to reply to you all at once to save me repeating myself. basically, I've now finished the the terminator, and I went with... (drumroll please)... number 4! So, it was maybe not the popular choice, but hear me out. I personally really liked option 3, and if this model had been on its own I would have certain chosen it (and nearly did). However, I held the model up near the rest of the army (which is currently sitting in my display case) and the abundance of red already there from the assorted blood-things sort of sealed the deal. As 416_SpaceWolves and Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll said, I think the small amount of red really makes this model pop out just that wee bit more, which you sort of want for a standard (at least I think you do, right?). Hopefully you all won't flay me alive for this choice But with that, lets get on to the miniature itself!
Terminator 4 front
Terminator 4 back
You'll probably also note the base that I bashed together in about 2 days (which is quick for me, I'm sure you'll agree). Not much to say on that bar it's basically more of the same.
I'd love to hear what you lot think about the final choice. The red is definitely milder than the photo edit might of shown off, so hopefully that should appease any of you set on 3.
The sword slid free, and with it a mountain of guts poured from the freshly made wound. The decision was made, and honour had been maintained. Now the men, so ready for a battle, would return to their homes and families. But boiled blood does not so easily condensate. Yueiles stared at the dropped body of his champion in desperate anger, his face a blank mask hiding the rage below. He moved up the man who had fallen in his name, and as Lord Alainc walked up to him to seal the agreement, his eyes fell to the misericorde his champion has stowed at his waist. A faint whisper passed into the mind of Yueiles, his father, his mother, his friends of ages past. All spoke with one voice, and all told him to reach for the knife. Yueiles stood, his hand outstretched to shake that of man who had plagued him for years even before the desecration of the grave.
“My condolences on the fight. Your man put up a good effort, but honour has spoken here today”, Alainc declared in gentle terms, the condescending turns of phrase sharpened to the finest point over a lifetime in the courts.
As Yueiles took the hand, he grabbed tightly and pulled Alainc into him. His resent was barely hidden under layers of his own learning, “You have won this day, but I will never let go of the indignity you have shown my family”.
Yueiles let go and took a step back, turning to return to his camp. But as he did, the distinctive clatter of metal on stone resonated through the air, seeming louder than the clashing of swords that had just taken place. Yueiles looked down in shock, “You snake! You would break the honour of this duel, even though you’d won!”.
Alainc took a step back and looked at the dagger on the ground, “Me? You dare suggest I could stoop to your level? You detestable man. To think I could have trusted you here when you so obviously have not an ounce of honour in your rotten heart!”
Hackles rose as the air turned stale with the taste of blood yet to be spilt. Without so much as a though, both armies moved like mighty beasts towards each other.
Hey, it's yer army, and I think the banner looks awesome as is. The lines that separate the fingers and the crest of the thumb are a bit wider than in the thumbnails, which really works in its favor. Excellent job! A really cool addition to your force, love to see the other fatties rally around.