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 LunarSol wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
The biggest crime is that one of the coolest models in the history of miniature gaming doesn't see the table enough because of these damn rules!!!

And yes, maybe T.A.G.s generating 2 orders would be a good fix - combined with the aforementioned toning down of hacking, of course!


The currently do generate 2 orders. Do you mean 3?


I did - sorry!

I should have just said "an extra order", I guess...

I am genuinely looking forward to the rules revisions that are coming soon - I do not know why, but I am optimistic that they'll get us a better game.
   
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N3 was a better game, ruleset-wise, than N2 when it was just the BRB and one excluded all the Human Sphere and Paradiso stuff. The scenarios needed to be updated to N3, and CB really dropped the ball on that. I hope we see updated scenarios to go with the updated ruleset. Given Bostria's statement that Code One and N4 are not just revisions/updates but something more, this may happen. or not.

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Lol. Double post. Sort of.

New releases, but first, a preview of the O-12 bots




And the releases:





Not bad. Nothing spectacular.

 
   
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Right behind you.

In case anyone's curious, the Nox set is:
Sniper Rifle, Hacker, HMG, and...

SpecOps

Rarely these days will I give credit to CB for doing something great, but this is just ace.
   
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Not bad? Those Kaplans look awesome!

   
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Gosport, UK

The Kaplans look pretty sweet painted up. The renders were okay but the paint helps a lot here. I like the Zhencha too.
   
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Oakland, CA

The Kaplans are outstanding!

The rest is fine.
   
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Great set of releases, Kaplans and Nox are really nice and the spec-ops is bad ass.
   
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KTS are lovely enough that I'll give them a pass on the combat heels.

   
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UK

Really like the look of the copperbots
   
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RE: Defiance and the soon to be opening Pledge Manager?


There will be an "all in" pledge level.

However...

The price for this ALL-IN will be 745€.


Yikes.

I mean, I probably could've done the math on it before now, but still, that's a bit of a stinger.

I'll definitely be in the 'pick and choose' category.

And tokens/stand-ins will work well enough for me for...a lot of things, apparently!

EDIT:

To be fair, I only need (want?) some of the 'Reinforcement Packs' anyway!

Maybe one of the upgraded pledges to get the expansions and a few packs will be just fine after all...

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What are you trying to talk yourself into, Alpharius? Hmmm? US$820 is a big all in.

I'll stick with my collector level pledge, but if I can also get that Fat Yuan Yuan and/or Kusanagi, I probably will.

I wonder what the hold up really is with the Pledge Manager? What are they trying to do with it that is causing delays?

 
   
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were they rolling their own? That's the only thing I can think of outside of the provider they choose may not have the best servers so performance may be meh. It's not like they've got any really complicated selections, they're pretty part the course.
   
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They're using their own, I guess to max out profits. Might not have been such a good idea, in retrospect
   
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 Red Harvest wrote:
What are you trying to talk yourself into, Alpharius? Hmmm? US$820 is a big all in.

I'll stick with my collector level pledge, but if I can also get that Fat Yuan Yuan and/or Kusanagi, I probably will.



More like trying to talk myself out of stuff!

I think I'll end up with all the game content stuff and a reinforcement pack or two - if they math out to being a 'good deal' vs. just buying what I want in blisters/boxes...


 Red Harvest wrote:

I wonder what the hold up really is with the Pledge Manager? What are they trying to do with it that is causing delays?


Yeah, really looks to be 'do it themselves' to save having to pay any of the established ones any fees.

It'll probably work out just fine for them in the long run - delays now up front? Probably the least aggravating of all the usual "Kickstarter Delays".
   
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Agreed

Rolling their own Pledge Manager only makes sense if they plan to have more kickstarters. The time and money spent for a one off is wasted unless it is significantly cheaper. With limited resources, the people working on the PM are people not working on other profit generating activities.

 
   
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Given how well this Kickstarter did, and the assorted distribution issues they have - at least in the USA - I do foresee more KS’ from CB moving forward.

   
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 Red Harvest wrote:
Agreed

Rolling their own Pledge Manager only makes sense if they plan to have more kickstarters. The time and money spent for a one off is wasted unless it is significantly cheaper. With limited resources, the people working on the PM are people not working on other profit generating activities.


Yep. Doing that kind of infrastructure isn't cheap. Doing it well is even more. I use to dev full stack as well as websites and such. Now I just dev tools to test them. Way less stress and better hours. If they don't do more KSrs they'll have burned a lot of cash on this.

Though if they're smart they'll open it up to other companies and undercut backerkit. Go the ol' Amazon route of selling access to your internal tools/software to competitors as money is money.

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Well, we know they'll be doing more kickstarters for sure, they just announced a mid-april KS for licensed 8" PVC statues.

https://www.infinitythegame.com/blog/item/782-new-partner-busy-mind-collectibles

There's going to be 3 different statues for the first set, no idea what the other 2 will be, but the 1st is a VERY nice looking Shang-Ji. I love it, hopefully it means new Shan-Ji miniatures in the game soon, because it's always been one of my favorite HI models and this new redesign keeps most of the design details I like intact. I wouldn't be surprised to see this guy in the N4 PanO/YJ starter Operation set, hopefully with a profile update to make them better than in N3 as they're currently not worth the extra 10ish points over a Zhuyong. They can't currently be armed with HMGs, so one new profile at least

No hint of the pricing, hopefully won't be too bad, but similar figures vary GREATLY in price and can be anywhere from $20 to $175+, and this appears to be a new company.



Old Shang-Ji for reference:
Spoiler:

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Given how close the Euro and the Dollar are, some of the Defiance "Reinforcement Packs" are looking to be fairly good deals.

Provided, of course, that CB doesn't kill us with shipping charges...
   
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If they don't have a US hub the prices will be quite expensive. The Spanish Government set's shipping prices that all couriers have to use so there's no competition price wise which protects the government own mail system. Add that international shipping keeps going up and well last year when I ordered from them for the adepticon bundle and ITS box was $40.
   
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I've not looked at the Defiance KS, but doesn't it say on there whether they have a US shipping hub/partner or not?

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The shipping is "customs friendly", so I suspect that they do have a US partner lined up.

They list estimated shipping charges on the KS page:
Corvus Belli wrote: Bear in mind that we do not yet know exactly how much the different unlockable components will weigh and the size of the packaging. The metal’s weight is not a determining element and will not increase the shipping costs.

The prices take into account one request from a customer purchasing one unit of either the Core or Collector’s Pledge. Extra add-on units, or extra copies of the Core or Collector’s Box will increase the shipping costs:

Spain: 12€-15€
European Union: 20€-25€
Rest of Europe: 20€-25€
USA: 25€-30€
Canada: 25€-30€
Australia: 35€-40€
New Zealand: 35€-40€
Asia: 30€-35€
South Africa: 40€-45€
Rest of the World: 40€-45€

Countries with special pricing: Russia, Brazil, Serbia.


Increasing the size of the packaging will be the factor in determining cost, so those reinforcement boxes may well drastically increase shipping, depending on the size of the boxes themselves. One may end up paying to have a whole lot of air shipped from Spain if there is a lot of empty space in the packaging. There usually isn't much empty space in the current boxes, so I doubt this.

I pledged for the Collector level, so it appears that I'll be paying US$25-US$35 for shipping. Not crazy high, if the collector packaging is the size/volume I think it'll be.

That Shang Ji is nice. The minis have needed re-sculpting for quite a while now. If this sculpt is based on any renders that CB has done, it seems a good indication that there will be a new Shang Ji in the Kaldstrom box. And I keep wanting to type it as Kåldstrøm. Pre-orders begin on 9 March or 16 March I'll bet, so previews begin a week earlier... Maybe we'll start seeing them in about 4 weeks.

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That Shang Ji is very nice.
   
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It is a good indication the Shang Ji will make it to N4. At the moment the profile is kind've caught in no man's land and given Carlos' confirmation not all units will make the cut from N3 to N4 I thought the Shang Ji might be one of them.

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 .Mikes. wrote:
It is a good indication the Shang Ji will make it to N4. At the moment the profile is kind've caught in no man's land and given Carlos' confirmation not all units will make the cut from N3 to N4 I thought the Shang Ji might be one of them.


I hope this means that the N4 Shang Ji will have a stronger mechanical identity than basic dude in heavy armor, since Yu Jing has a lot of units that are trying to fill that same role (Shang Ji, Wu Ming, Zuyong, etc.).

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Yep. At the moment it's a not quite so good good Wu Ming. The Zuyong should be the basic HI, the WuMing the all out assault HI, and the Shang Ji.... i dunno, it needs something.

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OK, so it's been confirmed on the official forums that at release Code One will only supoprt vanilla Yu Jing, PanO, O-12 and Combined.

Let the flaming begin.....

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The four factions from the 2 soon to be most recent battle boxes. Support will come for the rest soon enough. Meh.

Koni wisely did NOT tell anyone when to expect the other factions. He also dropped this info the day the Pledge Manager opened too, and the surprises to some of the shipping costs.

Three weeks until we start to see the teasers for Kåldstrøm.

Fortunately for all involved, CB uses Spanish printers, etc, so it is unlikely that Operación:Kåldstrøm will be delayed, unlike some companies releases coming from China.

 
   
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Ya. That doesn't worry me as long as more factions come in. I'd rather have good support for each (ie box that's playable without additional purchases) for code one then a rush to get everything supported day one.
   
 
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