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Rewatched it.

The "the feth he just say?" head tilt from Rhaenys when Daemon mentioned that they have Meleys amongst dragons loyal to Draonstone was pretty funny.

Daemon also made the point of Rhaenys could have ended this war before it began, and Rhaenys had sound logic in why she didn't fry the lot of them last episode.

Still think they could have done more "table setting" with some of the previous events(getting to know Strong before he was murdered, more of the kids being kids before getting wrapped up in generational trauma), but I get that the main focus is on the war to come. That's probably my only complaint about this season. Just high quality entertainment start to finish.

 nels1031 wrote:
Pretty awesome finale. Things are going to be intense right from the onset next season.

Honestly not sure how I feel about Aemond "accidentally" killing Luke, but I guess its a creative decision to add some depth to him, and to add further tragedy to the whole situation.

In Deep Geek had an interesting take. It shows how dragons are more than just dumb beasts, they have their own will which is difficult to control, and these boys are still just boys. Not capable of controlling their dragons yet, but they(mostly Aemond, but Luke to an extent) are meddling with things beyond them. Tying in with Visyerys believed about them being something 'men should never have trifled with'.

Up to episode 8. And realised who old and knackered Viserys reminds me of.



The holy of holies. Anything from NASA?


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That was alright, I guess.

I and real trouble figuring out who was who in each timejump though.

Mighty fine series - all the way through

I may be a bit late, but I've just watched the first episode, that I found promising and pleasant to watch up to...the jousting scene.
Yep, this one, in which the nobles of the kingdom actually kill each other. For fun.
And then HBO pretends to have taken inspiration from the real world
The brother of the king and the son of the hand of the king are participating in a tournament where people actually and actively kill each other and that didn't seem dumb to anyone ? Tournament and jousting were stopped in real life because accidents happened and people died and there we have on screen a kingdom actually destroying itself in a single day
Is the rest of the show as dumb as this or does it get better ?

It's a fantasy show, if you're going to hold it to the level of historical documentary then best move on.

 godardc wrote:
I may be a bit late, but I've just watched the first episode, that I found promising and pleasant to watch up to...the jousting scene.
Yep, this one, in which the nobles of the kingdom actually kill each other. For fun.
And then HBO pretends to have taken inspiration from the real world
The brother of the king and the son of the hand of the king are participating in a tournament where people actually and actively kill each other and that didn't seem dumb to anyone ? Tournament and jousting were stopped in real life because accidents happened and people died and there we have on screen a kingdom actually destroying itself in a single day
Is the rest of the show as dumb as this or does it get better ?

It did strike me as very over the top but the rest of the show is much better IMO

 godardc wrote:
I may be a bit late, but I've just watched the first episode, that I found promising and pleasant to watch up to...the jousting scene.
Yep, this one, in which the nobles of the kingdom actually kill each other. For fun.
And then HBO pretends to have taken inspiration from the real world
The brother of the king and the son of the hand of the king are participating in a tournament where people actually and actively kill each other and that didn't seem dumb to anyone ? Tournament and jousting were stopped in real life because accidents happened and people died and there we have on screen a kingdom actually destroying itself in a single day
Is the rest of the show as dumb as this or does it get better ?

There are explanations for this.

While most Tournies in the real world were not to the death, there were some where killing an opponent was allowed. And in situations where the combat is "till the opponent yields", if the opponent doesn't yield then you kinda have to kill them to end it. And of course, accidents did happen, real or otherwise. But you then can consider the context. Westeros has not had a real war in over 100 years. The nobles of the realm are itching for it, and it is not out of the question for things to get out of hand in a big tournament.

As for the political risks of certain people dying... Daemon isn't going to let anyone tell him he can't do dangerous stuff. He is also somewhat expendable. The king is still producing heirs at this time so its fine. Otto's son is probably in a similar situation. He's the son of the Hand and probably is itching for fighting. He's not going to not participate.

The poltical fallout from not participating in a dangerous tourney is probably greater than the risks of someone dying. At least from the perspective of those involved.

So no, its not as dumb as you might think it. But the rest of the show is quite good so I wouldn't worry.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 godardc wrote:
I may be a bit late, but I've just watched the first episode, that I found promising and pleasant to watch up to...the jousting scene.
Yep, this one, in which the nobles of the kingdom actually kill each other. For fun.
And then HBO pretends to have taken inspiration from the real world
The brother of the king and the son of the hand of the king are participating in a tournament where people actually and actively kill each other and that didn't seem dumb to anyone ? Tournament and jousting were stopped in real life because accidents happened and people died and there we have on screen a kingdom actually destroying itself in a single day
Is the rest of the show as dumb as this or does it get better ?

It did strike me as very over the top but the rest of the show is much better IMO

It was excessive for sure, but I believe that was the point.

1. To show that violence is ready to break out, despite the peace and relative prosperity of the time. I think Rhaenys even comments to that effect.

2. To juxtapose the visuals of the deadly violence against the visuals of the deadly birth calls back to the earlier comment by the queen that the womb is the battlefield for women of this world.

3. It was really the only way to win renown in that era, given that there seems to have been no invasions or rebellions for one to win fame. The more dangerous, the more renown possibly. A second or third son would be pretty motivated to bet his life on the tourney field to win his fortunes.

Maybe but it just reminded me of Jaberwocky and the over the top jousting in it

I've finally gotten around to watching this.
Im about 3/4 through & overall it's alright.

But.... I find that I just don't care about any of the characters.
I'll finish this season.
But assuming there's a season 2, I'll skip it.

ccs wrote:

But assuming there's a season 2, I'll skip it.

Season 2 is confirmed.

I think it starts filming next month, if not already started.