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Hey were going the wrong way!

Yeah, it was bouncing back and forth by that $100 as someone fidgeted with their pledge I guess

 catharsix wrote:

 malfred wrote:
I'll probably buy a kit when it's released.

At this point I'm a bit confused. I thought that the point of Kickstarter was to start small companies, not simply fund one-off projects. Of course, maybe it can be used to to one and/or the other, but what is this one? Is this just to make a bunch of great plastic kits, to perhaps expand later, or is this really starting up the company now? When all the molds for this stuff are made, will Mark be making stuff in the future, available in stores or at his site, or will we have to wait for another Kickstarter, or what?

I should have said if.

I won't fund a kickstarter for models. My money is already tied up
in models I want now. If the kickstarter leads to a wider release, great.

If not, oh well.

$377 to go till we hit 100k.

And it's GOOD! 100k baby! Can we make the assault troopers that I'm so drooling over? Will Iron Core conquer the earth? Find out sunday sunday sundaaaaay!

Woot woot! We made it, easily getting 15mm mortis and weapons now, should make the heavies too, at least the first.

Great!!! And now please please 5K more, i want that command squad!!! OK and all the other goodies too!!

Kicktracker is projecting that we'll be just shy of the 130k marker... unless a big miracle happens it seems my dream of $22 for 10 sexy termies won't happen. Ah well. These I will be bloody well pleased to buy retail.

I can't quite understand the KS page - it's not clear. Are the 15mm weapons and the Heavy Trooper Support at $11 for 1/$19 for 2 $25 for 3/+$8 for each box past 3

Or is it the Heavy Trooper Support and Assault?

Maybe not. The projection cone is from $120K and $150K. Average that and you're looking at $135K.

Why not help yourself out and add some to your pledge anyway.

Scipio, the 15mm arms are $10 + postage, buy 3 get 1 free. So the $11 etc are for the heavy trooper 5 man sets.

 Conrad Turner wrote:
Maybe not. The projection cone is from $120K and $150K. Average that and you're looking at $135K.

Why not help yourself out and add some to your pledge anyway.

Scipio, the 15mm arms are $10 + postage, buy 3 get 1 free. So the $11 etc are for the heavy trooper 5 man sets.

The extra money for my assault troopers will be on my pledge till the 0 hour. Should we fail. If we succeed it shall remain.

$100K!

You little ripper...long range shooty goodness by 2 for my Crusader!!!

Good on you, Mark!!!

 Padre wrote:
$100K!

You little ripper...long range shooty goodness by 2 for my Crusader!!!

Good on you, Mark!!!

Almost enuff dakka right Padre? Now if only we could stick a third one on there...

 Conrad Turner wrote:
Maybe not. The projection cone is from $120K and $150K. Average that and you're looking at $135K.

Why not help yourself out and add some to your pledge anyway.

Scipio, the 15mm arms are $10 + postage, buy 3 get 1 free. So the $11 etc are for the heavy trooper 5 man sets.

No - check out the page right under



the $11 prices are listed twice. Above and below the Heavy Trooper Support. I'm trying to figure out exactly what is offered at that price. Besides the obvious - of the HTS.

Or if it being up there twice is a typo.

Yes, the $11 are for the 5 man heavy trooper SETS.

The Heavy trooper support unlocked at $120K

and

Heavy trooper assault. unlocked at $130K.

check it out in the online calculator.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

 Padre wrote:
$100K!

You little ripper...long range shooty goodness by 2 for my Crusader!!!

Good on you, Mark!!!

Almost enuff dakka right Padre? Now if only we could stick a third one on there...

Yep, almost enough... wonder how it would look with a "top mount" like a Reaver...

(mutters to self insanely, "Guns, yes guns, my precious.....")

Scipio- I have the answer, it's because the Heavy Trooper Assault and Support 5-man boxes cost the same (so the second entry is actually for the Assault boxes, which are next).

Here's a cheat sheet I converted from someone's comment on the Kickstarter page

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Pledge Cheat Sheet

Full-size Leviathan Crusader/Mortis
Leviathan - $89 per or - $165 (2) - $240 (3)- $300 for 4
Weapons - $25 per or - $75 for 4

4.5" Size Leviathan Crusader/Mortis
Leviathan - $44 per or - $79 (2) - $105 (3)
Weapons - $10 per or - $30 for 4

Troopers
Troopers (box of 20) - $39 per or - $69 for 2 - $88 for 3
Trooper Support Weapons (box of 9 with 3 heavy guns) - $33 per or - $60 for 2 - $79 for 3
Trooper Command (box of 10) - $30 per or - $57 for 2 - $75 for 3
Accessory Pack - $10 (1 comes free with each box of 20 Troopers)

Heavy Troopers
Heavy Assault Troopers (box of 5) - $11 per or - $19 for 2 - $25 for 3
Heavy Support Troopers (box of 5) - $11 per or - $19 for 2 - $25 for 3
Heavy Core Troopers (box of 20) - $42 per or - $75 for 2 - $99 for 3

Shadokesh
Feral with handler (2 figures) - $4 per, maximum of 5 (one comes free with any pledge of $20 or more)

Vehicles
APC - Unknown

Quantity Discount Note: Further models on top of the highest quantity discount cost the same unit price (i.e. a 5th full-size Leviathan would be $75)
Shipping Note: Stage 1 items ship free in the US. However, to have Stage 2 and Stage 3 items shipped separately, there is a $7.00 fee for each stage.

International shipping should be calculated by entering everything you want in the online calculator, using the "International" tab at the top:
http://www.dreamforge-games.com/kickstartshipping/DFCalc.htm

Note, you no longer need to download this... it's pretty sweet!

Hmm...$152 for a 28mm Mortis with two Maulers. Might have to wait and go for the 15mm version

@charax. Depends on what your wanting to use it as. If you wanting a Titan then go for the 28mm....you won't be disappointed.
If your wanting a or daemon engine stand in then 15mm, still won't be disappointed.

But if you want some real fun get both

Female Variant:

WIP - Dreamforge Kriegsmarine body with Statuesque Minis Female Resistance Fighter Head - will be used as New DAK Bodyguard Trooper
The Water Bottle and Cloth are from a 1/48 Tamiya German Infantry Plastic set.

Works for me.
To be honest I would love to see the Kriegsmarine upper bodies and backpacks as a Stretchgoal, since I really do not like the Heavy Troopers so much.
They look too much like Fantasy to me and are IMO not fitting to the "normal" troopers. The weird war feeling is definitely gone.

AAN wrote:
Female Variant:

The shoulders need to be narrower, but apart from that, it's a good fit.

The "leggy" metals lend themselves decently well to a female mini. The tweaked legs (slightly thicker/shorter) of the plastic ones might not do as well, though.

Thanks for the pic

AAN wrote:

To be honest I would love to see the Kriegsmarine upper bodies and backpacks as a Stretchgoal, since I really do not like the Heavy Troopers so much.
They look too much like Fantasy to me and are IMO not fitting to the "normal" troopers. The weird war feeling is definitely gone.

Was Dream Forge ever about "Weird War 2"?

I mean the Mortis was their first set no? That would seem to indicate sci fi fantasy

I say it looks perfect! There would be no doubt in my mind that it is a female inside the armour instead of just a quick head swap. I do agree that the shoulders look a little large but that is in comparison to the helmet and not a bare head, be it male or female.

And yay for $100k!

 kenshin620 wrote:

AAN wrote:

To be honest I would love to see the Kriegsmarine upper bodies and backpacks as a Stretchgoal, since I really do not like the Heavy Troopers so much.
They look too much like Fantasy to me and are IMO not fitting to the "normal" troopers. The weird war feeling is definitely gone.

Was Dream Forge ever about "Weird War 2"?

I mean the Mortis was their first set no? That would seem to indicate sci fi fantasy

Short version:
Less Weird War 2, and more Weird War 1. The Eisenkern origin is that they're WWI Germans in SPPPAAACCCEEEE! (couldn't resist)
You can read the Iron Core fluff here: http://www.dreamforge-games.com/game.html

Interesting, I never noticed it before but as I was going to up my pledge for more than the listed amount, I saw that the the 'everything beyond the listed quantities' is listed at the median price. Why is that?

Example: heavy trooper 5 man units
1 - $11
2 - $19 (difference of $8)
3 - $25 (difference of $6)
4 - $33 (difference of $8)

The same could be said for any of the other items. Wouldn't a 5th Crusader be $60 instead of $75 if there was no further price break?

I'm not a salesman (anymore), but doesn't this seem really weird to anyone else that it would go up? In bulk usually means lower prices.

Charax wrote:
Hmm...$152 for a 28mm Mortis with two Maulers. Might have to wait and go for the 15mm version

That seems high, you know that he comes with one mauler right?

 AlexHolker wrote:

AAN wrote:
Female Variant:

The shoulders need to be narrower, but apart from that, it's a good fit.

Honestly, not for me. I can easily see a big sporty woman in that huge armour, the pads alone are adding a lot to the mini.
(BTW - I was considering to simply not adding the should pads, but it just did not looked right to me.)

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 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 kenshin620 wrote:

AAN wrote:

To be honest I would love to see the Kriegsmarine upper bodies and backpacks as a Stretchgoal, since I really do not like the Heavy Troopers so much.
They look too much like Fantasy to me and are IMO not fitting to the "normal" troopers. The weird war feeling is definitely gone.

Was Dream Forge ever about "Weird War 2"?
I mean the Mortis was their first set no? That would seem to indicate sci fi fantasy

Short version:
Less Weird War 2, and more Weird War 1. The Eisenkern origin is that they're WWI Germans in SPPPAAACCCEEEE! (couldn't resist)
You can read the Iron Core fluff here: http://www.dreamforge-games.com/game.html

According to the fluff yes, but the whole mini design is IMO firmly based on WW II German troops.
And I agree completely, Dreamforge is not weird WW II - more Grey Knight superdreadnought, titan stuff.
And following that line the heavy troper fit in...

But the "Eisenkern" and "Kriegsmarine" troops are another story...
I had a hard time to explain the customs offer here in Germany that Eisenkern Sturmtruppen are not some Nazi devotional stuff!

Stumped up for a 15mm crusader, my kickstarter budget has been dangerously depleted already by sedition wars and relic knights.

Kaiohx- It's not done as median price, but the same price-per-unit that the best discount offers. I.e. 3 for 25 = $8 apiece. This is how Mark explained it