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DreamForge Kickstart is now live



Head their now! -> Dream Forge - Crusader Plastic Model - KickStarter
http://dreamforge-games.com/kickstart






Several months ago, I started searching for a way to improve the quality, lower the price and bump the production level to meet my customers’ expectations. I am happy to say that I have met and exceeded these goals. The Leviathan Crusader has made it to the pre-production phase (mold draft and parting line establishment for metal tooling) and is ready to become a plastic injected model kit. Not Resin, not Restic, not some soft plastic hybrid, but injected high impact styrene. The same kind of model kit you will find in any hobby store.

One of our largest stumbling blocks has been keeping up with customer demand for our resin kits. We have found it increasingly difficult to produce our large kits in a quality, quantity and price point to meet my high standards. The constant search for a suitable service provider and manufacturing method for our resin kits has stifled design and production, taking me away from the important work of product design and game development.

On August 16th; the first day of Gencon, we will open up our Kickstarter campaign to help fund this switch from resin and metal miniatures and models to an all plastic line.

You can read more and possibly win a Leviathan Crusader kit by liking our Facebook page and leaving a comment so we can find you again later.

You can read the full story here:
http://dreamforge-games.blogspot.com/

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Plastic dreamforge?

Ooooh goody!

Come on, this can't be true... a kickstarter I might contribute to!

Please update your title with 'Dreamforge' so people know what the thread is about...








Oh ya! Almost forgot! Effin Awesome! Congrats!

So like real plastic model kits, or plasticy/resiny stuff?

Necros wrote:So like real plastic model kits, or plasticy/resiny stuff?

Plastic, not resin, not restic, not soft plastic hybrid.... PLASTIC! injected styrene PLASTIC

Any idea on the final price? Or what the contribution level of the kickstarter is to actually get one the models?

Holy Crap! Going straight to injection molded plastic? Damn, color me impressed...

To be honest, the biggest and possibly only obstacle preventing me from buying from Dreamforge was the cost. Not saying the cost isn't justified on the amazing model, but it's tremendously prohibitive to buy one of your Leviathans without serious forethought.

If you're going plastic, that has me sold.

Absolutionis wrote:To be honest, the biggest and possibly only obstacle preventing me from buying from Dreamforge was the cost. Not saying the cost isn't justified on the amazing model, but it's tremendously prohibitive to buy one of your Leviathans without serious forethought.

If you're going plastic, that has me sold.

I would like to second this. Going plastic by itself doesn't necessarily guarantee that I'll buy one of your AWESOME MACHINES, but if GOING PLASTIC = SIGNIFICANT PRICE REDUCTION, then I am totally in (I also second the notion that your great design perhaps merited the price, but it was still out of reach for a gamer like me). I am also excited about the idea of a Kickstarter, as those other ones floating around Dakka look cool, but none have blown me away in terms of the minis' quality and utility to me personally. But for your stuff, I'll MAKE a reason

Additionally, I worry about the potential health hazards of resin, so this would eliminate that problem too.

So, provisionally count me in - just don't tell my wife!

-C6

Nosegoblin,


I would just like to say that I am a great fan of yours. I allready own 28mm and 15mm scale leviathans, (heck I even have an old Gabriel Knight). I will surely buy a plastic Leviathan as well. Your product thus far has been outstanding.

This is the first kickstarter project I have serious considered contributing to in any way, and I WILL contribute. You can count me in for at least two of these when they become available.

Absolutionis wrote:To be honest, the biggest and possibly only obstacle preventing me from buying from Dreamforge was the cost. Not saying the cost isn't justified on the amazing model, but it's tremendously prohibitive to buy one of your Leviathans without serious forethought.

If you're going plastic, that has me sold.

Same situation. Bring on the Kickstarter!

With all this in mind, you can see why the starting pledge is higher than you may be accustomed to in a Kickstarter.

-from the DreamForge blog linked in OP

This part has me a little worried - since I only stopped myself from buying one before due to the prohibitive cost, the above caveat doesn't inspire much confidence that the Kickstarter will move closer to a price range that is affordable for folks like myself. I hope I'm worng on this. I guess when the Kickstarter details come out, we can all decide if our respective wallets can justify this.

Still, regardless of my own ability to get in on the Kickstarter, or buy stuff later, I'm glad to see a great design and great potential get some attention and support. A great addition to the hobby world at large, and hopefully a great option for us hobbyists far into the future.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Sorry about the caps... but there is no other way to ask for this.



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I assume that they will be 'around' the cost of the titans themselves ~$300

That is MUCH higher than most Mini Game Kickstarters. I hope that's what is meant by that

Makaleth wrote:
I assume that they will be 'around' the cost of the titans themselves ~$300

That is MUCH higher than most Mini Game Kickstarters. I hope that's what is meant by that

Hmm true but what if we just want a few boxes of the infantry if one of the big guys is the starting pledge? Unless they're one of those add on stuff

Kenshin: Good point... I am ONLY interested in the titans. They do have other stuff so maybe they are in this too.

But to be honest, just doing the titans on this and waiting to see how MUCH they can get with the small fries being added on afterwards or as optional extras (to smaller $1 pledges) might be the best bet.

DreamForge Games wrote:Plastic Eisenkern Stormtroopers? Yes

You have my undivided attention.

Amazing!!! So who will be producing the kits?

Very, very cool!!

I have to admit to a tiny twinge of disappointment that I won't be as unique in my hording of your creations but it's awesome that more people will have access to them, and I think I remember you saying they would be made in a slightly different scale (slightly smaller? than the 15mm ones, which are still really tall... or maybe I'm mis-remembering).

I hope the Kickstarter has the option for some of your troops, as well, although it sounds like it may be just for the 8.5" tall leviathan crusader.

What about converting the old models? The first plastic kit is a very ambitious project. We will be releasing the Leviathan Crusader at full scale (28mm 8.5” tall).

And for the future:

What can I expect for the next releases?
Plastic Eisenkern Stormtroopers? Yes.
More vehicles, Tanks, APC’s etc.? Yes.
More factions for the Iron-Core universe? Yes.
More Leviathan variants? Yes.
Optional arms for your Leviathans? Yes.
15mm scale kits? Yes.
All in plastic? Yes, yes and YES!

About the goal of the Kickstarter, I think:

As you can imagine, the initial startup costs involved with this production method are substantial. The tooling costs for this kit will exceed $100k, but moving in this direction is the best and most logical choice not only for my company but for my customers. We are offering this project in order to pay for the tooling, an expense far outside the ability for most small companies (such as DreamForge-Games) to absorb.

Anyway, all really, Really interesting! I am very interested in more Dreamforge products, although unfortunately I pretty much tapped out my hobby budget for this year by buying so many of the resin ones . But this is really awesome!

If there's a $100 to $150 "sweet spot pledge", I'm in. If the good pledges start at $300, I (and probably many others) will pass.

Starting pledge will be under $100.00 with a better discount per kit when you purchase multiples. They will Kickstart for less than 1/4 to 1/5 the cost of a resin kit I have some nice extras on tap for stretch goals and quite a few add X to get Y for after we cover the mold costs.....

I don't want to give any more away, but I wanted you to know they will be substantially less than the cost of a resin kit.

Great news about the price. Sounds like they'll be a premium priced injection kit, but still well under the resin kit cost.

NoseGoblin wrote:I don't want to give any more away, but I wanted you to know they will be substantially less than the cost of a resin kit.

Give it all away! GIVE IT ALL AWAY!

Can we at least get a vague date? I would love to get a Titan so want to know when I should be particularly "Fiscally Solvent"

Vain wrote:

NoseGoblin wrote:I don't want to give any more away, but I wanted you to know they will be substantially less than the cost of a resin kit.

Give it all away! GIVE IT ALL AWAY!

Can we at least get a vague date? I would love to get a Titan so want to know when I should be particularly "Fiscally Solvent"

On August 16th; the first day of Gencon, we will open up our Kickstarter campaign to help fund this switch from resin and metal miniatures and models to an all plastic line.

So... 3 Titans for $50? No?

Ok... $40?

Bananas.
I'm hoping that this goes through before we hit the KS saturation point. The international community of nerds can only remortgage their houses do many times.

NoseGoblin wrote:Starting pledge will be under $100.00 with a better discount per kit when you purchase multiples. They will Kickstart for less than 1/4 to 1/5 the cost of a resin kit I have some nice extras on tap for step goals and quite a few add X to get Y for after we cover the mold costs.....

I don't want to give any more away, but I wanted you to know they will be substantially less than the cost of a resin kit.

Oh happy days

The 16th will be very exciting

NoseGoblin wrote:On August 16th; the first day of Gencon, we will open up our Kickstarter campaign to help fund this switch from resin and metal miniatures and models to an all plastic line.

SHUT UP! I want to be told things without reading!

Sweet, time to crank that overtime!

Wow, this is awesome, although the timing is terrible for me financially...in in the Soda Pop kickstarter for a good amount, GW starter with chaos goodies in a couple weeks, and my family is making a long distance move in 5 weeks.

If the kick in for a full kit is around $100, I might b able to get in on it.

Hmm. definitely something to think about. A Crusader would make a bitchin' Imperial Knight, but I could never afford the resin price..