Lysander Wing and Grey knights?

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**cuda1179**

I am away from my books for the next few days. I was just wondering if Lysander's special rule would work with Grey Knights Terminators?

**Hellfury**

As in, if they were allied together?

**cuda1179**

That is exactly what I mean. If GK were attached to a Lysander wing, could they all teleport together?

**The Drop Zone**

i dont think so.. only because unless it says that allied troops gain the benfits of the host or main chapter then they wouldnt get his teleport ability

**Centurian99**

By RAW, I believe they do. Lysander's rules specify Terminators, and unless you're going to argue that Grey Knight Terminators aren't Terminators, they get to come in with Lysander.

Of course, the real question is "why would you?" Every squad of grey knights means two less assault cannons. While I love my psycannons, I'd swap them for assault cannons in a heartbeat.

**lord_sutekh**

It adds some normal-init, S6 CC power to the army, though.

**Pariah Press**

Posted By Centurian99 on 01/17/2007 8:25 PM
Of course, the real question is "why would you?"

'Cause they look good?

**moosifer**

The whole point of the drop pod termies/lysander wing is fitting as much assault cannons into the army at the least cost, and GK termies dont fit that. I could be wrong

**Lemartes**

But don't forget that GK Terminators cannot always deepstrike. They only deepstrike if the mission allows it per the idiot wargear book.

**Pariah Press**

Nobody pays attention to the Wargear book, do they?

**The Drop Zone**

Posted By Centurian99 on 01/17/2007 8:25 PM
By RAW, I believe they do. Lysander's rules specify Terminators, and unless you're going to argue that Grey Knight Terminators aren't Terminators, they get to come in with Lysander.

Of course, the real question is "why would you?" Every squad of grey knights means two less assault cannons. While I love my psycannons, I'd swap them for assault cannons in a heartbeat.

if you go by the raw then you have to say they cannot use his rule as the allied army does not gain any benefits from the main chapter thus if you want to take raw for one you have to do it for both

**Slyde**

Do you actually have a rule somewhere that says allied troops can never benefit from something in the parent army? That sounds like an assumption to me.

**blue loki**

Posted By Pariah Press on 01/18/2007 7:29 PM
Nobody pays attention to the Wargear book, do they?

Sure do. Just because some happen to think the book is ill-conceived does not make it any less of an official rulebook.

**skyth**

Grey Knight terminators have the always teleport rule do to being a grey knight terminator. They don't use the terminator armor wargear.

**Kultofthebonedragons**

well if we payed attention to the war gear book termies would be 3+/+5in right LOL ( I died LOL when i saw that)

**Centurian99**

if you go by the raw then you have to say they cannot use his rule as the allied army does not gain any benefits from the main chapter thus if you want to take raw for one you have to do it for both

Please quote the rule that says that...or else I'm going to conclude you're making stuff up.