Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - p#132 Questoris Knight Magaera

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**aka_mythos**

Siege Automata!?-Crazy awesome... That thing is huge!

The Lancer, it's great to see more Knights but the epic one had a canon... So I guess it is entirely retooled as a pure close combat Titan hunter... Maybe it's how they're differentiating Lancer from Baron? The shield does make me wonder if they're reducing its armor and stepping up its invulnerable save. Either way it's well made and looks great.

**Warpig1815**

Has anybody got another picture of the WIP Salamanders terminator? I can't seem to get H.B.M.C's pictures to display.

**happygolucky**

Rules for Lancer

(Ok I do not understand how this link is broken can someone please try to fix it as I have tried to do so on multiple occasions)..

**CthuluIsSpy**

happygolucky wrote:
Rules for Lancer

**happygolucky**

Thanks

**warboss**

Warpig1815 wrote:
Has anybody got another picture of the WIP Salamanders terminator? I can't seem to get H.B.M.C's pictures to display.

If you go to the google drive link posted last page, there are 3 pics at different angles there but you have to click on the image to enlarge them. Basically a chunky TH/SS sallie terminator character.

**mikeyboyj**

Hi all - I have a few of the Open Day Exclusive Mini's if anybody is interested.

PM me if you're interested - I have done a lot of business with people on Dakka before and have all positive feedback. Full details in the Trade forum

**warboss**

Could you post some pics of the minis? I'm not really sure what the show exclusive ones are as I think the Iron Father one was later mentioned as a general release instead of a show exclusive.

**aka_mythos**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
happygolucky wrote:
Rules for Lancer

Thanks! I missed that.
3d6 running in shooting phase... Speedy
Lance and cannon in one... Cool, there is my cannon.
No shield on rear and lower front armor but the invulnerable save applies to close combat... Interesting, but i forsee lancers getting shot down.

**Co'tor Shas**

It's a bit fuzzy, but is that heavy 6.

**timd**

Alpharius wrote:
Shocked that the Knight is a full resin kit and NOT and upgrade/add-on to the recently released plastic kit.

Weird decision there...

The Epic Lancers are very different from Paladins/Errants, so it looks like they were following that concept. Looks like everything except the body and hips are different from the Paladin kit, so not much to cross over...

aka_mythos wrote:

The Lancer, it's great to see more Knights but the epic one had a canon... So I guess it is entirely retooled as a pure close combat Titan hunter...

Posted book page shows that they gave the lance a ranged attack as well. Decent solution...

T

**cincydooley**

Zomg lancer. Schwing.

**sonofruss**

Co'tor Shas wrote:
It's a bit fuzzy, but is that heavy 6.

I see Heavy 6 Concussive

**Melcavuk**

Yeah,Heavy 6 Concussive, Str 7 AP2. Short ranged but quite a punch on it.

**Asmodai Asmodean**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
That Thanatos means I have finally found my Mechanicus Standin for a Riptide! Now to find something to use as a Hammerhead, and a Cadre fireblade. Thralls are going to be Fire Warriors.

You mean like this?

OMGWTFBBQ that Siege walker is amazing.

Who was saying that Mechanicum aren't going to get any giant walkers/.

**Ahtman**

Am I the only one that thinks the Lancer looks like it should be a Cygnar jack in Warmachine?

**Asmodai Asmodean**

aka_mythos wrote:
It happens any time GW makes a new army or revisits an army after a long time, what you had before will tend to look out of place.

I don't think we'll see Mechanicum get large walkers beyond knights. Aesthetically I think GW/FW see it as a chaos or dark Mechanicum thing. I'm inclined to believe we'll see more of these different tracked guns and varieties of robots, in addition to the infantry we're still waiting on. The tracked guns and robots seem to dominate the existing artwork.

Your heresy has been exposed! Recant!

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Any rules for the Thanatas Siege Walker?

**cincydooley**

Ahtman wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the Lancer looks like it should be a Cygnar jack in Warmachine?

Lancer concept and design has been around longer than Privateer as a company has.

So if anything some of the Cygnar designs looks like they should be part of Imperial Knight houses.

**Yodhrin**

Were there talks/presentations this year, and if so did we manage to sneak any Dakka Kommandos inside with cameras?

I'm interested to see if, given loads of people are now starting up brand new Mechanicum armies, they're going to stop stalling with the "we don't want to put out models of stuff people have already" excuse and give us some ruddy Skitarii infantry.

**xttz**

Was there any more info on the Nids stuff? I'm really curious what those mockups are, one of them looks like an MC-sized Lictor.
Did they mention anything about IA4?

**Ahtman**

cincydooley wrote:
Ahtman wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the Lancer looks like it should be a Cygnar jack in Warmachine?

Lancer concept and design has been around longer than Privateer as a company has. This isn't an a attack, just an observation; no one is screaming that anyone ripped anyone off. Things evolve and change over time and take inspiration from all sorts of places. This is normal, and it doesn't change that the new Lancer has more in common with Cygnar jacks visually then it does with the old Lancers in Epic.

So if anything some of the Cygnar designs looks like they should be part of Imperial Knight houses.

Yes I know, but that doesn't mean this current iteration isn't skewing closer aesthetically to Warmachine than the old Epic minis.

Spoiler:

**xttz**

Ahtman wrote:

Yes I know, but that doesn't mean this current iteration isn't skewing closer aesthetically to Warmachine than the old Epic minis.

Spoiler:

Don't forget...

**cincydooley**

Looks a lot like the Paladin body with the Lancer arms, to me.

Like I said, if anything, the Cygnar models are derivative of the old Epic Knights.

**Ahtman**

There was more to the post that didn't seem to survive. I'm not going to rewrite it again, but in essence it was that I wasn't saying that anyone ripped anyone else off, just that styles change over time with inspiration for things coming from all over. While there are older models for Lancers, this new one makes me think more of Warmachine than the older Epic minis.

**Haighus**

Just noticed what looks like some new knight arm variants- a big flamer and a single chamber vulkan mega bolter by the looks of it- in the link H.B.M.C posted a couple of pages back.

**cincydooley**

Ahtman wrote:
There was more to the post that didn't seem to survive. I'm not going to rewrite it again, but in essence it was that I wasn't saying that anyone ripped anyone else off, just that styles change over time with inspiration for things coming from all over. While there are older models for Lancers, this new one makes me think more of Warmachine than the older Epic minis.

Ahh, that makes a lot more sense then. You can understand why people are quick to point out the existence of these far before Privateer (and I have a huge Cygnar army) existed due to all of the ignorant "GW copied Privateer" uproar that happened when the Knight kit was first released.

**Ahtman**

cincydooley wrote:
Ahtman wrote:
There was more to the post that didn't seem to survive. I'm not going to rewrite it again, but in essence it was that I wasn't saying that anyone ripped anyone else off, just that styles change over time with inspiration for things coming from all over. While there are older models for Lancers, this new one makes me think more of Warmachine than the older Epic minis.

Ahh, that makes a lot more sense then. You can understand why people are quick to point out the existence of these far before Privateer (and I have a huge Cygnar army) existed due to all of the ignorant "GW copied Privateer" uproar that happened when the Knight kit was first released.

I didn't see any of those earlier post, but I suppose it wouldn't surprise me. It is strange that the new knights never made me think of Privateer, but this Lancer does. Perhaps it is because I am more familiar with the ones in my pic.

**Haighus**

whalemusic360 wrote:
Whats up with the marine next to the Iron Giant? He might just be a conversion, but he's got some fancy Bolter going on.

Having zoomed in on the picture, it looks like a Tigrus pattern combi-melta, that has been converted by the barrel being replaced by a bit of plasticard tube to look like a suppressor. Looks like a pretty cool spec-ops gun.

**Looky Likey**

Just been round my friends to pick up my collectors copy of Extermination that they got for me. Lovely set but the art book is a little disappointing.

Apparently FW are doing Tigrus pattern combi bolters. The large gun on the big Mechanicum walker is a Plasma Mortar that is large blast, ordinance and ignores cover. The walker is a little shorter than a Knight but a little wider.

**Thanatos73**

So any other info from book 3? I'm curious as to what special units the Iron Warriors got and info on the new Primarchs.