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 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Those look great! I'm hoping the painted upcharge won't be too outrageous. It would be nice to just get some stuff table ready.

Around 50-60% more than unpainted

That sounds pretty reasonable honestly! I wonder if we'll get some bases to go with it.

So if one wants only a single box of a single theme like Rocky Caves then a Miner pledge would be the best? Do I get it right? Also any differences wheter it is KS or Gamefound?

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So if one wants only a single box of a single theme like Rocky Caves then a Miner pledge would be the best? Do I get it right? Also any differences wheter it is KS or Gamefound?

Yeah Miner is the way to go assuming you want the 3 sub themes from the SSG as well. Gamefound is similar to KS and pledges are only collected on successful funding at the end of the campaign but being newer has a few extra features like stretch pay which allows you to pay in instalments Archon has set the minimum spend for stretch pay to €92 and it’s collected over 6 months. Looking at other GF I don’t think you can vary the length yourself so you either pay €140 for Miner once the GF ends successfully or €23.30 for 6 months starting on the day the campaign ends.

 DaveC wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So if one wants only a single box of a single theme like Rocky Caves then a Miner pledge would be the best? Do I get it right? Also any differences wheter it is KS or Gamefound?

Yeah Miner is the way to go assuming you want the 3 sub themes from the SSG as well. Gamefound is similar to KS and pledges are only collected on successful funding at the end of the campaign but being newer has a few extra features like stretch pay which allows you to pay in instalments Archon has set the minimum spend for stretch pay to €92 and it’s collected over 6 months. Looking at other GF I don’t think you can vary the length yourself so you either pay €140 for Miner once the GF ends successfully or €23.30 for 6 months starting on the day the campaign ends.

Thanks for the info

Goblin Lair - Rocky Caves sub theme teaser

> So if one wants only a single box of a single theme like Rocky Caves then a Miner pledge would be the best? Do I get it right? Also any differences wheter it is KS or Gamefound?

fyi, If you only want a single item in a crowdfunding project, make sure you check shipping prices first. Can't tell you how many times I've seen a backer complain about shipping when it's one item. See if you can pledge $1 and increase it in the PM. For Archon, I'm sure you can get a core set from the OLGS, without shipping costs. OTOH, If you want the SG and SSG (three subthemes of your choice), never mind what I said.

Just a quick note I saw on Deuslair shipping only the Of Sea and Thunder Add On has been produced (in addition to the Core, SG and SSG) the other 3 are lined up for production but if your order has them expect shipping to take on the longer end of their estimates.

@Szymon_Archon: I'd like some one-hex flames that could look like a wall of fire when placed next to each other.

Here's a pic of a game of Gloomhaven: Crimson Scales using some Altar Quest flames:

'painting' the terrain for the prepaint option

https://www.facebook.com/1109599561/videos/1125013965190751?idorvanity=2418164861823205

(facebook video so you'll have to follow the link)

 ced1106 wrote:
@Szymon_Archon: I'd like some one-hex flames that could look like a wall of fire when placed next to each other.

Spell/Environmental effects would be nice, although I don't think we have the space for it in this campaign... I think our next campaign should allow for more stuff like that.

Caves pushed back 1 week to the 12th

And add on prices (although campaign has changed to USD)

They must have increased the size of the legacy sets to be charging $85-90 for them. The old sets were $27. Guessing they doubled or tripled the number of tiles to make them on par with the starter? Hopefully they added more solid walls. It's hard to build a structure when every wall has a window.

We still really need diagonal and curved walls for the fantasy themes.

Judging from the one prepainted set they have on retail, it's double the old Rooms.

Add ons $29

I might go for some of those even if i don't want the main caverns

Those Gobbos and spiders are nice.

The Abominations are SICK

Also super glad they went with 2-3 poses for each mook after all, it started out as 6 copies with different arms.

That Malevolent Managerie some might get me to back ...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Judging from the one prepainted set they have on retail, it's double the old Rooms.

We're still looking at whether we want to increase the size of the Legacy sets or keep them the same size as the ones in retail, we'll update the page once we have more info

That demon lord is awesome! Skellies have some very sturdy boots

Glad you like the minis! Hoping to show these off in 3D asap

Got most of my Deuslair stuff yesterday (sadly missing a couple of boxes which i've reached out to Archon for) and it's generally looking good

Casting and sprue design continues to improve, the multipose options for some of the minis is also great (take that GW, it's NOT yesterdays fashion)

now what do i want to build first, a sky ship or a giant turtle?

Good to hear! I skipped that one as I have no need for crate upon crates of RPG parties, but I might go all in on Caves.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Got most of my Deuslair stuff yesterday (sadly missing a couple of boxes which i've reached out to Archon for) and it's generally looking good

Casting and sprue design continues to improve, the multipose options for some of the minis is also great (take that GW, it's NOT yesterdays fashion)

now what do i want to build first, a sky ship or a giant turtle?

Please post here pics of the built minis from your pledge (like all of them)

There’s been a few changes and new reveals over the last few days.

- SSG are gone all subthemes available as part of the pledge options
- Dwarven Warrior level added $249 - 2 Core, 6 Subthemes, 1SG
- Add ons have more minis but have gone up to $39



- all prices are ex VAT so expect to pay 20 - 25% extra depending on your local rate.
- Minotaur revealed
- Evil Eye sub theme render added
- themed edge clips added

@Szymon_Archon - is minotaur mono option or multiple options miniature, for example right hand weapon or both bare hands?

Caves Q&A March 1st

- SG add on possibly in PM - they need to see how many sprues it contains in order to price it.
- 80 to 90 SG designed
- PM 3 months after campaign ends. Shipping approx 8 to 9 months.
- Core set sprues should be done by campaigns end - might be available for rapid shipping in PM.
- Deuslair minis available as an add on.
- Curved walls are cast in 2 parts.
- SSG are gone (as subthemes are now part of the pledges) but unused former SSGs might come back depending on funding. Sounds like the Cockatrice might be coming back again.
- Skeletons and Demons are on separate sprues. Boss on it's own sprue.
- Goblins and Spiders might be on separate sprues as well. Goblin King and Spider Boss share a sprue.
- As minions have their own sprues they may be available separately at some point.
- They've mentioned being more mindful of what goes on sprues to avoid the random mix from past kits and to help with retail sets.
- Edges have 45 degree ends so they can be joined up at 90 degree angles. Can be used to make pits, chasms etc.
- Stretch pay can only be used once per campaign - either for the campaign or in the PM. You can't use stretch pay for the campaign and then again for extras added in the PM. So you either use stretch pay for the campaign pledge and any extras added in the PM have to be paid in full or you pay in full for the campaign pledge and then use stretch pay for the PM. Apparently you can pay off stretch pay early but that still won't allow you to use it more than once for a campaign if for example you use it for the campaign and pay it off before the PM opens.

@Archon - if you will start thinking of doing some medieval buildings, consider something like https://www.renedra.co.uk/product/medieval-cottage/

 Shadow Walker wrote:
@Archon - if you will start thinking of doing some medieval buildings, consider something like https://www.renedra.co.uk/product/medieval-cottage/

They already do.

https://shop.archon-studio.com/terrains/270-wooden-cottage-5901414673505.html

https://shop.archon-studio.com/terrains/279-tudor-mansion-5901414673703.html

But you need to buy the roofs separately.

https://shop.archon-studio.com/terrains/268-roof-set-5901414673482.html

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
@Archon - if you will start thinking of doing some medieval buildings, consider something like https://www.renedra.co.uk/product/medieval-cottage/

They already do.

https://shop.archon-studio.com/terrains/270-wooden-cottage-5901414673505.html

https://shop.archon-studio.com/terrains/279-tudor-mansion-5901414673703.html

But you need to buy the roofs separately.

https://shop.archon-studio.com/terrains/268-roof-set-5901414673482.html

That is why I had never noticed them haha. Do not like the roofs though, too modern for a medieval village I want. Thanks for the links anyway