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 Gallahad wrote:
 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
I think it is likely they made what people actually want and need, which makes sense in HIPS. Reaper has repeatedly said they get tons of requests for townsfolk, but few actual sales. In an actual game, its rare to need more than a handful of non-coms, and in those rare situations, 2d pogs will work. This seems to have 20+ usual suspects, and 4 kids, which should easily meet the vast majority of players needs.


Well, it doesn't help that Reaper's Townsfolk are poorly sculpted.

Fireforge's Folk Rabble was enthusiastically received (and purchased).

What D&L is offering here looks great. I'm basically planning to pledge just to get the Townsfolk.


Are you implying anything Reaper is well-sculpted?

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I stopped buying Reaper simply because they're more like truescale 35mm than anything resembling 28.

I have 3 boxes of Fireforge peasants so clearly happy to spend money on civvies.

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They mentioned in one of the videos that they have around 60 other townsfolk planned for the stretch goals, there’s concepts in an earlier post. If all you want is townsfolk just get the townsfolk starter and the stretch goals 3 set for around $40 to $50 plus shipping that will give around 120 minis plus you end up with all the other SG stuff as a bonus which may include a giant and dragon.

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 DaveC wrote:
They mentioned in one of the videos that they have around 60 other townsfolk planned for the stretch goals, there’s concepts in an earlier post. If all you want is townsfolk just get the townsfolk starter and the stretch goals 3 set for around $40 to $50 plus shipping that will give around 120 minis plus you end up with all the other SG stuff as a bonus.


4 of that is probably what I want since I don't need walls

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 Gallahad wrote:

Well, it doesn't help that Reaper's Townsfolk are poorly sculpted.


Are they? Have you seen them. They are simple sculpts but frankly for peasants less is more. I ordered this add on twice.



I like that it includes some children and a granny. I wish I had more like that. I will be converting up some Wargames Atlantic hobbits for more children.

 Gallahad wrote:

Fireforge's Folk Rabble was enthusiastically received (and purchased).


Yes those are very good, and I am using them to kitbash other civilians to avoid copypasta.

 Gallahad wrote:

What D&L is offering here looks great. I'm basically planning to pledge just to get the Townsfolk.


I will certainly be getting Townsfolk and sewers but I am unlikely to buy the houses. There are so many better ways to get fantasy houses now, and I am not convinced buy the square grid town builder. I would rather 3e print houses from numerous sites and buy plastic or laser cut house kits.


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Are you implying anything Reaper is well-sculpted?


I prefer Reaper for their monsters and the odd mini I cannot kitbash from hard plastic multipose kits. There is a lot of junk in a Bones kickstarter, but there are many gems also. All in all Reaper are positive enough I keep coming back, just not for their paints.

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Got my stuff

Biggest pile of sprues I ever got for 200€


(it's two deep)

I fear the true cost will be bleeding hands from all the clipping

A few stretch goal bitz suffer from last minute resizing to fit the sprue and ended up being not quite functional (like a cryo pod clearly too small for a 28mm human, and a pile of 1mm skulls)

But at this price, whatevers!

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they shall become pet cryo pods,

after all Jones the cat needs his own bed (even if he doesn't use it and nips in with one of the crew at the end of the day)

looking forward to getting mine (it will be a surprise how many stretch goal sprues I added to my order, I can't remember)

 
   
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3 new female adventurers Dwarf, Human and Orc



And marketplace concepts

   
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I'm gonna need a bigger paycheck.

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If you were interested in the Archon Dungeons and Lasers 3 village terrain and miniatures KS, add yourself to their notification. We're pretty close to their pre-KS unlock of a novelty miniature.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/archonstudio/dungeons-and-lasers-third-edition

7600+ Notification sign ups (so-called Followers) so far!

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My wife and I have some of the Reaper villagers in metal and they are fine sculpts. We also have some of the Reaper Dreadmere characters in Bones Black and they are also fine sculpts. We are eagerly awaiting our Bones V pledge.

We are also eagerly awaiting our Dungeons and Lasers 2 pledge. The D&L 1 bits and pieces we have gotten on eBay, as well as some Kazumi Temple pieces from Archon Studios’ earlier Rampart KS have been excellent so we are looking forward to D&L 3.



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Not sure if there is any new information on there (and from the D&L II box)

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 Hanskrampf wrote:
Not sure if there is any new information on there (and from the D&L II box)



Thank you, very informative
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KS launches 4th of May and will run for 2 weeks.

No interest in the campaign but it's added value at no extra cost so happy days for those that want it.





And for the Big Surprise - we introduce a complete 5E Scenario set in Woodhaven "Adventurer's Trail ." All of you will get one printed paperback book per pledge. In it, you will find a story, characters' stats and descriptions, mini-maps, and many more—all written by Ben Allsop.


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Hey!

I see roofs in that picture!

I'm in if I can get roofs...

This KS might be able to fill a need for terrain for a lot of games that I have... the theme will work well!

   
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Roofs (and doors) are sold-separately as add-ons.

See you in the KS!

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I think I might even get some rooms just so all the wall bits I got in previous stretch goals don't go to waste. Quite an insidious marketing strategy.

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 ced1106 wrote:
Roofs (and doors) are sold-separately as add-ons.

See you in the KS!


Excellent news - and yes, see you there!

   
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A few updates

The town sewers now count as 2 rooms rather than 1 when picking your pledge. ( uses 2 of your 5 room picks for a village pledge) the contents will be reworked.

The Townsfolk starter image has been up dated to fill in the silhouettes



Also they are planning 1 more set in translucent plastic and have a vote up on Facebook - docks seems to be winning?



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We just got our D&L 2 pledge (with some D&L 1 legacy pieces). It is pretty awesome. Very cost effective. The stretchgoal accessories are particularly incredible. We love them.

It is difficult to see how we will integrate dungeon pieces with our Dwarven Forge dungeon pieces so I am trying to figure out how we can instead use them for surface building pieces once Woodhaven launches.

There was a flyer in the box with this cool image...
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Wow all over this for the townsfolk!
   
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The new Sewers set (now counts as 2 rooms)






and the roofs add on

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While the sculpt is great I'm not convinced the transparent plastic is a worthwhile gimmick when you can see the clips under the tiles and there's still the plug holes at every intersection.

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True but it doesn't detract from the overall package better to have it and have the option to paint over if you want.

Just noticed the D&L 1 and 2 SG add ons are for the fantasy elements only, they'll probably price them the same to cover their costs but they'll have a 1/3rd less content without the Sci-Fi bits. I think that's better than increasing the price and getting the Sci-Fi bits. SG 2 is still a good buy if it stays $20 and I'll probably get another set, SG 1 not so much - but there's bits I'd like a 2nd set of.

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Any thoughts on how many roof sets for each room? I think each room has 9 squares, and each roof 4 squares of coverage, so one roof set per 2-story room??

EDIT: If you don't like the sewers (or the warlock's room) you can kludge sewers with a fantasy core set and some 2D printouts of sewers (and magic circles).

Found some 2D sewers free on DriveThruRPG : https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse.php?keywords=sewer++free&x=0&y=0&author=&artist=&pfrom=&pto=

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 ced1106 wrote:
Any thoughts on how many roof sets for each room? I think each room has 9 squares, and each roof 4 squares of coverage, so one roof set per 2-story room??


They’ve made the roof set bigger it will cost more but this makes more sense and should cover 3 or 4 buildings depending on layouts ( or 1 mansion!)

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Hm, looks like there's going to be a bit of a break in the slope if your roof is more than 1 deep, and there's no ridge piece so floorplans are limited limited to even-numbered widths (or a flat middle using floor tiles)

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My D&L2 arrived today.

All I can say is: "Yo Dawg, I heard I like dragons, so I got me some dragons to go with my dragons."

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My latest blog entry focuses largely on Dungeons and Lasers 2.

https://thegrumpygnome.home.blog/2021/04/29/the-backlog-grows/

We will definitely be backing D&L 3, it is just a question of how big our pledge will be.

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1 of these 2 minis will become the Early Bird (first 48 hours) bonus miniature and the other a stretch goal (vote on Facebook)



They’ve also shown the castle crenellations and full building mock ups with the street set. I still think the castle needs less windows and more solid walls.



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