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Rick B was good enough to list the revealed infantry types (no other info yet) that would be unlocked between $120k and $170k.


Ysians: Scout-Drunes
Norse: Holumenn (ship's crew)
Khthones: Gorgórar
Fomoraic: Gabrax
Byzantii: Legionaries
Brythoniaid: Teulu – hearthguard
Angelcynn: Gesíth
Albainn: Gaimorlom (veteran spearmen)

Gorgorar would apparently be snake ladies.

And to add to that, Mierce has begun teasing us with the Norse infantry concepts:

Holumenn (Viking ship's crew)
Champion:


Bannerman:

The Ancient Dragon thing looks great. No intention of going in for 700 pounds to get him... will buy for 20

I am in for the Byzantii (gotta love these Demon minis), so I am patiently waiting for when their encounter host is going to be unlocked.

Encounter host image details up:

I really like the Sronax and Tarvax hosts...

I am now tempted to get into this one...

Also, at £66,666k (when Malacant is unlocked!) we will show off the concept for the free miniature that will ship with all rulebook and encounter host pledges (1 per backer).

So the Book + Uhtred pledge (at £30 for an early bird) gets you the book rrp £35 plus Uhtred (rrp £15) and when the new guy (Finnan) is unlocked you also get a £15 rrp mini free!
Then if you want more you can
Add a mounted general (£30) and get a free £10 (rrp £15) foot general.
Or go one step further and add an Encounter Host





all are around 30% off RRP

Best value for a newcomer

Pledge for the "Darklands + Uhtred" pledge level (still some early birds @ £30)
then increase your pledge by £30 for a mounted general (of your choice, you choose after the KS ends via our pledge manager) and then get a foot genearl free!
Add an encounter host for eg Norse by increasing your pledge level by £90 (saving 30% on the rrp!) these sets also include x10 black D10s x 1 white D10 (all with Mierce logo) and a set of kindred-specific order tokens.

This is £30+£30+£90 = £150 and at £150 you qualify for a free Danilio Cruz mini!

So for £150 you get a 200+ page hardback rulebook, 4 free minis (Uhtred the KS exclusive mini, a foot general to match your mounted general + Danilio Cruz & Finnan the sell-swords) , a mounted general and a starter set! Easilly enough to start playing games of Darklands.

So by pledging £150 (plus any apllicable shipping) you get 4 free minis plus save ££ss on the RRP.

I'm currently in for early Book + Drune Host + Sonax Host + Malacant..... but the more I look at the Dyndraig the more I think I'll choose them instead of the Sonax and put my desire for the Kraken on the backburner until the human Fomoraic/Ballorian infantry makes an appearance.

I'm a bit confused... Whats the difference between Sronax and Tarvax? Rhinos vs. water buffalo? I thought the Fomoraic were supposed to be "sea-devils", what do rhinos and water buffalo have to do with sea monsters?

Also, why no Byzantii encounter host?

chaos0xomega wrote:
I'm a bit confused... Whats the difference between Sronax and Tarvax? Rhinos vs. water buffalo? I thought the Fomoraic were supposed to be "sea-devils", what do rhinos and water buffalo have to do with sea monsters?

Also, why no Byzantii encounter host?

They have different rules in the game.

As for the Fomoraic - they're Fomorians - from wikipedia: "They are sometimes said to have had the body of a man and the head of a goat". Check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomorians

Mierce is simply adding their twist on it though further sea creatures have been hinted at.

There's no Byzantii encounter host because they have no units to unlock yet (see also Albainn).

Sronax and Tarvax sets are two choices for the same kindred - you can choose either, they're both on the same side but that particular kindred has two choices.

Fomoraic has servants above and below the sea. In time Conand may well appear at the head of a host of sea-beasties.

Do regular man-sized units even stand a chance in the Darklands?

I like the look of the Angelcynn troops, but, do Regular Joes just get trod underfoot all the time?

chaos0xomega wrote:
I'm a bit confused... Whats the difference between Sronax and Tarvax? Rhinos vs. water buffalo? I thought the Fomoraic were supposed to be "sea-devils", what do rhinos and water buffalo have to do with sea monsters?

Also, why no Byzantii encounter host?

@Chaos0xomega:
There's an 11th century text called Lebor na hUidre (the Book of the Dun Cow) that describes them as having the body of a man and the head of a goat, and I think Mierce took this hybrid manimal concept and expanded it further, just like they exaggerated the nordic troll concept to include Blood-Maw, the Vore. In addition, Buarainech, the father of Balor (god-commander of the Fomoraic) is described as "cow-faced".
As a result, you get a kindred that breed with animals, and just happen to come from the sea. As a result, you get gabrax (goat-men), tarvax (cow-men), sronax (rhino-men), mammax (elephant-men), mallax (sloth-men), and so on.

The rumored Byzantii infantry have yet to be unlocked; until that happens, they can't really offer a host featuring the models!

Mierce has put on a new pledge level:

THE SWEET SPOT -- get the hardback version of the Darklands rules, Uhtred & Finnan the sell-swords, a mounted General from the £40,000 "GENERALS" stretch goal and his foot equivalent, Danilo Cruz and an Encounter Host of your choice for £150 ($225) - saving loads from purchasing them all individually! This pledge will mirror any offers given by the "DARKLANDS & UHTRED" reward, so its value may well increase!

Ah! Thanks for the history/mythology/folklore lesson! I think I'll hold until I see a Byzantii encounter host (or a sea creature based Fomoraic option) pop up. Then again, i do like the look of the Sronax...

The Sronax are freaking huge as well. They tower over the Tarvax who are by no means small.


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Could we get the thread title changed to mention the "sweet spot pledge!" ?

 Alpharius wrote:
Do regular man-sized units even stand a chance in the Darklands?

I like the look of the Angelcynn troops, but, do Regular Joes just get trod underfoot all the time?

Yes. Although, individually weaker, together the damage mounts up. With the fact that all warriors (from humans to monstrous beasts) get weaker as they take more damage, a unit of ten Ax-Drunes will slowly chip away at something much larger until they are able to overpower it

just changed my pledge to The Sweet Spot. that is a great deal.

 plastictrees wrote:
The Sronax are freaking huge as well. They tower over the Tarvax who are by no means small.

I thought as much!

So...

 Alpharius wrote:
Do regular man-sized units even stand a chance in the Darklands?

I like the look of the Angelcynn troops, but, do Regular Joes just get trod underfoot all the time?

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EDIT:

OK - I saw the answer...

So, is there much by way of ranged attack or magic/spell casting in the game?

 Alpharius wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
The Sronax are freaking huge as well. They tower over the Tarvax who are by no means small.

I thought as much!

So...

 Alpharius wrote:
Do regular man-sized units even stand a chance in the Darklands?

I like the look of the Angelcynn troops, but, do Regular Joes just get trod underfoot all the time?

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EDIT:

OK - I saw the answer...

So, is there much by way of ranged attack or magic/spell casting in the game?

Yes. Invocations (Sorcery) is in. Though they do cost the user in constitution to cast it (which can be recovered through meditation) which makes them weaker in combat.

Ranged attacks are in as well. Bow drunes being the first out. Some monstrous beasts (Like Vaak, the Ice and Rock beast) can throw ice shards at you. Byzantii are rumoured to have war engines of some kind as well as their Pilum Javelins.

Don't forget the pig-splat!

Alpharius, 10 Ax-Drunes are the first entry on my Ysian muster sheet (in a recnt game they chopped Arade Mawr to pieces!). Also, a Drune Priest + Bow Drunes have some excellent synergy.

The larger the beasties get, the less skillful they are (generally) so, it's harder for them to hit the little guys and easier for them to be hit in return. On the flipside though a monster has more attacks and they are much more powerful - also a little guy will most likely die from a hit from a monster but the humans need to hot the big guys many times to take him down.

So human-sized guys must hunt in packs - think of a bunch of cavemen bringing down a mammoth!

 plastictrees wrote:
The Sronax are freaking huge as well. They tower over the Tarvax who are by no means small.


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Could we get the thread title changed to mention the "sweet spot pledge!" ?

Yeah i didn't realise until I saw this pic that my cow men are the little guys of the monstrous infantry! No regrets though. I think Tarvax got an extra 28mm model in their set compared to most of the other kindreds too.


/ I like the new price points and graphics, eager to see the next stretch bonus.

 razormage wrote:
The rumored Byzantii infantry have yet to be unlocked; until that happens, they can't really offer a host featuring the models!

Mierce said in the KS comments that Byzantii Legionnaires unlock at £100k

Mierce will there be an option to split shipping on the £150 sweet spot since most of the encounter hosts are ready to ship? I'm seriously considering switching to that level, don't really want to wait a year for a Brythoniaid kindred to ship though.

JWBS wrote:
Mierce will there be an option to split shipping on the £150 sweet spot since most of the encounter hosts are ready to ship? I'm seriously considering switching to that level, don't really want to wait a year for a Brythoniaid kindred to ship though.

From the KS page. Not sure if this helps you or not.

Shipping Costs

Shipping costs will be fairly simple, for they are tied to stretch goals.

If you are outside the UK, shipping will cost £10 for whatever you are purchasing for the FIRST shipment only, obviously the Darklands rulebook and the Nobles stretch goals.

Now, you can wait for all of your purchases to be produced before we ship them, of course; but if you don't wish to do that, I'm afraid we must ask you for the shipping costs for each shipment.

Further shipment of purchases will cost a flat rate of £3 (UK), £6 (EU), £10 (ROW) - and these are "lowest weight" prices - for each stretch goal "wave" afterward, unless you wish to combine shipment of waves. Thus, if you have purchased miniatures from a stretch goal produced after the nobles, it will cost £3 to ship any or all of the miniatures from that stretch goal within the UK separately from another wave.

It should be noted that shipping will be relatively fluid thanks to the time it takes for sculptors to, well, sculpt the miniatures; and thus we may be able to ship waves together, combine a stretch goal with the first shipment, and so on and so forth. As always, we will keep you informed as much as possible.

Oh yeah thanks.

We can split shipments at request, Though this will incur an extra shipping fee.

Further shipment of purchases will cost a flat rate of £3 (UK), £6 (EU), £10 (ROW)

Though the Brythoniad set will have to wait for Angerdern (the Dyndraig commander) to be sculpted and cast before we could ship. Likely ETA on Angedern is early 2014 but that isn't guaranteed just yet.




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Heh, ninja'd!

I love this concept art.

£65,000 Free Stretch Goal - Finnan

As we've now passed £65,000, we can unveil the simply awesome Finnan, Exile of the Uí Néill miniature, the very first of the Érainn - the Irish!

Finnan is a sell-sword that will work for any kindred, in exchange for gold of course.





http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/ks2/stretch_goals_65000_finnan.jpg

As it states above, Finnan is free to anyone who has pledged for the "DARKLANDS & UHTRED", "DARKLANDS & UHTRED, EARLIER", "THE SWEET SPOT", "DARKLANDS, UHTRED & NOBLES" and "YOU'RE THEIR DESCENDANT" rewards - so that basically means you get two free miniatures with the Darklands: First Edition rulebook, Uhtred and Finnan!

Again, you can purchase additional Finnan miniatures for £12.

"THE SWEET SPOT" reward

We've also added a new reward - called "THE SWEET SPOT" - for those who have found things a little confusing and just want the best deal in one reward. That's why we've called it "The Sweet Spot"!

So if you pledge for this reward, spending £150, you'll receive:
◾The Darklands: First Edition rulebook (worth £35 RRP)
◾The strictly limited edition Uhtred miniature (worth £15 RRP)
◾The Finnan miniature (worth £15 RRP)
◾A mounted general from the £40,000 stretch goal of your choice (worth £35 or £45 RRP, depending on which one)
◾The general on foot that complements the mounted general (worth £15 RRP)
◾An encounter host chosen from those available in this Kickstarter (worth between £135 and £185 RRP, depending on which one) which also contain 11 Mierce wolf D10 dice
◾The Danilo Cruz miniature (worth £15 RRP)

So for £150 you basically get a 200+ page hardback rulebook, four free miniatures (Uhtred, Finnan, a general on foot to match your mounted general and finally Danilo Cruz), a mounted general and an encounter host, worth between £265 and £325 at recommended retail price!

Thus, "THE SWEET SPOT" contains everything you'll need to start playing games of Darklands, and at a huge discount too - almost 45% in most circumstances and over 50% if you go for the larger encounter hosts!

We will of course put this in a big update tomorrow with some nice graphics. Until then, enjoy!

More Eirann!!!!!

In for The Sweet Spot in hopes we see Byzantii make it into an Encounter Host.