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Well, in case you guys thought I was dead or sick of this thread or both, I thought I'd give you an update for where I'm up to at the moment.

I must say, I'm thoroughly sick of working on walker, I spent most of Monday trying to model a mini warhound style beast for the 3rd in the walkie vindicator sequence, and just packed it in. I've worn that puppy out.

So now, to link it a bit with the baneblade I'll be packing into the box I have built a variant vindicator tank, which I made out of the big head and the card leman russ on the left of the pic:



Here is where I am up to, sans chains and rivets and spikes and other type chaosy dangerous stuff:




On the side and on the front of the model you'll notice big green blobs, these are amorphous eyes protruding from the shell of the beast demonstrating how the daemonic host sees...through the cracks in the sides of the vehicle caused by it trying to burst through...

The angling on the cannon looks a little weird. Even if the cannon proper is going to point straight forward, the mounting ought to be such that it allows a higher angle shot. The way it is now, it seems designed to allow the tank to fire a shell right into the ground in front of it, and I don't know why it would want to do that.

That's probably the angle of the shot, it's not actually that extreme. It has a slight upward angle to it. Truth be told, it really only needs 24" range anyways, which wouldn't need a whole lot of angle...

That'll teach me to get behind on this thread. Love the second walker. Damn. That thing is so lovely and gothic. Not sure what could be cooler for 40K. Damn!

Well, I don't think the final 2 vindicators are amazing but who cares, they're good enough for my frazzled creative glands... All I really need area a few more of the chaos spikey bits from spikey vehicle sprues to finish it but I couldn't be bothered chasing any up...oh well...it still does the job.

Man I am so creatively burnt out for the moment - that means only one thing - it's almost painting time! !!!The crowd goes wild!!!

And here's the current pics of the army as it stands now. All I really need to complete it are 2 things. 3 chaos rhinos and the completed baneblade. I gotta get more spikey bits for that!!! And skulls!!! And.........inspiration........

When I said walker, I meant the big tall guys. Paint on these will be excellent.

Looking good, I'll keep an eye on this one.

scarab wrote:When I said walker, I meant the big tall guys.

Lol, sorry, I was making a generic statement about my latest vindicators...no probs...

I am actually pretty impressed with how the second upright defiler came out. It surprised me a bit coz I don't normally like those little pinheads on these things. I may find a large head to use insted in the near future, but till then I'm pretty happy with it.

I <3 Tank Killer Vindi. So simple and awesome.

Get to painting this army sir!! We can't take it any longer!

Ok, well this isn't much of a blog post, but it's an indication of my success with my shortcut attempts!

Here are the problems I faced using silver undercoat:

1. Loss of details - metallic spray would be thicker in my mind
2. Gloss only available - getting the paint to stick
3. Affecting other paint going over it - enamel (shouldn't be an issue) and metallic (shining through)

So I have had success in all three areas!

1. Loss of detail - dulux silver is fine, just don't spray too much and it covers BETTER than white or black undercoat due to the paint pigmentation and it needs less paint
2. Add more detergent than I normally do to destroy the surface tension. This is only really necessary for the first couple of layers to get the paint something to adhere to
3. Inevitably this will have some bearing but at least it's a spray and I won't be getting as much cross contamination in the other paints. I'll just need to watch my layers, but it should actually work out better than normal because, being a spray, there's no chance of contaminating the wrong paint water and getting flecks in the opaque non metallic paints.

So it's all good and I'll be undercoating TONIGHT ready for painting tomorrow - I hope -

I still have a few details to add to the two newest vindicators, so I'll leave the undercoating of those for a little while until I get them totally finished.

And here's evidence of my success - not much going on yet, but you'll see more soon enough my fellow modelgamers!

ROIGHT! This weeks work; picture speaks a thousand words:













Nuff said.

The ink works out very well I wished I'd see more IW painted like this then black basecoat and silver drybrushed. I am a bit surprised no Baneblade walker?

hmmm....baneblade walker

Yeah, I'm over building walkers for now. Time for big grindy tanks!

Just a quick teaser: here is where I was up to at lunch time, just before I started the weathering. Hopefully tomorrow will see the completion of the first squad of troops.

Yayie construction worker guys! Looks like you did the yellow covering very well it is always a pain.

Awww man, you need a few Sgt's with the helmetless heads I hate, and put yellow hard hats on them. Inscribe "Bob" on one of them. You know, something for the kids.

The yellow looks great though. Did you use Foundation paint for the yellow and build up, or some Vallejo magic?

Edit: not that I hate your marine's bare heads in particular, I just have never liked the idea of "Hai, I iz impotant. I'z gonna takes off mah hatz, cuz it cool!" in a situation where there is all manner of shrapnel and laser pointers flashing around.

in case it wasn't said enough already, your defiler couple is the most bad-a## chaos thing I've ever seen.

Wehrkind wrote:The yellow looks great though. Did you use Foundation paint for the yellow and build up, or some Vallejo magic?

Was wondering the same thing. Gib Ansars!!

Well, the yellows are simply VGC Gold Yellow layered on till it's covered well enough to look good. No real tricks other than watering it down and perseverance. I only use one type of paint, it's just easier for me coz I don't like stuffing around with other paints. I've tried the P3s, the Derivan Minis, the GW but I personally keep coming back to the Vallejos. I like em, they work well in my style.

Here we go, this was finished off on Thursday, but things have been so full on lately I haven't had a chance to take and post the pics for you guys. So here they are, they're not amazing photos but they give you a good idea of what they look like now.







The other thing is, these have been now varnished, but I need to add a few layers of gloss clear over the lava, with some glazes of reds and yellows to add to the "heat" appearance a bit.

2 more batches of 12 to go, then onto something else - maybe terminators

I really like the paint here ^_^. So fast and simple in the execution that it's making me think I could do up an army of these guys someday ^_-. At the very least a skirmish squad, expect this idea stolen.

I'm a huge Vallejo fan now myself. And I've only the US Paint Set from FoW right now. I really need to go snag a whole lot more of their paints.

I would (personally) like to see some rust action going on. But I could also be missing some detail from the photos here.

God I want to play against this army ^_^.

I call that army BAM: Bad AXX Mother

Amazing work. I especially like the small-headed chicken walker.
I have to ask though, how long have you been painting minis?
*Jealous*

Just thought I should say-----Brilliant! I think that looks fantastic.


How much in materials? How many hours? How much will you love using it once it's finished-priceless.

Green stuff with envy mate. Good job.

My first post on this forum is to compliment you on those Iron Warriors. Loved seeing your process; makes me reconsider the base-job I did for my Salamanders. Man, army #2 is gonna go sooooo much faster!

Well, I've been painting for about 2 or 3 years, I used to paint over 10 years ago but just stopped till a few years ago.

This army has now taken me ... ooooh ... 160hours so far? Maybe at a rough estimate...

Glad you guys are enjoying the blog

Well, here we go! I've finally finished the main painting of the base troops and havocs. All that is left after the varnish is to gloss the lava with several layers of Tamiya clear, and then they'll all be done. I'm not going to town on the rust effects and stuff and details because these are the base troops. The more intense effects will begin once I get that far on the terminators and such.

Here's what the table looked like this arvo before I took the models to get varnished:



Here's the pics of what I've done so far; 36 troops with various weapons:











Enjoy!

I'm going to be the dissenting opinion here and give you some constructive criticism.

IMHO, while you have achieved a nice shade of yellow, the all silver/yellow/blue secheme you've stuck with gives the army a very three-color-and-done look, especially from a far.

I really, really think you need to pick something on the models, horns, hair, something, anything and paint it a different color to break up this look from a distance.


I will also say that I really think you should have painted black under the areas you were going to paint yellow, and then left a tiny sliver of black showing between the yellow and the silver, especially with the stripes on the shoulderpads.

Those shoulder pad stripes don't benefit from the natural contour of the armor to seperate the tone from the silver like the rest of the yellow areas on the models so the stripes look very thin and half-done.


Of course, as always, your bases look amazing and up close the models do look great, its just that from a distance the army all kind of blends into a silver/yellow blur.

Anyway, that's my advice, take it for what it is.

Great progress again.

I think this will be an army of uber cool big things and decent looking infantry to support it.

For me personally the biggest problem now with the troops is their overall scheme in relation to the basing. There isn't enough contrast and the warm, rich glow of the lava totally steals the show, while it's difficult to tell where the silver changes to grey stone, and the yellow, while nice and worn lacks the visual punch of the lava. The individuality in painting doesn't quite meet the level in conversions.

Personally I think the boys look pretty damn awesome, though the comments above have merit, particularly because you did such a head-explodingly sweet job on Rip compared to these (again, awesome conversions) CSM.

Also awesome? I can see your pics at work - no more photobucket block

- Salvage

I agree, a little bit of different color would make them stand out a little more. I didn't really notice it until I forgot to minimize the window before leaving my desk (bad worker bee!) and on the walk back, I didn't know what I was looking at immediately. Maybe red eye lenses or something, I don't know. I tend to use purity seals and lenses to break up the monotony on mine, which obviously doesn't apply here, so I am at a loss.
They really look great though; I rather feel like I am pointing out to DaVinci "Missed a spot." I have to agree with Yak though, they need that certain special something.