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Heh. mostly the spider Lemming. The Bipedal thing is always neat, but the spider is spot on awesome.

Perhaps a good way to go with the Ripley 2 is a more organic look, perhaps an almost Nurgle-esque level of demonic possession. More skin and bio looking parts fused with the machine. Or perhaps more overt use of humans wired into it, either as fire control (sort of uber servitors) or in little glass pods off the shoulders used for power. Something like that might set it apart a bit from it's big sister while still maintaining the techno-monster look you are so admirably creating.

A quick note before I get back to work - What do you think of this:

I have to say I don't care for it. The head just looks really silly, kind of like some sort of 1940's cartoon character. I'm assuming the arms won't be droopy like that either, right? Because they look pretty awkward as well.

But I do love the torso and legs!

I've been looking at this thing all arvo and I can't get started or any fresh ideas...even with the concept which indicates I've got a bit of creative block. To help alleviate this and waste no more time, I've decided to simply stick to the Ripley design and just do the weapon variations and maybe a different styled CCW instead. Save the monsterbot for another project at another time...

More to come tomorrow when I get back on track.

Posted By Lemmingspawn on 10/30/2007 9:18 PM
A quick note before I get back to work - What do you think of this:

I think the cannon needs to be shoulder or chest mounted as opposed to neck mounted. Also, the left arm looks one segment too long, it's almost down to its foot.

Also, what is the black thing surrounding the left-hand plastic shoulder?

The black things on the shoulders are wheels off a Crushgear toy. I got some real cheap a while ago, since they're such a crap idea, but great for some conversion ideas...

Both of the arms are actually the same size as the legs, and just full Defiler claws. It's just coz it's hanging and the angle of the shot that makes them look that long. It's ok anyways, I think it's kinda funky with the arms like this, but I'm rebuilding it Ripley-esque instead. It's easier that way and I don't wanna burn myself out creatively on this army. I did that with my 3.5k of orks and now I still can't get back to painting them!!!

Alien Resurrection Ripley FTW!!! (Read the book she's even creepier - She even telepathically communicates with the aliens ^_^)

I like the Heavy Mantis arm look, A lot. Perhaps something Insectoid for the head, ala Nurgle Marines or 80's Decepticon Transformers.

Don't fizz out! This project is awesome!!!

Usi

Posted By Lemmingspawn on 10/31/2007 5:39 AM
The black things on the shoulders are wheels off a Crushgear toy. I got some real cheap a while ago, since they're such a crap idea, but great for some conversion ideas...

Both of the arms are actually the same size as the legs, and just full Defiler claws. It's just coz it's hanging and the angle of the shot that makes them look that long. It's ok anyways, I think it's kinda funky with the arms like this, but I'm rebuilding it Ripley-esque instead. It's easier that way and I don't wanna burn myself out creatively on this army. I did that with my 3.5k of orks and now I still can't get back to painting them!!!

Might it have been this http://www.tisinc99.com/crusgeargaik.html one by any chance?

Actually, I think it has potential. I would hunch it forward a bit, with one of the claws on the ground. I am thinking sort of a gorilla sort of look. Then for the battle cannon head, build a wolfish skull around it, with the cannon coming out of the mouth. Then instead of it being at a roughly 90 degree angle from the chest, have it pointing forward off a stocky neck attached to the now ~45 degree torso.

Might work.

I like it. Much more so than the chicken design that wasn't my cup of tea. The arms are akward, but if they are posed more aggressively "the wrongness" of the joints is very chaose and possible good as a consequence. Yeah. I think I like it. I say go for it.

I've been playing around with this and here is a cannon stand in I'm working on.  The plan is to make it like a huge rate of fire minigun style weapon with explosive shells, that will count as a defiler cannon in all ways.  I am going to replace the current barrels with an assault cannon style set with some shielding and other differences.

I think I'll go with the arm mounted idea instead of the shoulder mounted, but have a look at the two designs and let me know what you reckon.




Or shoulder:




BTW, if I did the shoulder part it wouldn't have that arm section sticking up in the air like that...lol

I think the shoulder is ok, but in the pics the arm mounted one grabs me more.  I like how the cannon is coming along though, the details are finally getting easier on this part...

I think the arm mounted gets you closer to the concept pic you posted. The shoulder mounted looks really cool too though. Sort of a throwback to the Hunchback from BTech ^_-.

Very ED209 ^_^

I think arm mounted makes more sense, I picture it sweeping it across oncoming infantry. That would seem awkward on a shoulder mount.

Mantis for the other arm?

Usi

I agree on the arm mounted as well, it gives the vehicle a better since of mobility in it's firing.

Well, since everyone is clamoring for my attention and dying in droves because I haven't updated this log in ...4days... I guess I'd better show something.

ANYHOO!  Back to reality - I've decided I hate working on this defiler and the sooner it's finished the better.  SO!  That means that the job has been finished, no questions asked coz I couldn't be AR$ED to do any more conversion work on it.  This will do I think.  So happy or not, this is what it is!    I tried adding chains but I couldn't do anything I was happy with , so it's another chainless beast.  But it is very spikey.  Very spikey and trophied (not atrophied) is good.

I figured the head wouldn't be too bad on this one, and I do like how it works, although I WILL have to name it Conan the Destroyer (Destroyer for short) given it's massive pinhead look.





And a family shot of Conan with Ripley:


Don't they make a lovely couple?

The final fitout of this one is Defiler cannon, Twin linked Lascannons and Havoc Launcher.  For those hankerin for a shoulder mounted gun, there it is!  For those yearning for a chest mounted weapon, there be ye lasers!

It ties in really well with ripley, especially with all that spikey-goodness. Plenty of similarities, as well as differences in those two defilers.
the pose is more static than ripleys, but the head makes it work well. looks like hes jus lookin for what to destroy next.
Cool stuff, looking forward to more chaos-goodness.

Looks good, but I can never make a solid comment on anything you do until I see the paint tie it all together ^_-.

He's got a very leisurely stroll look to him. Which is just arrogant enough to work for chaos!

I hate the head. If it were scaled up to maybe half again as big, it might not be bad, but a pin head on a giant machine like that just looks wierd. I really like how Ripley doesn't have a head as such, more of just a focal point area in the chest. I think that perhaps the Ripley two would look better if the head were set down into the chest, sort of like how terminator armor works. Or if it had a bigger head. Or no head.

In otherwords, everything is awesome. Except the head.

Inspirational work again mate. It's almost too "standardised design" looking next to it's brother - but the design is so cool who cares.

Out of interest, how long does it take you to build one??

Yeah, I knew some people would feel a bit that way. I wanted to upscale it but like I say, I'm tired of working on it now so the head stays. I don't hate it myself, I just wish I could get a bigger one without spending umpteen hours on it, coz this defiler is starting to bore me a bit. And if I spend more time on it, I might get sick of the entire army and we don't want that!!



Ripley took me about 50 odd hours, Conan took me about 20. In both instances I spent a part of that just trying to design the arms...sometimes it's a pain in the royal rectal to scratchbuild some of these things coz you gotta start with nothing, design it and then come fit it out so it looks cool...

Excellent delivery. Hope to see it painted soon.

BTW where is the saw blade from?

Man, go to Wal-Mart, enter the toy section, find some random He-Man figure or something, buy it, decapitate it, send me the receipt with a picture of the new head attached, and I will send you cash to cover it. The little tiny head just looks comical on the giant body.
Sure, maybe a fantastic paint job will pull it all together, but still, I keep getting that song about a witch doctor shrinking heads going through mine, and since I can't remember it clearly, it is peeling back the thin skin of reality that surrounds my consciousness.

Walmart would be an INCREDIBLY long trip for me...I'm in Australia and there ain't no such animal here!  Although I will keep in mind what kind of heads there are around that I might use for the defiler.  We'll see what turns up.

Here's what I've done today, just used the defiler leftovers and made a little Vindicator walker number 2.





It'll do the job and it's not too bad.  I almost converted it to another CC defiler, but I'll keep it as a possessed vindicator.  Roughly the same points cost anyways...

lovely stuff man! the bases are inspiring and tha anatomy of the ´filers is awsome.
keep it up!

Since its possessed, id like to see a hellofalot more chains on that thing. yanno, to keep the evil in or whatever. at the miment it looks abit plain compared to the rest of the madness!

I weep tears of blood at how awesomly evil this your army is.   Now I just need to kidnap you and chain you in the basement so make stuff like this for me....

Posted By Lemmingspawn on 11/05/2007 10:46 PM

I think it looks great. I don't mind the head at all.

To me though, the pose is the best bit. He looks like he's just seen a new target as he was taking a step forward with his right leg after killing something else. Very characterful.

BYE

I agree, and should have said so before: The pose is really cool. Looking at it just makes me think "F-CK! It's seen me!"

I love the arachnid feel of the defilers. I really think that adds to the disturbing nature of them, and not just because I don't like spiders.

Bonus points if you replace the head with a wallaby skull!

Lol a real skull is a cool idea but wallaby? Too big dude! I am keeping an eye out for some other head that will fit the bill if I can find something. For now pinhead will do.

Thanks for the comments, guys! I know I've said it already but this is one fun army to build. Now I just need to get it all undercoated and painted. Oh, and build one more Vindicator... That might have to wait...

Gotta chim in and say this log is freaking insane, really the best that Chaos Space Marines can be. Buckets of beautiful evil on every page, from all those converted marines to ripley and beyond.

You the man, Lemm

- Salvage