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Thanks Jabba you're a life saver figuratively speaking. The are certain perspectives of this model that are never displayed and it's a pity that all that detail is never seen. Someone went to a lot of trouble designing something that almost looks as if it would work. (Although the mentality behind a fifty foot tall target on a battlefield is certainly suspect.)

I'll try to get the bottom done this evening; then it's servo time.

EB

Here's the bottom ready for paint. The first thing actually finished on this titan.

Maybe there will be an end after all.

EB

Thx Jabba

@Blackladder:

That is very detailed plasticard work o_o

but everytime i see work THIS GOOD of a quality , i cant but help be saddened . With such skills why not create something not made yet by GW or FW?

* i would suggest some super cool giant mecha but im not familiar with warhammer fluff .

My pleasure to help, I want to see this thing completed. I hate to sound like a parrot, but your work is top notch. Not only are many people going to think it's a FW when you're done, but even aficionados will have a hard time picking it out from a line up.

OMG how do you do that detail?!?

deadly chicken wrote:OMG how do you do that detail?!?

I'm going to have some pictures to go with this text but basically I use four cutting tools and a wooden cuttingboard.

1. # 11 1/4" exacto knife
2. 1/2" exacto chisel blade
3. Deep bladed exacto razor saw
4. Stanley Utility knife

I also have two 6" scales metric/32nd inches and 32nd/64th inches, a combination square, a digital vernier caliper which I rarely use, medium and fine sandpaper, some needle files pinvise and extremely small drill bits. a rarely use Dremel.

and a large supply of plastic card stock.

EB

lol.

deadly chicken wrote:OMG how do you do that detail?!?

Detail is a subjective quality. What works for one person is not enough or too much for another. I don't pursue excessive detail; I find the new Games Workshop Baneblade much too busy. The high relief rivets and Gothic arch altars (even on the headlight for goodness sakes!) do not appeal to my sense of aesthetics. Now the Lucius Pattern Baneblade is a true work of art embodying anachronistic details and pre-WWII technology. The added armour adds character to the model. The Mars pattern B'blade is drab and uninteresting IMHO.

The Lucius pattern Warhound seems to me the right design for this particular vehicle. The Mars pattern is just too fancy for my taste however I think the Chaos Warhound captures just the right essence for that Baroque style army.

My infatuation with the Warhound design forces me to try to approximate the detail in virtually every respect and right now I am in the process of manufacturing the ankle pistons and cylinders. I hope to have images posted later this week as I have seven of the required ten completed. When attached they will be able to telescope as the legs are posed and give new depth to this fabulous design.

The increasingly verbose Blackadder

Sometimes you have to think outside the box. The individual who invented the sewing machine after many had tried and failed did so by the inspired idea of putting the needle eye at the other end of the needle. That was truly genius and a prime example of outside the box thinking.

To a much lesser degree my own little triumph of making a functional telescoping servo cylinder that was not too bulky and yet in keeping with the overall design of the Warhound pales in comparison. Yet I am very proud of this minor victory and am going to share the fruits of my endeavor.

I wanted a spherical bearing to mount the cylinder and piston to the ankle and foot pad as on the production model but with the additional feature of a full range of movement. After a good deal of searching I found 3/32 bead ended pins that fit the bill perfectly.

Drilling a 3/32 hole in 2.5mm plastic card just to a point where the drill bit just starts to penetrate the opposite side gives a perfect bearing cup for the bead to sit in. Gluing on a cover piece captures the ball and I cut off the excess to form the bearing housing.

next I drilled a 1/16th hole in the housing until it touched the captured bead. I glued a 1/16 plasticcard rod into this hole and cut off all but a 1/4 inch or so.

I glued a sleeve of 1/8th plasticard tubing over the pin and that is the basis for the entire construction.

Blackadder

The pictures are overexposed D--- I'll have to take more later today. You may be able to get an idea from these anyway.

Blackadder

Lanky-feck wrote:The builds looking ace and im thinking that the colours when painted will be awesome.

I hope you won't be disappointed but I have a penchant for greys and black. We have already decided (my son and I) on a camouflage colour scheme of grey and dark grey which is in keeping with the rest of his army. I'll try to punch it up with some brass and gold for the ancillary accoutrements but there it is.

Grey is a colour too Ya know,

The monochromatic Blackadder


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LunaHound wrote:
@Blackladder:

That is very detailed plasticard work o_o

but everytime i see work THIS GOOD of a quality , i cant but help be saddened . With such skills why not create something not made yet by GW or FW?

* i would suggest some super cool giant mecha but im not familiar with warhammer fluff .

One shouldn't confuse the ability to copy with creative genius. I have done some painting, portraits and the like all of which are using photographs for models but to create a painting from scratch is beyond my abilities. Likewise in modeling, I am at best a copier and a technician; creativity is beyond my purview.

The decidedly limited Blackadder


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In studying this image I've just realized it is configured differently from other Warhounds built by FW. This is obviously a FW production model and one showcased by either GW or FW probably at a show but the engine fan cowl or cover is mounted backwards and too far forward so that the front is even with the front of the hull. Was this a mistake in assembly or an alternative configuration?

How could such a mistake be made unless intentional as it would throw off all the internal hull components including the position of the servitors in the carapace.

One thing I will not be adorning my model with is that prominent skull emblem which looks to me for all the world like an evil clown face.

Blackadder

The_Blackadder wrote:

deadly chicken wrote:OMG how do you do that detail?!?

Detail is a subjective quality. What works for one person is not enough or too much for another. I don't pursue excessive detail; I find the new Games Workshop Baneblade much too busy. The high relief rivets and Gothic arch altars (even on the headlight for goodness sakes!) do not appeal to my sense of aesthetics. Now the Lucius Pattern Baneblade is a true work of art embodying anachronistic details and pre-WWII technology. The added armour adds character to the model. The Mars pattern B'blade is drab and uninteresting IMHO.

The Lucius pattern Warhound seems to me the right design for this particular vehicle. The Mars pattern is just too fancy for my taste however I think the Chaos Warhound captures just the right essence for that Baroque style army.

My infatuation with the Warhound design forces me to try to approximate the detail in virtually every respect and right now I am in the process of manufacturing the ankle pistons and cylinders. I hope to have images posted later this week as I have seven of the required ten completed. When attached they will be able to telescope as the legs are posed and give new depth to this fabulous design.

The increasingly verbose Blackadder

I like how you take this hobby to a philosophical level. Cheers!

In studying this image I've just realized it is configured differently from other Warhounds built by FW. This is obviously a FW production model and one showcased by either GW or FW probably at a show but the engine fan cowl or cover is mounted backwards and too far forward so that the front is even with the front of the hull. Was this a mistake in assembly or an alternative configuration?

How could such a mistake be made unless intentional as it would throw off all the internal hull components including the position of the servitors in the carapace.

You could mount it backwards, this would allow you to move the piece with the top door hatch to behind the vent assembly. I don't know why anyone would do that, maybe just to be different. But it wouldn't muck mutch with what is below the hull.

Where, and how do you get all this plastic card?!



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And paitience

I hope you will forgive this tawdry display of self-satisfaction but after so many long months of planning this project and the numerous setbacks regarding improper scale etc, I am fair bursting with pride now that I've actually completed the foot hydraulics and they actually work (meaning that they follow the leg movements not move the legs). I had to share this moment of triumph with you.
Actually only the left foot cylinders are completely installed so I have to support the body and take the picture at the same time so your pardon if some of the images came out a tad blurry.

Blackadder


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jabbakahut wrote:

The_Blackadder wrote:

Detail is a subjective quality. What works for one person is not enough or too much for another. I yada yada yada...................

I like how you take this hobby to a philosophical level. Cheers!

Just following in your footsteps with even a Martini in my hand yet.

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The poster is not responsible for any of the above statements as he is in celebration mode with a double Martini.

Blackadder

Nice now get riveting

Looks great.

No doubt it feels good to hold it in your hand and know that you have brought the little bundle into the world!

Wow! This looks awesome

I know that for me, by now I'd say it's time to get painting . But rivets would be a mighty fine addition this beast, too, if you had a few smurfs to put them on

I've got warhound titan templates for paper craft, and I was actually thinking how to make it more dynamic and I basically had all the same idea's you've had, and now I'm jealous that I didn't write about it sooner (Only just found this thread today) and amazing work so far, keep it up!

Congrats on great progress. Im digging the detailing. Most scratch builds are so bland and empty. This isnt. Keep it up.

Oh, and big thanks to Jabba for the detail photos. Im saving those for when I go back to work on my own doggy.

Werdes wrote:Nice now get riveting

RiTides Nids wrote:Wow! This looks awesome

I know that for me, by now I'd say it's time to get painting . But rivets would be a mighty fine addition this beast, too, if you had a few smurfs to put them on

Actually if you look really close at the ring around the foot socket there are the required number of rivets which were shaved from .032" rod, picked up with the tip of a #11 exacto fine blade and glued on with super thin plastic glue. I hope they show up better when it's painted.

I've been adding rivets all along especially on the waist component; they're just really hard to see white on white.

No smurfs were conscripted in this effort,

Blackadder

The waist cylinders are done and temporarily mounted. Except for the detail they are complete. The model has become too heavy to stand on it's own without suspension wires. Once the joints are glued I'm hoping it will and still be posable. It's taken quite a beating in the past few days with assembling and disasembling to fit parts and I managed to break a few toes. Nothing serious and I'll be reworking the toes anyhow.

So here's the project as it stands at this moment and thanks to all for the support as I might have given up without your huzzahs.

Blackadder

My word that is impressive, you should list all parts, and make more of a step by step guide on how to create this monster of a scratch build.

Because I will not be building my titan until this monster is finished, and I highly doubt I'd even post it, I would be ashamed to post it on the same forums as this beast.

Good luck explaining to people how this is a scratchbuild, and not an actual resin FW model once it has paint on it

karmaiko wrote:Good luck explaining to people how this is a scratchbuild, and not an actual resin FW model once it has paint on it

I appreciate the compliment but there are numerous differences between this and a standard production model. I streamlined the generator pods on the back of the carapace, added an overhang above the tubular link couplings between them. changed the profile of the carapace skirt in the back where I thought the original looked a bit small. I flatten the hull unintentionally as my original images were distorted in perspective but it seems to have worked out okay. But the most prominent feature is that mine is fully posable and the ball in socket joints are of such a close tolerance fit that they pop when installed and removed. FW's magnificant effort is a one shot deal you pose it, glue it together and there it is for eternity.

I still want a FW Chaos Warhound,

E.B.


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SgtPunishment wrote:My word that is impressive, you should list all parts,

As for the parts, all thus far have been scratch built. I don't see any off the shelf components in my frequent searches of the local hobby stores.

and make more of a step by step guide on how to create this monster of a scratch build.

I thought this was a step by step guide. Egad, was I in error???

Because I will not be building my titan until this monster is finished, and I highly doubt I'd even post it, I would be ashamed to post it on the same forums as this beast.

Come, come; We all can't be manic obsessives:

"Definition: While depression is the most common psychiatric problem in HD, a smaller number of patients will become manic, displaying elevated or irritable mood, overactivity, decreased need for sleep, impulsiveness, and grandiosity."

I frequently awake at 3:00 AM and start working on this model until it's time go to work to earn a living. I would hate to be the cause of you not posting your noble effort.

I am looking forward to following your impending thread,

The Blackadder

I can't tell, do you actually have the vent fins on the feet? And there are a bunch of rivits on the ankles above the ball joint, and even the hip joints. Do you need shots of those? And behind the knee joint is lacking in detail compared to the FW model. It's amazing that you have the little plackards on the pistons behind the thigh.

The_Blackadder wrote:

SgtPunishment wrote:My word that is impressive, you should list all parts,

As for the parts, all thus far have been scratch built. I don't see any off the shelf components in my frequent searches of the local hobby stores.

and make more of a step by step guide on how to create this monster of a scratch build.

I thought this was a step by step guide. Egad, was I in error???

Because I will not be building my titan until this monster is finished, and I highly doubt I'd even post it, I would be ashamed to post it on the same forums as this beast.

Come, come; We all can't be manic obsessives:

"Definition: While depression is the most common psychiatric problem in HD, a smaller number of patients will become manic, displaying elevated or irritable mood, overactivity, decreased need for sleep, impulsiveness, and grandiosity."

I frequently awake at 3:00 AM and start working on this model until it's time go to work to earn a living. I would hate to be the cause of you not posting your noble effort.

I am looking forward to following your impending thread,

The Blackadder

I'm sorry about the way the post came across, it was in jest about me not posting my project, I'm just currently finishing off about 2840 points worth of dark angels before I start on my titan, it won't take me long, just batch painting all the models really...

but once everything is done I will be starting my titan, and I'll be working on it for 2 hours a day, and if I keep to the projected schedule, it should take me a month to finish it from start to table top ready, admittedly, it's going to be a generic static posed one, but once I've got this one out of the way, I will be working on a titan a bit like yours (more dynamic, and some detail, like rivets / wires etc)

jabbakahut wrote:I can't tell, do you actually have the vent fins on the feet? And there are a bunch of rivits on the ankles above the ball joint, and even the hip joints. Do you need shots of those? And behind the knee joint is lacking in detail compared to the FW model. It's amazing that you have the little plackards on the pistons behind the thigh.

Yes the vent louvers are there but for some reason beyond the resolution of my antique digital camera. They will probably show up better when they are painted and highlighted.

I've still a lot of detail to add to the legs and I'm willing to attempt installing rivets down to 0.25mm but no smaller. I have a box of details I have yet to put on as I installed the side vents on the lower leg section too early and had to drill holes in them for the piston mounts. I'll not be putting the cart before the horse again if I can help it. I have the scrolls made for in front of the knee joint but I'll have to look at what you mean by behind the knee joint. I'd appreciate any images you can provide if not too much trouble and thanks for the offer.

Strange no one has mentioned the wooden axles in the joints. I hope to be able to cover those soon with the proper end caps.

Blackadder

Amazing work, I only wish I had the skill and patience....

The_Blackadder wrote:

karmaiko wrote:Good luck explaining to people how this is a scratchbuild, and not an actual resin FW model once it has paint on it

I appreciate the compliment but there are numerous differences between this and a standard production model. I streamlined the generator pods on the back of the carapace, added an overhang above the tubular link couplings between them. changed the profile of the carapace skirt in the back where I thought the original looked a bit small. I flatten the hull unintentionally as my original images were distorted in perspective but it seems to have worked out okay. But the most prominent feature is that mine is fully posable and the ball in socket joints are of such a close tolerance fit that they pop when installed and removed. FW's magnificant effort is a one shot deal you pose it, glue it together and there it is for eternity.

I still want a FW Chaos Warhound,

E.B.

There, words put to shame. But you'll have to memorize the differenses for when its painted...

Great work!

Azmo