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Ahtman wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

dogma wrote:[
No, they didn't. I understand that you only care about how certain ideas make you feel inside, but please make at least some attempt to make factual claims.

Good to see your level of debate is at its usual high level.

I see you are as well, by just quoting the cheeky response but not the part that followed that was the actual rebuttal. It is almost like you want to make it seem as if he just said something snarky without also being useful. It was both useful and snarky.

The stoning has been set aside due to international pressure.

Useful in an OT thread...
The flogging was done. If she's still alive the potential death sentence is still up in the air. Again, thats if she's still alive. Its my undertstanding that few live.

I wasn't insinuating that she was in the clear because they decided not to stone her to death. She is still pretty screwed, but that has been true for a long time, having the good luck to be born a woman in Iran.

Ahtman wrote:I wasn't insinuating that she was in the clear because they decided not to stone her to death. She is still pretty screwed, but that has been true for a long time, having the good luck to be born a woman in Iran.

True Dat. If Only Underdog were here, he would know what to do. Alternatively, the zombie corpse of Patton riding the zombie corpse of a Pershing tank. If history is any indication, no one has ever withstood the armored charge of Zombie Patton.

Guitardian wrote:So does anyone know for sure if this poor woman was whipped and stoned to death, or if they called it off in the name of humanitarian outrages from the world community?

The whipping has been reported as being carried out, but there are reports that the woman in question has stated she wasn't flogged. Stoning has been taken off the table, but pending review she might still be hung.

The U.S. major news networks haven't TOUCHED this at all. Perhaps this is so as not to cause a "we hate Iran" mob mentality at a time when we really want some kind of peace over there.

It's getting pretty steady coverage over here. It's in most news bulletins on the non-commercial media carriers. Commercial carriers aren't showing much interest, in part because there's stories of shonky traders that are much more important to idiots, and in part because there's no attached vision.

Frazzled wrote:
Good to see your level of debate is at its usual high level.

I'm sorry that I called you out for basing you opinions on feelings and not facts. I've done this in perfectly civil ways before, but the last time I completely refrained from snark you concluded that I was arguing without purpose. At this point I think the real problem is that you don't like having your opinion questioned, which leads me to wonder why you bother voicing it at all.


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Guitardian wrote:
The U.S. major news networks haven't TOUCHED this at all. Perhaps this is so as not to cause a "we hate Iran" mob mentality at a time when we really want some kind of peace over there.

I saw it covered on CNN today. Honestly though, I'm surprised its gotten as much attention as it has. It isn't like this is the first time this sort of thing has happened. Its more severe than what usually happens in Iran, but I think that's because of the connection to murder charges.

dogma wrote:

Frazzled wrote:
Good to see your level of debate is at its usual high level.

I'm sorry that I called you out for basing you opinions on feelings and not facts. I've done this in perfectly civil ways before, but the last time I completely refrained from snark you concluded that I was arguing without purpose. At this point I think the real problem is that you don't like having your opinion questioned, which leads me to wonder why you bother voicing it at all.

As you don't actually post anywhere but the OT, I wonder why you post here as well.

Frazzled wrote:

Ahtman wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

dogma wrote:[
No, they didn't. I understand that you only care about how certain ideas make you feel inside, but please make at least some attempt to make factual claims.

Good to see your level of debate is at its usual high level.

I see you are as well, by just quoting the cheeky response but not the part that followed that was the actual rebuttal. It is almost like you want to make it seem as if he just said something snarky without also being useful. It was both useful and snarky.

The stoning has been set aside due to international pressure.

Useful in an OT thread...
The flogging was done. If she's still alive the potential death sentence is still up in the air. Again, thats if she's still alive. Its my undertstanding that few live.

It's my understanding that she was flogged 99 times when she was originally taken into custody. She survived that. This would be a second flogging, if it actually happened.

Attention all citizens: The floggings will continue until morale improves.

Frazzled wrote:
As you don't actually post anywhere but the OT, I wonder why you post here as well.

You post outside the OT forum? I mean, I'm not going to parse your entire posting history, but the first two pages of it show only 5 examples non-OT posting.

Regardless, I'm not wondering why you post here, there are too many variables to consider. I'm wondering why you have such emotive responses to political issues that you clearly have no knowledge of.

We post because we can, don't we? I don't post in the gallery or painting forums for lack of a camera. I only occasionally post in some army list adice or give someone props for a model they display that I particularly like, but I don't feel any less of a contributor for that.

There is nothing wrong with being far more interested in random 'off-topic' debates and idea-slinging, when 'on topic' usually involves either painting showcases, army lists, or rules clarifications for a game that has no relevance in our thoughts other than that it is fun.

The cool thing about geek-site forums is that most of the people who write on them, no matter what the topic, are extremely intelligent, good debaters, have interesting insights about all sorts of things, both gaming and non-gaming related. No reason to give Frazz a hard time for preferring random political discussions and philosophical sparring matches over "does this work in my 2000 point ork list for the upcoming tournament".

Hey at first I couldn't stand the guy and he couldn't stand me when we first started the OT sparring over all sorts of topics.... political philosophies differential or something. Nowadays I love the insights from reading other people's thoughts. When you read and discuss/debate so many different opinions on different topics all posted by a community of usually educated and intelligent and opinionated points of view, nothing bad can come of that.

This is not an attempt to kiss a mod's ass by defending him, just to appreciate that crazy debates and offhand subject changes and wild out there points of view are something to be valued by any reader, not some reason to downplay someone because of which topics he chooses to post about.

Guitardian wrote:We post because we can, don't we? I don't post in the gallery or painting forums for lack of a camera. I only occasionally post in some army list adice or give someone props for a model they display that I particularly like, but I don't feel any less of a contributor for that.

There is nothing wrong with being far more interested in random 'off-topic' debates and idea-slinging, when 'on topic' usually involves either painting showcases, army lists, or rules clarifications for a game that has no relevance in our thoughts other than that it is fun.

The cool thing about geek-site forums is that most of the people who write on them, no matter what the topic, are extremely intelligent, good debaters, have interesting insights about all sorts of things, both gaming and non-gaming related. No reason to give Frazz a hard time for preferring random political discussions and philosophical sparring matches over "does this work in my 2000 point ork list for the upcoming tournament".

Hey at first I couldn't stand the guy and he couldn't stand me when we first started the OT sparring over all sorts of topics.... political philosophies differential or something. Nowadays I love the insights from reading other people's thoughts. When you read and discuss/debate so many different opinions on different topics all posted by a community of usually educated and intelligent and opinionated points of view, nothing bad can come of that.

This is not an attempt to kiss a mod's ass by defending him, just to appreciate that crazy debates and offhand subject changes and wild out there points of view are something to be valued by any reader, not some reason to downplay someone because of which topics he chooses to post about.

Actually its 3,000 lists. And I hate orks. My Imbraesil can't handle them and get mashed every time. Even Bob and Ralph the revenant titans O doom get conblaminated, although they surived like 16 mega weapon/titan killer shots last game (TAKE THAT ORKs! In your face Tau Boys!!! muahahahaha!)

I just have issues with people who express deep debate arguments et al, on an OT board on toy soldiers.