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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/13 19:48:34
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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sadly all not showing up here...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/13 19:55:11
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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This message was edited 10 times. Last update was at 2010/12/13 20:33:53
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/13 20:43:32
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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Wow they are big.. i like them very much. did you have to convert the twin barrel gun
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/13 20:50:56
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i think it will work out better in the end to put your pics here on dakka...
also you can directly post the pics of your tanks by using theforums link given in the gallery...
like:
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sorry for the little know-it all behavior^^ Automatically Appended Next Post: sorry doubled one pic^^
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/12/13 20:51:34
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/14 04:02:22
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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To Vik: Thanks for that insight, awesome to know that bit so that folks don't have to go to extra windows.  The pics also caught my friend working on Bolt Action Germans as his selected IG army. He uses a 1:48 scale Me-262 as a Thunderbolt.
To Neil: Those cannons are as is! The T-61A5 is a massive 1:35th scale kit. But the commander is a Leman Russ commander so is in the correct scale for playing in Apoc games. ^^
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/14 08:28:51
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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really now that you poited that head sticking out of the tank out i have seen him for the first time and the scale of that beast comes way more clear...jaw hitting floar clear that is...
man if i was a mere punny space marine and wanted to purge some IGs i would pretty soon see the error of my ways...after that the tracks would make me go splat!!!
vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/14 11:31:46
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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LOL! I will be working on the stats for it with the copy of the Vehicle Design Rules I have in my Chapter Approved 2004.
It is a big beast. All the better to make my enemies surrender!
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/14 12:48:49
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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shasolenzabi wrote:
To Neil: Those cannons are as is! The T-61A5 is a massive 1:35th scale kit.
I had one of those T-61s its a huge kit, Its well over a foot long IIRC. I ended up selling it as I just didnt have time for a project of that scale at the time. I think i actually made a little bit of money off it...bought it for like $95, sold it for over $100.
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Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 02:50:48
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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To Mad4Minis; I am figuring that is best to grab things when I spot them, I have seen too many other times I wanted for my army that disappeared due to Out-of-print issues.
So, I worked out the details of the T-61in my VDR pages of CA 2004, it came to about 437pts.
Name; T-61A5 super-heavy tank hunter, Race; Human, BS3
FA=14, SA=14, RA=12, structure points=3, Targetter, Armaments: Twin-linked, long-barrel vanquisher cannon, twin-linked heavy bolter/flamer, Pintle mount Heavy Stubber.
speed; normal, fully armored. Crew; Commander/gunner, 2xloaders/gunners, driver/bow gunner, vox-operator.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/12/15 20:24:55
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 19:32:37
Subject: Re:Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Now, amazingly the Akuyaku-1 GO is a more expensive vehicle. Likely due to it's siege line breaker role, it is 487pts with the following stats: Type: Warmachine/Tank, Race: Human, BS3, Armor; FA=14, SA=13, RA=12. Structure points=2, Weapons: Battlecannon, 2 x autocannons, 2 x Heavy bolters, 2 x coaxial heavy stubbers, 3 x twin linked heavy stubbers, 9 x heavy stubbers. Crew: Commander/Gunner, 3 x Loaders/gunners, driver, vox operator, 6 x machine gun operators.
[img] Automatically Appended Next Post: FA=Front Armor, SA=Side Armor, RA=Rear Armor, BS=Ballistic Skill
VDR=Vehicle Design Rules
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/12/15 20:26:08
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 20:37:52
Subject: Re:Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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so being a noob i have read, well kind of, cause reading should go hand in hand with understanding...i have indeed some questions... please take in mind that i mainly for now only read fluffy parts of codecies and not the actual rulesstuff...
and something too: i never read an imperail armor codex so this means basically about tanks i know zip...
i understand fast attack and sweeping attack to some extent, the worth i cant put to use there tho...
also class of tank...:Warmachine/Tank why is it mentioned? what other types are there?
and RA is not explained...
structure points, does it serve as "lifepoints/hitpoints" of the tank?
the actual weapon lineup seems to say actually hedghog with shooty needles for me^^ there must be a hell of a noise inside that beast...if i am not mistaken it is 19 firing weapons...do they blast all at once if your using the tank as a spearhead? like run in the middle and keep all holes firing and spin gently around until all surounding biomass is obliterated? like in the movie wild wild west the tank does with all them confederates...?
vik
see told ya i was a born noob^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 21:05:49
Subject: Re:Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Viktor von Domm wrote:so being a noob i have read, well kind of, cause reading should go hand in hand with understanding...i have indeed some questions... please take in mind that i mainly for now only read fluffy parts of codecies and not the actual rulesstuff...
and something too: i never read an imperail armor codex so this means basically about tanks i know zip...
i understand fast attack and sweeping attack to some extent, the worth i cant put to use there tho...
also class of tank...:Warmachine/Tank why is it mentioned? what other types are there?
and RA is not explained...
structure points, does it serve as "lifepoints/hitpoints" of the tank?
the actual weapon lineup seems to say actually hedghog with shooty needles for me^^ there must be a hell of a noise inside that beast...if i am not mistaken it is 19 firing weapons...do they blast all at once if your using the tank as a spearhead? like run in the middle and keep all holes firing and spin gently around until all surounding biomass is obliterated? like in the movie wild wild west the tank does with all them confederates...?
vik
see told ya i was a born noob^^
Okay, so the rules part will help you understand how the tanks interact with regards to armor values versus guns shot at them. A codex will mesh with the main rules for the most part allowing one to see how troops and vehicles interact in the game overall.
Well, tanks have a new meaning now with regards to ramming(Tank shock for vehicles as it were)
RA=Rear Armor.
Warmachines, larger than other vehicles of similar design, while dreadnoughts and titans share basic design principles, their scale makes them so the titan is a "warmachine" this also includes superheavy tanks like the Baneblade.
So, warmachines cover the heavy tanks, super-heavy tanks and some of the largest aircraft the game can offer.
Yes, structure points are kind of like hit-points, you have to do structural damage to get rid of the things. Now a Leman Russ for instance, is a 1 point tank, but the Baneblade being bigger lasts longer with it's 3 points.
Superheavies can move, and then, with the "lumbering" rule, fire all of it's weapons, (You have to check arcs and declare what is firing at which targets before actually rolling those dice) so yeah, the inside of the Akuyaku would be pretty bad with all tat machine gun chattering and cannonade booming. The back weapons can only fire after moving if there are target to shoot at behind the tank, but that won't be too many as there are only 2 weapons back there not on turrets. ^^
So, you can imagine the other tanks I have to post here soon, the T-350, the T-290, and the troop carrier "Seadragon"
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 21:22:24
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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this brought some insights. but also raised some other qs as well.
why has the Akuyaku-1 only two and the T-61A5 three structural points? i understand that he is heavier built than the former but in combat he would only serve a role as a artillery tank and i dont understand why a heavy attack vehicle like the Akuyaku has then only 2 struc.p. ...
by the way how do you check arcs when firing? do you have a tool like the flamertemplate for that? i havent seen that...
apoc games muzst take so much more time than mere normal 40k games...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 22:14:51
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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I looked at the size of the tanks as part of it. I then also checked with other tanks, the Macharius which is about the same size as the Akuyaku, is 2 structure points and is well armed. also that structure point past one is 100points of the cost. Each weapon has a cost as well. and I like the idea of the T-61A5 lasting a while as it keeps my foes worried about it's ability to smash their tanks from further off than their guns can reach me! The Akuyaku will be escorted by smaller tanks and troops as they all attempt to breach defenses.
Also, looking at the designs, I am going with the aged design of the akuyaku, like the malcador.
Most of the turrets have 360degree arcs, except where the structure of the hull blocks them, the akuyaku can attack anything from the left rear all across the front to the right rear different guns attacking different units. Unhappy enemy infantry along the flanks, and unhappy everything else out front.
Apoc games, depending upon the points, 3k to more, can last hours or days!^^
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 22:25:44
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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sound like someone is bount to get starved over an apoc game^^
with those turrets and their range and degree arcs its more like a rolling fortress...
vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 22:40:18
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Nah, you plan them in advance, plan for drinks and food and breaks to be had so you don't get too crazy. The idea is for it to be a fun epic movie battle in game form.
Hey the Akuyaku is amongstt hose tnaks like from WWI. land ship festooned with many guns.^^
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 22:48:49
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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all in all : the bigger the better^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 23:06:59
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Exactly! a quality of tank as opposed to the quantity, although quantity has a quality all it's own.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 23:12:51
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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ah thats a good proverb^^
should go to bed now as i am getting way sleepy^^
have a good night sir!
over and out, vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/15 23:16:40
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Sleep well with dreams of tanks rolling in your head!
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/16 09:01:35
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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slept well and all the more well because of absent loud rolling tanks i guess^^
vik^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/16 11:31:06
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Time for me to dream of my tanks a rolling ^^
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/16 12:15:11
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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well then have a good one...a dream at that^^
cheers, vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/16 22:25:17
Subject: Re:Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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I am back and with me pics of the Akuyaku in the outskirts of a battered town.
First, making it's approach.
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Making a left turn.
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Well oiled is the periscope now! no longer will it squeak as it lowers or raises!
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Closing in, best to get out of the way!
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view from above, either a bird, or scout?
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/16 22:31:21
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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yep, that periscope looks oiled to work very properly^^
nice to see the bruiser in action...but this aslo raises the question : do you will be building a table to go with your army? the wastelands? that would be cool...and some rotten barracks to go with...
vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/16 22:35:17
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Sadly, I do not have the space in an apartment for a table. I will be moving in a few months, and maybe then, I can do so as it will be a house to live in, not an apartment. All background is at my local game shop.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/16 22:35:33
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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I cant wait to get rolling on my Aku...but wife wont let me. Since its a xmas gift from my dad she has put it on quarantine until xmas. Maybe Ill get to it a day or so early. Either way, I already know how Im gonna build/paint it, so might be able to have some pics up during the week between xmas and New Years.
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Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/16 22:37:45
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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to Mad4minis: Cool! remember, I made the hatch from a Leman work with sculpting that supporting cylinder on the turret. Think Porsche style King Tiger turret.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/16 22:47:44
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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oh i hate moving... so much stuff here that would need to be packed up and then unpacked...would kill my enthusiasm instantly... but to be true we currently live in a three room apartment (plus bath and kitchen) and we are five together....so we´re a bit crowded too...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/16 23:13:44
Subject: Been Seeking out oddball tanks
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Viktor von Domm wrote:oh i hate moving... so much stuff here that would need to be packed up and then unpacked...would kill my enthusiasm instantly... but to be true we currently live in a three room apartment (plus bath and kitchen) and we are five together....so we´re a bit crowded too...
Yeah, apartments are always tight and confined. A house will be nice after so many years of apartment dwelling. And more space for me to work in. I also have new pics of the T-61A5 coming out next!
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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