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GW Managers and staff working in the stores on Saturday for the 'Announcement' have been told beforehand that they need to pick up a roll of Gaffer tape that will stick to and show up well on the shop floor.

Don't know what this is for, but I'm assuming it's to Mark out a board of some sorts, maybe similar to what people do for boarding action missions in 40k. Maybe this does mean that it includes boarding actions?

Advance orders do go up Saturday and it's apparently the 'only' way to get in on the action. The 'announcement' is going to go up on the GW website at 00:01 hours on Saturday 17th September. Which for me kinda defeats the object of trying to encourage as many people to get down to their stores as possible.

Ah well.....

scipio.au wrote: Warhammer Quest came later, and in many ways could be thought of as Advanced Advanced HeroQuest.

Only insofar as it was a dungeon crawl game that GW released sometime after Advanced Heroquest.

HBMC, what a hater.

Norn King wrote:HBMC, what a hater.

He's a big fluffy pussycat, and the world would be a boring place without him!

insaniak wrote:

Flashman wrote:Yes, but WHQ was a update of Heroquest, not really a new game in the strictest sense of the word.

Warhammer Quest was nothing whatsoever to do with Heroquest, beyond being a similar style of game.

Different rules perhaps, but a very similar experience IMHO - Elf, Dwarf, Wizard and Barbarian wander into dungeons and fight monsters. Yes, I know there are many dungeon crawler type games, but WHQ was clearly of the same DNA as Heroquest.

The Decapitator wrote:GW Managers and staff working in the stores on Saturday for the 'Announcement' have been told beforehand that they need to pick up a roll of Gaffer tape that will stick to and show up well on the shop floor.

Don't know what this is for, but I'm assuming it's to Mark out a board of some sorts, maybe similar to what people do for boarding action missions in 40k. Maybe this does mean that it includes boarding actions?

I can only imagine what the tape will be used for... silencing dissenters, restraining people who cannot contain their excitement, making duck tape boats...

Also White Dwarf has been pushed back from the 24th September to the 1st October, not sure if this is Dread Fleet orientated or just that September is a long month.

Maybe it has been delayed because there is more product to be announced apart from Dread Fleet and they wanted GD UK to steel the limelight and create a buzz for the follow on WD release?

I am hoping we are going to get a preview of TWC at GD as it seems like they are incoming.

notprop wrote:@ Adam Longwalker - what you denote as gross profit is actually Turnover, the figure for profit is shown as income. Therefore the r&d to profit spend is circa 10%.

They also state that they are listing the figures if us dollars, but the numbers are close to gbp so it Is a bit confusing.

Yup You are correct. Glad you got it too. That is my fault. I have no idea on how I can miss the gross profit line in bold letters that is staring in front of me in this monitor right now. My apologies on that one. 91 million is their gross profit. Total revenue is 123 million pounds. As far is R&D, how did you get the 10% number. Am I missing something? If it is closer to 10% of gross profits by what you saw then that is a decent amount for R&D. Which makes part of my previous comment moot.

So thanks for catching the error -Adam

The Decapitator wrote:GW Managers and staff working in the stores on Saturday for the 'Announcement' have been told beforehand that they need to pick up a roll of Gaffer tape that will stick to and show up well on the shop floor.

Don't know what this is for, but I'm assuming it's to Mark out a board of some sorts, maybe similar to what people do for boarding action missions in 40k. Maybe this does mean that it includes boarding actions?

Advance orders do go up Saturday and it's apparently the 'only' way to get in on the action. The 'announcement' is going to go up on the GW website at 00:01 hours on Saturday 17th September. Which for me kinda defeats the object of trying to encourage as many people to get down to their stores as possible.

Ah well.....

Thanks for this info

Following on from this, I've just seen what the gaffer tape is for and it's not particularly interesting. Stores are to create a 'dotted line' from they're front door to they're order point meant to look like a treasure map. With an 'X marks the spot' at the terminal.

Dissapointing I know.

Stores will get a limited amount of stock on the 1st October release day based on the amount of money they take on average. But once they are sold they won't be replenished. The only way to guarantee it is to Pre-order in the 15 days before release.

Only one thing left to say now....... Arrrrrggghh me hearties!!

Adam LongWalker wrote:

notprop wrote:@ Adam Longwalker - what you denote as gross profit is actually Turnover, the figure for profit is shown as income. Therefore the r&d to profit spend is circa 10%.

They also state that they are listing the figures if us dollars, but the numbers are close to gbp so it Is a bit confusing.

Yup You are correct. Glad you got it too. That is my fault. I have no idea on how I can miss the gross profit line in bold letters that is staring in front of me in this monitor right now. My apologies on that one. 91 million is their gross profit. Total revenue is 123 million pounds. As far is R&D, how did you get the 10% number. Am I missing something? If it is closer to 10% of gross profits by what you saw then that is a decent amount for R&D. Which makes part of my previous comment moot.

So thanks for catching the error -Adam

That alright mate.

Actually I thought that you were looking to compare the actual final net profits* and the R&D expenditure that you highlighted. So I have assumed that you would want to use the Nett Profit (Nett income on the sheet) of £11.3M vs the £1.1M you had shown ergo the 10%.

So it might appear that I am wrong if this was not your intent. Is it common/desirable to compare Gross (before expenses) profit to R&D?

* there seems to be some quite differant terminology for the same thing between the US and UK financial types, so confusion is very easy

The Decapitator wrote:Following on from this, I've just seen what the gaffer tape is for and it's not particularly interesting. Stores are to create a 'dotted line' from they're front door to they're order point meant to look like a treasure map. With an 'X marks the spot' at the terminal.

Classy GW, very classy

Flashman wrote:

insaniak wrote:

Flashman wrote:Yes, but WHQ was a update of Heroquest, not really a new game in the strictest sense of the word.

Warhammer Quest was nothing whatsoever to do with Heroquest, beyond being a similar style of game.

Different rules perhaps, but a very similar experience IMHO - Elf, Dwarf, Wizard and Barbarian wander into dungeons and fight monsters. Yes, I know there are many dungeon crawler type games, but WHQ was clearly of the same DNA as Heroquest.

They where direct line, Heroquest to Advanced Heroquest to Warhammer Quest. MB might have done the first one, but GW carried it on with Advanced, then WQ.

In fact if I am remembering correctly, the white Dwarf Warhammer Quest release issue, mentioned the name change came about because people no longer identified with Advanced Heroquest and they wanted to keep the Warhammer connection clearly visable.


edit - dang lag, wrecking posts.. grumble.

Not suprising I didn't know anyone other than me that bought Advanced Heroquest or was that bothered about it.

I thought that it was good but there seemed to be so much other stuff going on at roughly the same time it was a bit ignored.

By time Warhammer Quest rolled around I thought i didn't want to be the only guy buying that game again and so missed out on its delights - also the reason I was hoping that it would be due a release now.

The Decapitator wrote:Following on from this, I've just seen what the gaffer tape is for and it's not particularly interesting. Stores are to create a 'dotted line' from they're front door to they're order point meant to look like a treasure map. With an 'X marks the spot' at the terminal.

I think someone at GWHQ's been watching too much Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

The Decapitator wrote:
Stores will get a limited amount of stock on the 1st October release day based on the amount of money they take on average. But once they are sold they won't be replenished. The only way to guarantee it is to Pre-order in the 15 days before release.

Just to clarify, you are talking about the stores, right? Its the stores that have to pre-order it to ensure that they get it before the release date right?

Normal customers will still be able to buy it through GWs online store after the release date, right?

insaniak wrote:

scipio.au wrote: Warhammer Quest came later, and in many ways could be thought of as Advanced Advanced HeroQuest.

Only insofar as it was a dungeon crawl game that GW released sometime after Advanced Heroquest.

Yeah, no other relationship, clearly.

In other news, Rogue Trader and 40k 5th Edition are also unrelated, and just happen to be tabletop battle games set in a grimdark future using broadly similar figures. One was released sometime after the other.

No eyeroll emoticon, unfortunately.

notprop wrote:Not suprising I didn't know anyone other than me that bought Advanced Heroquest or was that bothered about it.

I thought that it was good but there seemed to be so much other stuff going on at roughly the same time it was a bit ignored.

By time Warhammer Quest rolled around I thought i didn't want to be the only guy buying that game again and so missed out on its delights - also the reason I was hoping that it would be due a release now.

I seem to remember GW pushed Warhammer Quest pretty hard when it was released. There were lots of events in stores, campaigns were run etc., and WD had quite a few issues with new characters and scenarios to pay (it was during the 'cardboard phase' of the mag, so I think they even gave away a floor tile at one point! )
Certainly, it wasn't a fire and forget which it looks like this one is going to be, which is a bit of a shame.

PhantomViper wrote:

The Decapitator wrote:
Stores will get a limited amount of stock on the 1st October release day based on the amount of money they take on average. But once they are sold they won't be replenished. The only way to guarantee it is to Pre-order in the 15 days before release.

Just to clarify, you are talking about the stores, right? Its the stores that have to pre-order it to ensure that they get it before the release date right?

Normal customers will still be able to buy it through GWs online store after the release date, right?

What I mean is that each GW store will be sent 'x' amount to sell to Joe public after release day. Once they are sold that's it. I'm sure there will be 'x' amount available to online customers also, which includes people Pre-ordering through the store (which won't come out of their allowance), however if they are all snapped up in pre-orders before release day then there might not be any left for general sale on the website.

So the best way to make sure you get it is to Pre-order it on the website either at home or at the store.

The Decapitator wrote:What I mean is that each GW store will be sent 'x' amount to sell to Joe public after release day. Once they are sold that's it. I'm sure there will be 'x' amount available to online customers also, which includes people Pre-ordering through the store (which won't come out of their allowance), however if they are all snapped up in pre-orders before release day then there might not be any left for general sale on the website.

So the best way to make sure you get it is to Pre-order it on the website either at home or at the store.

Thanks for the clarification.

I still don't get how the frikk they think I am going to had over my cash sight unseen without looking at the rules. There will not even be a copy in store on Saturday. Someone has seriously lost the plot. I am so dumbfounded by the stupidity of this I cannot even find the words to described just how stupid it is.

12am in UK is web release. Means we should have had a massive amount of time to laugh at it by the time the Brits wake up.

I reckon $150. Anyone else

fullheadofhair wrote:I still don't get how the frikk they think I am going to had over my cash sight unseen without looking at the rules. There will not even be a copy in store on Saturday. Someone has seriously lost the plot. I am so dumbfounded by the stupidity of this I cannot even find the words to described just how stupid it is.

12am in UK is web release. Means we should have had a massive amount of time to laugh at it by the time the Brits wake up.

I reckon $150. Anyone else

? What planet are you on that thinks most Brits are in bed by 12 on a Friday night? Pubs don't shut till 11.30 and then it's clubs after. I reckon they are hoping we're drunk so we order it. Personally I'd rather spend my cash on figures for games I'm already invested in but seeing as it's Games Day next week i'm hoping there will be some copies to play or at least figures to oogle.

Bloodwin wrote:

? What planet are you on that thinks most Brits are in bed by 12 on a Friday night? Pubs don't shut till 11.30 and then it's clubs after..

That would be the one where I am English living in US. Friday 12am would either see me drunk, drunk half asleep lying on my kabab (with chili sauce) or drunk chasing after equally drunk women. Certainly not on GW website and if was on the internet past 12am having been drinking it would not be little plastic models I would be looking at.

Oh you brits.

So is this YouTube thing all we're getting till release day or what?

Check back tomorrow.

fullheadofhair wrote:I still don't get how the frikk they think I am going to had over my cash sight unseen without looking at the rules. There will not even be a copy in store on Saturday. Someone has seriously lost the plot. I am so dumbfounded by the stupidity of this I cannot even find the words to described just how stupid it is.

I was hopping that someone else would arrive at that same conclusion so that I wouldn't have to post it directly.

But to answer our own question, just read this thread and the Dread Fleet one, you'll find plenty of people chomping at the bit to order it just based on it being from GW, so my faith for the future of mankind plummets a little more yet again...

PhantomViper wrote: I still don't get how the frikk they think I am going to had over my cash sight unseen without looking at the rules. There will not even be a copy in store on Saturday. Someone has seriously lost the plot. I am so dumbfounded by the stupidity of this I cannot even find the words to described just how stupid it is.

You seem to be doing an ok job.....

notprop wrote:

Adam LongWalker wrote:

notprop wrote:@ Adam Longwalker - what you denote as gross profit is actually Turnover, the figure for profit is shown as income. Therefore the r&d to profit spend is circa 10%.

They also state that they are listing the figures if us dollars, but the numbers are close to gbp so it Is a bit confusing.

Yup You are correct. Glad you got it too. That is my fault. I have no idea on how I can miss the gross profit line in bold letters that is staring in front of me in this monitor right now. My apologies on that one. 91 million is their gross profit. Total revenue is 123 million pounds. As far is R&D, how did you get the 10% number. Am I missing something? If it is closer to 10% of gross profits by what you saw then that is a decent amount for R&D. Which makes part of my previous comment moot.

So thanks for catching the error -Adam

That alright mate.

Actually I thought that you were looking to compare the actual final net profits* and the R&D expenditure that you highlighted. So I have assumed that you would want to use the Nett Profit (Nett income on the sheet) of £11.3M vs the £1.1M you had shown ergo the 10%.

So it might appear that I am wrong if this was not your intent. Is it common/desirable to compare Gross (before expenses) profit to R&D?

* there seems to be some quite differant terminology for the same thing between the US and UK financial types, so confusion is very easy

It is good that one or another checks each other facts and comments and makes a polite and friendly note of it.
I'm telling you, it's people like you that keep Dakka great.

It it also giving me serious thought when I take time off of heading back to England/Europe sometime soon, within a year, just to game with you folks. The type of Gaming that you people do appeals to me. -Adam