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Ghastly Grave Guard





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Good to hear from you! So those are looking pretty slick. You used BftBG for all the blood on these? Did you do the "flick" thing to get it to splatter like they do in the intro video for that paint?

Also, I'm interested to know how you painted the quad gun and the other metal (chains and stuff). It looks like you used the same process on all of it and I might want to steal the idea for some projects.

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I'm ashamed to say I didn't bother with the videos, I did indeed just use good old flicking to get the effect though.

Quadgun and metal was just Vallejo grey primer -> Leadbelcher -> Nuln Oil -> Leadbelcher -> Ryza Rust -> Ironbreaker, with the usual triple wash on the end of the barrels for heat distortion (or whatever it's meant to be called).


 
   
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Ghastly Grave Guard





Cambridge, UK

so, leadbelcher base, nuln oil wash, i assume drybrush leadbelcher after, then how ruza rust? drybrush? Then ironbreaker highlights?

and then 3 coats of nuln oil on the barrels?

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Note to self must be clearer!

Everything is right though apart from the 3 coats, the effect is basically achieved by blue at the tip, purple in the middle and sepia towards the end I can't remember where I first got the idea but this blog post I found covers it nicely:

http://fromthewarp.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/how-to-paint-heat-stained-gun-barrels.html



 
   
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Cambridge, UK

Awesome, thanks!

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Not a problem, sooo not been entirely idle but I wouldn't call the stuff worth taking pics of, been painting the eyes on the daemonettes, the tiny tiny eyes of diaznettes, 67 nettes, that's 134 stupid tiny fiddly eyes then I get to paint the white cloth on all of them about half of that done now, might starting painting my new Aleph just for a change at this rate.


 
   
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Ghastly Grave Guard





Cambridge, UK

Oh Aleph, nice man! That's my Infinity faction as well, though I don't have a lot of play time with them. What color scheme are you looking at? I decided to paint all of the "pure robot" guys silver (like, the guys who really just look like robots) and all the android-looking models in gold. Based on snow bases, they're coming out pretty decent!

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Well so much for saving the reply till I had some pictures

I think I'll be aiming pretty close to the studio scheme as that's part of what attracted me to the models in the first place. On a side note you should start a P&M blog, totally not just an excuse to examine these shiny robots nonono!

Edit: On another side note Corvus Belli definitely have excellent customer service, the starter was missing the Dakini Tactbot #1's shinpads and they're already on their way to me.

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Ghastly Grave Guard





Cambridge, UK

Ha! You know, I've considered starting a blog for all the crazy projects I've got going on now, but I don't have a good setup for taking pictures. I don't have any daylight bulbs/lamps, and I have a bad setup for using natural light (due to angles and stuff). I'm still trying to figure out how to make it all happen...

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Excuses Mr! Honestly most blogs don't bother with incredible setups, hell lately even I've just had them on the desk against the wall, and used the d-lighting function on the slr if the images are way too dark (as they often are in the poxy new office). The blog is perfectly fine for slightly 'rough and ready' images, maybe for showcase a proper setup wouldn't hurt but even then most don't seem too worried.

This for example is just a shot off of the mobile, for an update, it'll do right!



60-70% have the robes and eyes at that stage now, there's more to go though, stoopid horde armies


 
   
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The eye of terror

I'm going slightly mad, it finally happened, oh yes.

All the robes are now coated in white, bit torn on what to do next with them, maybe a really light blue wash followed by a 're-whitening' on raised folds? Not had to paint white robes before so wasn't sure where to go from here with them.

Also done all the knives in a leadbelcher basecoat which was interesting as they have anywhere from none at all to two depending on which random arm I picked up during assembly, helps them look less uniform at least. Slowly working my way through gold highlights now as the Balthasar gold was more of a deep bronze really and didn't pop at all, think I'm at #49 in the line for that using auric armour. Instead of taking a break and doing something else I seem to have gotten stuck into these properly, though there's quite a few bits I can see that need cleaning up or that I've missed as happens normally it's just a little disheartening when there's so many to touch up after rather than one or two out of a regular squad.



 
   
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Cambridge, UK

I can't tell the difference between your two most recently posted pics! The metal knife behind the model?

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Oof a fair point really, one that would've been solved with a proper photo setup ironically

The gold is notably brighter on all of them as well but yeah progress shots of one are a little dull I suppose, they don't quite do justice to the fact there's 67 of the sods to do the same thing on! Just trying to make sure I don't start slacking off on the painting in general.


 
   
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Ghastly Grave Guard





Cambridge, UK

Ask and ye shall receive - I decided to take your advice and start my P&M blog today! Here's a link: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/574738.page

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Your blog is looking good, glad to get someone else into it!

No images this time but working my way through the dark green coat on the gems, they definitely help to start pulling it all together, found out I should've made the cloth grey then worked up to white so looks like I've got more work ahead, at least the cloth is a nice flat white to work from now rather than a mix of grey, pink, purple and gold. Really looking forward to getting these out of the way, I'm also reallllly looking forward to being able to do a proper group shot of them

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Made in gb
Ghastly Grave Guard





Cambridge, UK

Thanks man! Yeah, can't wait for the group shot.

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Got bored of painting the daemonettes so instead of painting something else as a break from painting them, I opted for a bit of converting. Grabbed a couple of the little boxes of snapfit cultists from the FLGS to finish some cultist squads I've had sitting on the shelf for a while. Can't quite finish the second squad of ten yet as I'm waiting on some hands and arms to arrive, shame the autoguns aren't worth the extra point most of the time so had to turn those into pistols.



Got most of a metal daemon prince in a job lot on eBay, didn't have a Khorne prince yet so I thought it was about time, worst case the poor chap will have to be a bloodthirster if he ever sees the table. Still need to get him some wings and think of something to do with the other shoulder pad.



Suppose I ought to really get back to painting the horde again, must avoid burnout though


 
   
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Cambridge, UK

Nice! I'm liking those axes.

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Yeah oddly ork nobz seem to have appropriately sized hands for daemon princes, not that I'm complaining.

Got back to the daemonettes, all the gems are now basecoated green, but I'm having real problems adding depth to the white cloth still, asked for advice on the other bit of the forum and while it was appreciated it doesn't give the effect I'm looking for on the style of cloth the daemonettes have. It seems perfectly fine on larger areas with more pronounced folds though so at least it's in the bank for future projects. So far I've tried administratum grey, and an old pot of space wolves grey followed by layering back up to white but the shadows just look forced and wrong, also tried a regular black wash as I'd read about that elsewhere but it produces the same problems. Half considering just leaving the cloth pure white before I lose my mind.


 
   
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Cambridge, UK

If you can, post a pic of the problem area, I'm curious.

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See now this is where I should've kept the problem areas instead of recoating them in white while I was busy being grumpy with them. I tried another method while I couldn't sleep, did the ink, then worked up to administratum grey, then 50/50 grey with white, then pure white for 2-3 layers. Still not entirely happy with it, the other option is going for a different colour of cloth it's not like I've got a whole army sitting with white cloth to repaint if I did change now.



 
   
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Ghastly Grave Guard





Cambridge, UK

Hmmm. Interestingly, I think the white top doesn't look so bad. I see what you're saying about the shadows looking forced, but on the top it isn't so rough. On the bottom, it shows up a lot more. Maybe you're trying to use too dark of a wash over too light of a surface color.

What if you basecoated in, say, a medium grey (not too dark or light), washed with a black wash, and then highlight in either a light grey or a pure white?

Or maybe, and I don't know if this is a good idea or not, but when you wash, maybe don't stand the model upright on its base like that. Maybe lay it down on its back while the wash dries. That might make it pool differently and give a better effect.

White is hard, man.


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Here, watch this video from 2:25, though watching it from the beginning would give you the whole picture. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBSIoNlBgOU&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL4sEryds4XKVw-DeR5VZQAGiXtfh82SBB

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Only just noticed the edit, watching it now!

Not being able to make it look right had been annoying the hell out of me so I thought I'd do a cloth banner as a bit of a change and to see if it was just me. Freehand is probably never going to be a strong point for me but it was fun to design something a bit different then paint it up, and I'm really happy with how the cloth came out on the back now if only I could make the daemonettes do that!



Brought the five daemonettes I did years ago back upstairs to the office to ensure they match the new ones, well looking at them I'm half tempted to strip them and start again, definitely not up to the new standard, but at least there's only five. Also got to work on some of the bases I've got set aside for them, however it looks like I need err... 50 more? That'll be interesting seeing as like a plonker I went for Scibor ones, February is becoming Expenseuary.


 
   
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The freehand on that banner is looking really good - nice work.

   
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Alabama

nice banner man looks really good. the white came out well too. keep up the good work
   
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Cambridge, UK

I actually really like the banner, man! And the white on the back of the banner looks good, but I know how it can be easier to get certain effects on larger surfaces...

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Banner looks ace! Always a blast to see what people do on them. I love seeing all the different freehand people can come up with!

As far as the white goes, I dont think the ultra dark wash (like on the most recent daemonette) is what you're looking for.

My suggestion would be painting the cloth a light gray, probably a mix of Admin gray (the lighter one, whatever the name) and white, then highlighting with a mix of white and just a touch of gray, then finally hit the highest areas with pure white. Its roughly what I do for the white on my Marines Errant.
Its surprising how dark you can get a gray and still register it as "white"

   
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@Lenny, alabama & tangent - Thanks guys, always nice to see some feedback, especially on stuff I wasn't sure on.

@Ramos - I agree on the ultra dark being too far, I just tried something similar to what I used on the banner which is daemonette hide -> slaanesh grey -> 50/50 white scar and slaanesh grey -> white scar quite happy with the effect so now I've just got to do it to all 71


 
   
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Sooo might've gotten a little distracted with other games and things, but figured I'd go ahead and drive myself a little more crazy and slap some of the options onto the daemonettes. Which means I need to add a little greenstuff now and then prime and blend the new bits into the original paint, figured I might as well though rather than having to buy more at a later date for the price they apparently go for nowadays (also I doubt I'll ever need 71 un-upgraded daemonettes, and I'd only bother with instruments or banners if doing units of 20). Done a little work on a couple of pink horror squads too (adding banners and instruments to old metals also). Dunno how I'm going to differentiate the Alluress option, might just add a token to the base on them.



 
   
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Definitely a good idea to switch a few to special gear. You're already insane for painting so many standard 'nettes, it'll be good to have these few treats to paint up with em xD

As to the alluress.... maybe even differentiating her by color? Or a particularly massive claw?

   
 
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