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It really depends on the player and what they bring.

If its a good friend who wanted to pick up the odd model, or something like tetras to make his tau more competitive, then I am fine.

The issue for me is when a player tells me that forgeworld is balanced etc etc, nags me into playing them, and then puts down the most broken units forgeworld has and spams them. Thats when I hate the use of forgeworld.

For the odd, this model is really cool can I use it, then thats great

 Kaldor wrote:

Apple fox wrote:
I like to play with the codexs as they are intended, and don't want to have the extra units changing the way they play.
Hmm, that's the gist of it but not realy what I want to say

I can understand that, but wouldn't it be easier to just take an open view? I mean, what about units added by White Dwarf, or even just units added with a new codex?

It's not like the codexes are evenly balanced, either. Necron flier spam is one of the most broken abusive lists I've ever seen, and I play Grey Knights!

I want to see the cool models but I don't want to turn up to a game agenst space marines, and suddenly find I'm facing a force full of stuff I have to change all my thaghts for.
This can also come back to, if people willing to inform me of the details I normaly open to play and sadly experiences have sour this fealing over the years.

Does that make sence ;0

Yeah, that kinda makes sense but really it's no different to playing an army you've never played before. Even if it's just because it's a new codex. A player should always be willing to explain new units and new rules that their opponent may not be familiar with, but at the same time I wouldn't expect any player to have to ask if it's ok to use official rules for a standard game, whether that's using rules from White Dwarf, a new codex that I haven't played against before or if it's Forge World rules.

I mean, if you got a new codex for your army, would you actually ask your opponent if it was ok to use the new codex? Or would you just offer to explain everything for them as you went through the game?

Well I do keep it open, and try to accommodate I think white dwarf additions are few and far between and new units in a codex with the change are expected and ok and I do ask if what I am using is ok when I play.
And sadly yea GW ballence not as great ;(

as to other I may pm you the answer as its not something I want just put up.

 tuiman wrote:
The issue for me is when a player tells me that forgeworld is balanced etc etc, nags me into playing them, and then puts down the most broken units forgeworld has and spams them. Thats when I hate the use of forgeworld.

Do you feel the same way about people who spam the most broken codex units?

Yeah but in that case, I know what to expect.

I know next to nothing of any the rules or models forgeworld puts out, so when someone says forge world is balanced, I take there word for it, and plays things like the guard defense platforms, vultures, hades drill etc. I am quite shocked, but I guess I know what to expect next time.

You made your point, what I said was not specific to forgeworld but 40k in general, in that way.

I play so much for fun these days that I really have no problem

I participated in the grand opening tournament in Winston NC not long ago and was allowed to use a ForgeWorld Hazard Suit HQ in 3/3 games. He was 2 pts less than my Crisis suit commander, so swapping the list wasn't a big issue, and all of my opponents agreed to let me use the FW fellow. Consider the FW hate on the net I was surprised by how cool the people 'in person' were are the GW tourny.

GW have so far not produced fair rules, it's not been part of their design philosophy, though the new Chaos Space Marines rules actually are refreshing. By the same token, though, the latest contribution to Daemons outright falsifies it, however.

It's perfectly fine to have the stance "there's some content I strongly disagree with and won't play". The argument earlier in this thread that FW has or has not regular 40k content is silly, though.

Personally I'll play anyone with FW models or armies in a pick up game, with one or possibly two exceptions. What I won't play with a stranger is:
Dreadnought insta-assault drop pod (FW)
Necron codex (GW)
Daemon update (WD)
With friends it's different. I'll respect their desire to test new things and I expect them to respect my desire to broaden my gaming experience. Even if it means getting hopelessly stomped to oblivion on turn one against daemons and having the rest of the game one long drawn out torture to defeat.


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 Jstncloud wrote:
I participated in the grand opening tournament in Winston NC not long ago and was allowed to use a ForgeWorld Hazard Suit HQ in 3/3 games. He was 2 pts less than my Crisis suit commander, so swapping the list wasn't a big issue, and all of my opponents agreed to let me use the FW fellow. Consider the FW hate on the net I was surprised by how cool the people 'in person' were are the GW tourny.

In part, I think if you expand a codex that is perceived as being weak will be met with more respect than say... bringing Bran to a Space Wolf list.