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As someone who hates going second and having to remove multiple pie-plates worth of models within the first fifteen minutes of deploying them, I disagree with this new direction for the game.
I'm not sure. The image looks really empty for a WD cover or rather oddly photographed for a spread in a WD.It's certainly not a way GW usually photographs.
If they pull this model off... I can see them doing some more larger kits eventually.
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Poor ignorant guardsmen, it be but one of many of the great miracles of the Emperor! The Emperor is magic, like Harry Potter, but more magic! A most real and true SPACE WIZARD! And for the last time... I'm not a space plumber.
Swastakowey wrote:I think this one is a fake personally, The artwork is very old and well it doesnt look very normal GWeey material.
I'd also like to see you cite where the art is from, as its new to me, and I've been kicking around since
Rogue Trader. Plus the font is a dead match for what GW's have been using recently, and the image is absolutely the sort of thing we've seen from GW before.
You're entitled to your opinion of course, but as I've said already, if it is a fake, it is a very well observed, very well executed one.
That implies more then just the single knight kit?
That's the visions cover...
btw, stopped by GW and mentioned guard and this item coming out March/April and manager looked like a deer in headlights. Do GW managers play dumb or are out of the loop?
Im going to assume out for the most part, but in to a point (after all they need to know what to order and how much etc. So I think they are a last minute thing need to know basis situation.
They get sent stock, they don't order it, they don't need to know until their delivery turns up on a Thursday or Friday. As I've said before, 'manager' for the job a GW staffer performs in the shop is a bit of a misnomer.
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There is the only evidence I can find on short notice, but as im no expert I just agree with whoever wrote what is in the link.
Ish, except the background looks new ish. but the background looks like a photo while the moddel looks like art... weird I think
Yeah...
That's possible, as I missed the Epic 40K era, but it definitely isn't from Space Marine or Adeptus Titanicus era, the artwork was very different back then.
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There is the only evidence I can find on short notice, but as im no expert I just agree with whoever wrote what is in the link.
Ish, except the background looks new ish. but the background looks like a photo while the moddel looks like art... weird I think
That blogger is either slowed or outright lying. This isn't art from 25 years ago, as anyone who has seen any from back then would know. Cities of Death terrain in the background isn't doing him any favours either.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
It's a nice rumour, more big stuff to further crush regular troops into irrelevance!
On the plus side no matter how high GW, in their infinite wisdom all praises are to them, decides to price the thing in the land of the Rising Sun we have oodles of big robots of all sizes and prices so it's a win for us
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There is the only evidence I can find on short notice, but as im no expert I just agree with whoever wrote what is in the link.
Ish, except the background looks new ish. but the background looks like a photo while the moddel looks like art... weird I think
That blogger is either slowed or outright lying. This isn't art from 25 years ago, as anyone who has seen any from back then would know. Cities of Death terrain in the background isn't doing him any favours either.
Yea i mentioned the background. But im still not convinced as it doesnt at all look like the GW art I have been seeing lately. And in my opinion the background is just zoomed in terrain.
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Poor ignorant guardsmen, it be but one of many of the great miracles of the Emperor! The Emperor is magic, like Harry Potter, but more magic! A most real and true SPACE WIZARD! And for the last time... I'm not a space plumber.
Two iconic pieces of Knight art I remember from the time, notice the style is utterly different to anything in this piece.
Also consider that much of the interior of GW books up until very recently was black and white. Given that a full colour piece like this would have been therefore fairly unusual, I'm sure at least one of the posters in this thread would recall it.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Does anyone else think the background is a photo though? Its a spitting image of the terrain, but the image is too small to really get a good look at it.
Swastakowey wrote: Does anyone else think the background is a photo though? Its a spitting image of the terrain, but the image is too small to really get a good look at it.
Taking a photo of models and "arting it up" is a technique GW (amongst others) are known to use though, so it could very well be a processed Citadel terrain kit.
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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Swastakowey wrote: Does anyone else think the background is a photo though? Its a spitting image of the terrain, but the image is too small to really get a good look at it.
Taking a photo of models and "arting it up" is a technique GW (amongst others) are known to use though, so it could very well be a processed Citadel terrain kit.
I have seen them add bits (like gun fire or dust etc) via animation but I havent seen an art and model version yet. But I dont get into the books or anything so im not 100%
How would that invalidate anything? That would just mean that GW are displaying a brand new model in front of suitable terrain, which they've been doing for absolutely ages.
Goliath wrote: How would that invalidate anything? That would just mean that GW are displaying a brand new model in front of suitable terrain, which they've been doing for absolutely ages.
Because that brand new model is a drawing not a model.
Now im questioning myself because it also looks like a model... Or does it? haha
I was under the impression it was a drawing the whole time. But im not sure now.
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Swastakowey wrote: Does anyone else think the background is a photo though? Its a spitting image of the terrain, but the image is too small to really get a good look at it.
Taking a photo of models and "arting it up" is a technique GW (amongst others) are known to use though, so it could very well be a processed Citadel terrain kit.
I have seen them add bits (like gun fire or dust etc) via animation but I havent seen an art and model version yet. But I dont get into the books or anything so im not 100%
A huge percentage of FW stuff is based around photos of models.
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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Swastakowey wrote: See my last post... I was just being slowed haha, I thought it was a drawing.
It is a painting!!
It is likely, if genuine, a page from WD, or possibly the cover of a supplement.
But the painting could very well be based on a photograph of a model, which is something GW are known to do frequently. If you have access to imperial Armour Apocalypse, there is a "painting" of a Chaos Reaver, with various other units arranged around it in the opening few pages. If you compare it to the photo of the painted model, there are many identical details, and if you look closely at the other figures in the image, you'll notice they're actually in recognisable poses from the miniatures.
So it is a painting of a model, based on a photo of the model.
If its real.
Not the example I was describing, but a good illustration.
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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Swastakowey wrote: See my last post... I was just being slowed haha, I thought it was a drawing.
It is a painting!!
It is likely, if genuine, a page from WD, or possibly the cover of a supplement.
But the painting could very well be based on a photograph of a model, which is something GW are known to do frequently. If you have access to imperial Armour Apocalypse, there is a "painting" of a Chaos Reaver, with various other units arranged around it in the opening few pages. If you compare it to the photo of the painted model, there are many identical details, and if you look closely at the other figures in the image, you'll notice they're actually in recognisable poses from the miniatures.
So it is a painting of a model, based on a photo of the model.
If its real.
I see, well yea I will keep my high doubts on this image being real in that case.
There is the only evidence I can find on short notice, but as im no expert I just agree with whoever wrote what is in the link.
Ish, except the background looks new ish. but the background looks like a photo while the moddel looks like art... weird I think
That blogger is either slowed or outright lying. This isn't art from 25 years ago, as anyone who has seen any from back then would know. Cities of Death terrain in the background isn't doing him any favours either.
Yea i mentioned the background. But im still not convinced as it doesnt at all look like the GW art I have been seeing lately. And in my opinion the background is just zoomed in terrain.
I can say with a very high level of confidence that this knight is not from any past GW publication. I still have the vast majority of it, and it doesnt match the past style at all, nor is it a converted or otherwise modified Epic figure that someone was trying to pass off as a 40K figure.
The color choices, markings and other indicators put it inline with art/painting from the last year or two from the GW studio as well. It definately looks as though an actual picture was touched up, adding details like parchment looking bits under the gun, or perhaps a 3D render which was then touched up in Photoshop. IIRC though, GW has started doing that in some of their propaganda art anyway, so that isnt a give away that it is fake at all.
Almost everything about the figure is different from Epic period knights. You can go back and take a look at them on sites like Stuff of Legends, and the way legs are built, weapons are designed and especially artistic styles are different from then to this image.
Swastakowey wrote: See my last post... I was just being slowed haha, I thought it was a drawing.
It is a painting!!
It is likely, if genuine, a page from WD, or possibly the cover of a supplement.
But the painting could very well be based on a photograph of a model, which is something GW are known to do frequently. If you have access to imperial Armour Apocalypse, there is a "painting" of a Chaos Reaver, with various other units arranged around it in the opening few pages. If you compare it to the photo of the painted model, there are many identical details, and if you look closely at the other figures in the image, you'll notice they're actually in recognisable poses from the miniatures.
So it is a painting of a model, based on a photo of the model.
If its real.
Not the example I was describing, but a good illustration.
Im fairly certain they used the model for the cover and animated the background and fog etc, like they used to do on the old boxes.
Because I've finding these side by side comparisons helpful..
Undoubtedly a different artist, almost certainly a different, probably digital, technique, but aesthetically bang on song.
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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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Swastakowey wrote: See my last post... I was just being slowed haha, I thought it was a drawing.
It is a painting!!
It is likely, if genuine, a page from WD, or possibly the cover of a supplement.
But the painting could very well be based on a photograph of a model, which is something GW are known to do frequently. If you have access to imperial Armour Apocalypse, there is a "painting" of a Chaos Reaver, with various other units arranged around it in the opening few pages. If you compare it to the photo of the painted model, there are many identical details, and if you look closely at the other figures in the image, you'll notice they're actually in recognisable poses from the miniatures.
So it is a painting of a model, based on a photo of the model.
If its real.
Not the example I was describing, but a good illustration.
Im fairly certain they used the model for the cover and animated the background and fog etc, like they used to do on the old boxes.
Yes, that's my point. Albeit they didn't 'animate' anything.
The other image I was describing is far less obviously a model until you compare it, but I wasn't able to find an online image to link to, this was just to try and outline what I was talking about - there are images kicking around that you'd never think were models unless you knew the paint job of the studio mini very well.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Swastakowey wrote: See my last post... I was just being slowed haha, I thought it was a drawing.
It is a painting!!
It is likely, if genuine, a page from WD, or possibly the cover of a supplement.
But the painting could very well be based on a photograph of a model, which is something GW are known to do frequently. If you have access to imperial Armour Apocalypse, there is a "painting" of a Chaos Reaver, with various other units arranged around it in the opening few pages. If you compare it to the photo of the painted model, there are many identical details, and if you look closely at the other figures in the image, you'll notice they're actually in recognisable poses from the miniatures.
So it is a painting of a model, based on a photo of the model.
If its real.
Not the example I was describing, but a good illustration.
Im fairly certain they used the model for the cover and animated the background and fog etc, like they used to do on the old boxes.
Yes, that's my point. Albeit they didn't 'animate' anything.
The other image I was describing is far less obviously a model until you compare it, but I wasn't able to find an online image to link to, this was just to try and outline what I was talking about - there are images kicking around that you'd never think were models unless you knew the paint job of the studio mini very well.
I'll come back to this thread and admit im wrong if im wrong but due to the artwork on top of photo im not convinced its the real deal. I know the difference between the art and the models (or maybe I have been so well fooled that I just think I know) but as mentioned, I think it fake. Art on top of photo doesnt seem right to me.
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