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 Mythra wrote:
Guess even traitor guard distrust demons and chaos marines.

Well, to be fair, the allies matrix isn't representing traitor guard here, it's representing loyalist IG. Traitor guard aren't represented on it.

 Troike wrote:
Regarding the loss of IG being able to ally with Chaos, personally I think it makes sense from a fluff perspective. Traitor IG aren't the same faction as loyalist IG (which the allies matrix represents), so having loyalists be more tolerant of Chaos never made much sense fluff-wise.

Though I do sympathise with those who had an army of traitor IG built up, and who now have to work around the new allies matrix somehow.

 Sigvatr wrote:
SoB and GK battle brothers. Hm.

I know exactly what you're getting at.

Their aesthetics blend very nicely. They're going to look just fabulous together.

 Guilldog wrote:
they both work for his majesties inquisition

The Sisters don't anymore. They can of course still work alongside the Inquisition, they're just not Chamber Militant to the Ordo Hereticus anymore.

Oh it's very easy! We just use the Space Marine codex! Besides, the only drawback is we lose Daemons. I'll miss it solely because I have a traitor guard force. This is the second time GW has removed my ability to play them It was one of the few things I liked about that mess of an allies chart...

Besides that, I largely like it more. Still wish IG would have been split out along with SW. IG more friendly with Tau and CSM and SW convenience with GK, SoB, and maybe Inquisition. Well here is to waiting for a supplement to make my army work again and won't get updated and eventually dropped (and probably have big drawbacks)

On a side note, I never quite got the too much like guard claim. This is the Lost and the Damned! Aim high! Mutants, poor citizens, daemon spawn, zombies, elite military forces, traitors, mercenaries, xenos, and outlandish vehicles. I used the mauler fiends tentacles on a leman Russ and planning on grabbing some fantasy vehicles to kit up some outlandish vehicles


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 Kain wrote:

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 Nightlord1987 wrote:
The only reason Chaos doesn't get Friends with Benefits with AM anymore is because there are no Traitor Guard MODELS. After all, that seems to be the trend for axing certain units lately... Blame the Cadians.

Tell that to my Dozerblades.

They read: "FOR BE'LAKOR".

All of them.

Every tank has iconography.

Every man (when I finally get around to painting them) will have letters on their shoulder pads that spell the names of daemons.

Half my IG models atm are DV cultist gunmen.

My psykers are the melee cultists.

You could run your traitor guard as Vrak's renegade militia list.

Which is admittedly far worse (we're talking bottom tier book here) than the AM in virtually every way there is to be worse.

That and you are boned if you want Tzeentch, Slaanesh, or an elite force (I don't care for elite but some will)