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 Klerych wrote:
Well, have you seen what Pask in punisher squadron with prescience can do?

MM sponsons and hull lascannon. Brutal stuff. As if 20 S5 rending shots weren't enough. Point it at marines - they'll fail some of those saves(and you wound them on 3's), then come the sponsons and lascannons that just evaporate them and they -will- hit with prescience.

For what, 300pts (tank+upgrade weapons+pask+psyker, not counting mandatory 2nd HQ tank) one would hope it'd be scary...

As for the nerfs and point shifts.. at least the armoured sentinels are stupid good for their points! Put a plasma cannon on six of them and watch the hilarity ensue!

They're sorta ok with one, *maybe* two, weapons options and largely bad with most of the rest. That they only have 2HP really, really hurts, even at what looks like on paper to be a relatively cheap price. They weren't considered very good when they were as durable as a Chimera in 5E, now they're cheaper, but also correspondingly easier to kill too, leaving them with the same problem.

 Ailaros wrote:

Commissars make up the entirety of the imperial guard's staff officers. They exist to provide logistics and intelligence and communication and all that other stuff that staff officers do.

Um, what?

I've used Pask and he's definitely a star. I'm really leaning towards converting up a dedicated model for representing him; I'm liking him too much.

 Vaktathi wrote:
For what, 300pts (tank+upgrade weapons+pask+psyker, not counting mandatory 2nd HQ tank) one would hope it'd be scary...

Well, it's fairly durable too. I mean.. 14 front and 13 side really makes a difference and pumping out so many shots(that can be spread between two targets if you pass a, what, LD10 test?) is going to hurt people. Especially if it's a part of a mech army with wall of armour advancing forward, covering each other's sides.

 Vaktathi wrote:
They're sorta ok with one, *maybe* two, weapons options and largely bad with most of the rest. That they only have 2HP really, really hurts, even at what looks like on paper to be a relatively cheap price. They weren't considered very good when they were as durable as a Chimera in 5E, now they're cheaper, but also correspondingly easier to kill too, leaving them with the same problem.

When facing a proper IG army people will be least likely to try to pop the silly sentinels when everything else is much more dangerous. They're perfect harassment unit - walking plasma cannon for 50pts that's invincible to small arms with 12 front AV while a single shot can pay majority of it's point cost back without abundance of luck even if you simply aim it at infantry.

 aka_mythos wrote:
I've used Pask and he's definitely a star. I'm really leaning towards converting up a dedicated model for representing him; I'm liking him too much.

I've been using Pask from 5th edition, in 7th he is a best! Do what I did, make a custom ride for him like mine;

And here are his squad mates;


Yes the are WYSIWYG

Those are pretty cool! I'm thinking I'll keep mine a tank... I've been eyeballing puppet wars tractor hull as a starting point.