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**CREEEEEEEEED**

Find a better way to express yourself.

**dementedwombat**

I'd ask the people who wrote Infinity to write the rules, then send it to the people who wrote Warmachine and have them playtest it.

End of discussion?

**Peregrine**

CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
I wouldn't change it, I like it how it is, and if you're some whiny little b who keeps complaining about how X, Y and Z are wrong, then go f off and find a game where you get X, Y and Z.

Well that was certainly a productive comment.

**AnomanderRake**

dementedwombat wrote:
I'd ask the people who wrote Infinity to write the rules, then send it to the people who wrote Warmachine and have them playtest it.

End of discussion?

That or put the Forge World people who made the Heresy stuff in charge.

**Lanrak**

There would be a massive improvement in 40k rules if the GW Sales Department did not call the shots.

**SilverMK2**

I would strip out the USR's and use a system like KoW where you reference what the effect is (ie +n strength). As it is you have multiple usrs which all do very similar things. I would have the effects clearly stated on every unit profile that the applied to, and the usr description would then not link to 8 other usrs...

By all means include a fluffy explanation "the McCrusher has big crushers powered by rockets and the tears of children" but dont then reference some named rule "it grants super crushing special rule" which you then have to look up and it tells you that "super crushing functions as an axe but with an additional +1 str" so you then have to look up what modifiers an axe grants.

Instead it is summarised in the entry; +n str, -n int, AP n, etc.

**Xyptc**

Movement characteristics and replace the D6 with the D10 to allow wider variance in capabilities/armour etc.

**obithius**

WayneTheGame wrote:
The irony is that Bolt Action is basically a revised 40k 3rd edition, done with time and care and an eye towards balance not selling more figures. I've looked at the beta of Beyond the Gates of Antares and it's roughly the same thing: 40k done right.

I'm sure it won't be long before 40k lists appear for Antares:-)

**Chute82**

For those that don't know Gates of Antares is free to download off of warlord games website. If you have time give it a look.