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 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I honestly can't see why Roboute Guilliman's name is seen as a silly name. There is no inherent reference in the name, unlike Lion, Ferrus, Angron, Corax, Sanguinius, or Perturabo's. I just think that it's just offspill of Ultra-hate.

I'm with you. I don't see what's silly about Guilliman. I hate all the 'rowboat' and 'girlyman' stuff.

Come on surely it has to be Iron Hand, primarch of the Iron Hands - who has metal hands.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I honestly can't see why Roboute Guilliman's name is seen as a silly name. There is no inherent reference in the name, unlike Lion, Ferrus, Angron, Corax, Sanguinius, or Perturabo's. I just think that it's just offspill of Ultra-hate.

I'm with you. I don't see what's silly about Guilliman. I hate all the 'rowboat' and 'girlyman' stuff.

Maybe you should get a sense of humor about the matter.

Know what I find interesting?

Most of the Rowboat jokes come out of America, where French people all live in the arse-end of Canada. In England, where French is a kind of bread and a strong swimmer can get to France in a few hours, Roboute seems perfectly reasonable.

Magnus the Big Magus on the other hand...

You've got to remember that the names were written at a time when the company was small and didn't take itself seriously, like naming ghazkull thrakka after Margaret Thatcher, the Rock after rock city, and kislev characters called dorjetski. Huge pinches of salt needed.

Also row- bootie girlyman is the silliest

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I honestly can't see why Roboute Guilliman's name is seen as a silly name. There is no inherent reference in the name, unlike Lion, Ferrus, Angron, Corax, Sanguinius, or Perturabo's. I just think that it's just offspill of Ultra-hate.

I'm with you. I don't see what's silly about Guilliman. I hate all the 'rowboat' and 'girlyman' stuff.

Maybe you should get a sense of humor about the matter.

I have a perfectly functional sense of humour. It tends to stop working when I read the exact same 'joke' God knows how many times.

 JamesY wrote:
You've got to remember that the names were written at a time when the company was small and didn't take itself seriously, like naming ghazkull thrakka after Margaret Thatcher, the Rock after rock city, and kislev characters called dorjetski. Huge pinches of salt needed.

Also row- bootie girlyman is the silliest

I always thought Thraka was named after thraka from Watership Down.it literally means crap there. And you are right Rowboat Girlyman is a very silly name.


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 Furyou Miko wrote:
Know what I find interesting?

Most of the Rowboat jokes come out of America, where French people all live in the arse-end of Canada. In England, where French is a kind of bread and a strong swimmer can get to France in a few hours, Roboute seems perfectly reasonable.

Magnus the Big Magus on the other hand...

I live in Norway. And the current chess-master of the world is named Magnus Carlsen. Think about that for a minute. And I find Robot-jokes funny.


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 ImAGeek wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I honestly can't see why Roboute Guilliman's name is seen as a silly name. There is no inherent reference in the name, unlike Lion, Ferrus, Angron, Corax, Sanguinius, or Perturabo's. I just think that it's just offspill of Ultra-hate.

I'm with you. I don't see what's silly about Guilliman. I hate all the 'rowboat' and 'girlyman' stuff.

Maybe you should get a sense of humor about the matter.

I have a perfectly functional sense of humour. It tends to stop working when I read the exact same 'joke' God knows how many times.

Honest to God, you don't come across to me as someone with a sense of humor.

That's because we're talking about one of those 'jokes' that gets parroted around God knows how many times in any thread about the Primarchs. Nothing to do with my sense of humour, it just isn't funny.

But by all means, make baseless assumptions about me.

Agreed with ImAGeek here.
My sense of humour is functioning fine, but when I hear the same thing repeated over and over, without any reason other than because "ultrasmurfs suck hurr durr feth matt ward spiritual liege that" it can be a wee bit irritating.
I can't see anything wrong with the name, as I've mentioned before in more detail, especially when the only thing wrong with it is people's interpretation of how it is pronounced and that the pronunciation somehow happens to sound like Rawbutt Girlyman (which I have never associated when reading Roboute Guilliman myself). But sure, because a mispronounced name is more silly than a Primarch of the Iron Hands with Iron Hands called Iron Hand, or one who is really really angry, so guess what they called him?
Just putting that out there.

You know the two of you together come off as the same vibe as the grumpy old men at Muppet Show. Maybe you should go on tour together. As you seem to fit together like a couple that has been married for like fifty damn years and helps eachother with that disgusting plastic-bag they have used for the last ten years at the local grocer.

You are the epitome of stop having fun guys. I mean you are like: "Poor me, this ain't funny at all, stop doing this as I don't like this." Lay in a very whiny and annoying voice there.

@Beaviz81 hey buddy I like your signature. Maybe you should consider doing as it says.

If you have nothing nice to say then say frakking nothing.

Er, yes - RULE #1 here please.

I got to give this to Ferrus Bueller.

 Redcruisair wrote:
@Beaviz81 hey buddy I like your signature. Maybe you should consider doing as it says.

If you have nothing nice to say then say frakking nothing.

All I did was point out that two guys are moaning instead of doing anything constructive and being fairly humorous about the matter as Muppet Show is funny.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 Redcruisair wrote:
@Beaviz81 hey buddy I like your signature. Maybe you should consider doing as it says.

If you have nothing nice to say then say frakking nothing.

All I did was point out that two guys are giving an opinion which happens to contradict yours instead of agreeing with your views and being fairly humorous about the matter as Muppet Show is funny.

Edited.
Either way, the poll says what it says, so no complaints from me. However, a fair amount of British/French/European gamers seem to find Guilliman's name quite normal.
I think Furyou hit on a good point there.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 Redcruisair wrote:
@Beaviz81 hey buddy I like your signature. Maybe you should consider doing as it says.

If you have nothing nice to say then say frakking nothing.

All I did was point out that two guys are giving an opinion which happens to contradict yours instead of agreeing with your views and being fairly humorous about the matter as Muppet Show is funny.

Edited.
Either way, the poll says what it says, so no complaints from me. However, a fair amount of British/French/European gamers seem to find Guilliman's name quite normal.
I think Furyou hit on a good point there.

Ever come across anyone named Guilliman? I bet not. I have mentioned a guy named Magnus, He is the current chessmaster of the world. And both of his names are as common as sliced bread here in Norway. Ever heard about Robute? I bet not. And I'm European, so you just posted bullcrap. You can say its hater-fluff, but not that it is regionally. Thats racist.

Just because Magnus is a real name and Guilliman isn't, it doesn't neccesarily follow that Guilliman sounds sillier. There's plenty of silly sounding real names, and plenty of sensible sounding fictional names.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Just because Magnus is a real name and Guilliman isn't, it doesn't neccesarily follow that Guilliman sounds sillier. There's plenty of silly sounding real names, and plenty of sensible sounding fictional names.

Then name examples.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Just because Magnus is a real name and Guilliman isn't, it doesn't neccesarily follow that Guilliman sounds sillier. There's plenty of silly sounding real names, and plenty of sensible sounding fictional names.

Then name examples.

Roboute Guilliman.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Just because Magnus is a real name and Guilliman isn't, it doesn't neccesarily follow that Guilliman sounds sillier. There's plenty of silly sounding real names, and plenty of sensible sounding fictional names.

Then name examples.

Roboute Guilliman.

Not a name you give to even your worst enemy. Get on with it and produce something else.

It's really not that bad. It sounds normal. It sounds foreign, but like a proper name.

 ImAGeek wrote:
It's really not that bad. It sounds normal. It sounds foreign, but like a proper name.

You provide opinion not evidence.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
It's really not that bad. It sounds normal. It sounds foreign, but like a proper name.

You provide opinion not evidence.

This whole discussion is about opinion, I can't give evidence for my opinion, you just need to accept some people have different opinions to you.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
It's really not that bad. It sounds normal. It sounds foreign, but like a proper name.

You provide opinion not evidence.

This whole discussion is about opinion, I can't give evidence for my opinion, you just need to accept some people have different opinions to you.

Yeah and you must learn to see Rowboat Girlyman without moaning. This swings both ways.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
It's really not that bad. It sounds normal. It sounds foreign, but like a proper name.

You provide opinion not evidence.

This whole discussion is about opinion, I can't give evidence for my opinion, you just need to accept some people have different opinions to you.

Yeah and you must learn to see Rowboat Girlyman without moaning. This swings both ways.

I hardly moaned, I just stated once that it annoyed me. You then blew it out of proportion, made huge assumptions and was quite rude for no reason. It's pointless and unfunny and seeing it over and over again is irritating. Pardon me for saying so.

Have you done anything to make me change my view of you? And were were I rude? I compared you and Sludge to the two grumpy old men for good reason (at least in my mind which in their own way are funny). You need to re-think yourself and learn to roll with the punches. I still think you and Sludge as I kinda imagine you two wrapping the groceries in a ten year old plastic-bag like every old couple I see at my local grocer.

And I guess we doesn't see eye to eye on funny.

Why should i do anything to make me change your view of me? I've told you it's wrong and frankly you've not really given me an opportunity to, if I were going to go out of my way to do so.

I guess we don't but I accept that, you seem unable to.

With the best if intentions, could you please read my name a little more closely?
Either way, we disagree. Great. Can we stop cluttering the thread please?

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
With the best if intentions, could you please read my name a little more closely?
Either way, we disagree. Great. Can we stop cluttering the thread please?

Oh crap, It was Smudge, not Sludge?. Well I'm sorry for the misunderstanding and can only blame dyslexia for that one and what my scrambled brain thought was more funny. Well it would be more funny if you for no good reasons changed your nick, but I guess the MODs would mind. Sorry I often just look at the first and last letter and jump to conclusions.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
With the best if intentions, could you please read my name a little more closely?
Either way, we disagree. Great. Can we stop cluttering the thread please?

Oh crap, It was Smudge, not Sludge?. Well I'm sorry for the misunderstanding and can only blame dyslexia for that one and what my scrambled brain thought was more funny. Well it would be more funny if you for no good reasons changed your nick, but I guess the MODs would mind. Sorry I often just look at the first and last letter and jump to conclusions.

Don't worry about it!