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When we went between FOBs we used CH-53s or V-22s. When we flew out to Leatherneck on our way back out of the country we took a C-130.....and it was hilarious. Pilot lost his nerve when we started taking SAF and did a combat take off....nobody had buckled in and bodies/gear/weapons went flying around the inside of that baby like confetti. Amazing nobody got hurt.

All fix wing aircraft's do combat take off regardless. As in your situation the pilots were laughing their ass off. Where/what was the load master doing

Mind you I use to crew and have taken part in similar stunts

 Ghazkuul wrote:
When we went between FOBs we used CH-53s or V-22s. When we flew out to Leatherneck on our way back out of the country we took a C-130.....and it was hilarious. Pilot lost his nerve when we started taking SAF and did a combat take off....nobody had buckled in and bodies/gear/weapons went flying around the inside of that baby like confetti. Amazing nobody got hurt.

Remember the critical thinking comment I made earlier?

Aircraft taking surface to air fire. Proceeds to do a combat take off.

Taking fire. Does combat take off.

His take away? Pilot lost his nerve.

Couldn't at all have been that he was following established procedure of what to do in that situation. No, just that he was some AF punk who couldn't hack it. *rolls eyes*

Military and civilian do Combat Take Off

 djones520 wrote:

 Ghazkuul wrote:
When we went between FOBs we used CH-53s or V-22s. When we flew out to Leatherneck on our way back out of the country we took a C-130.....and it was hilarious. Pilot lost his nerve when we started taking SAF and did a combat take off....nobody had buckled in and bodies/gear/weapons went flying around the inside of that baby like confetti. Amazing nobody got hurt.

Remember the critical thinking comment I made earlier?

Aircraft taking surface to air fire. Proceeds to do a combat take off.

Taking fire. Does combat take off.

His take away? Pilot lost his nerve.

Couldn't at all have been that he was following established procedure of what to do in that situation. No, just that he was some AF punk who couldn't hack it. *rolls eyes*

well 1: he was a MARINE PILOT! so calm down with the AF crap and 2: he did lose his nerve because it was SAF it wasn't even AA, we got shot at from about 800-1k yards away by some Talibs with AKs, not exactly a threat to a C-130. Do you guys live to pick apart things? calm down

 Ghazkuul wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 Ghazkuul wrote:
When we went between FOBs we used CH-53s or V-22s. When we flew out to Leatherneck on our way back out of the country we took a C-130.....and it was hilarious. Pilot lost his nerve when we started taking SAF and did a combat take off....nobody had buckled in and bodies/gear/weapons went flying around the inside of that baby like confetti. Amazing nobody got hurt.

Remember the critical thinking comment I made earlier?

Aircraft taking surface to air fire. Proceeds to do a combat take off.

Taking fire. Does combat take off.

His take away? Pilot lost his nerve.

Couldn't at all have been that he was following established procedure of what to do in that situation. No, just that he was some AF punk who couldn't hack it. *rolls eyes*

well 1: he was a MARINE PILOT! so calm down with the AF crap and 2: he did lose his nerve because it was SAF it wasn't even AA, we got shot at from about 800-1k yards away by some Talibs with AKs, not exactly a threat to a C-130. Do you guys live to pick apart things? calm down

A lucky shot could still do some damage, and it's probably better to do a combat take-off upon contact, rather than wait to see if they have anything heavier than an AK to shoot at you with.

let me put it this way. After 6 months their we pretty much destroyed anything bigger then an AK in our area. And yeah you can say a lucky shot could do damage but they pretty much would be bouncing off the airplane at that range

Regardless, we usually try to avoid combat take offs in our airplanes because it puts a lot of stress on the airplane and shortens the life of the markedly. And being Marines we can't afford new aircraft anytime soon

I thought the only C-130s the USMC had were tankers. Were they using those to transport you guys?

 CptJake wrote:
I thought the only C-130s the USMC had were tankers. Were they using those to transport you guys?

They are listed as Tanker squadrons but are actually a combination of both Tanker, Supply and Transport.

Side note: I actually don't remember who the hell flew us out for that particular movement, I had been up for about 20 hours getting everything ready. It very well could have been AF but I can't confirm, so I don't want to go on record saying it was USMC or USAF.

 Ghazkuul wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
I thought the only C-130s the USMC had were tankers. Were they using those to transport you guys?

They are listed as Tanker squadrons but are actually a combination of both Tanker, Supply and Transport.

Side note: I actually don't remember who the hell flew us out for that particular movement, I had been up for about 20 hours getting everything ready. It very well could have been AF but I can't confirm, so I don't want to go on record saying it was USMC or USAF.

Believe you had a Navy/Corp version of a C130. USMC had a their own aircraft area Kandahar Airfield
You also had UK C130 group across from them to by the that fly into Leatherneck/Bastion.

Edit

Your heavy stuff was flown into Kandahar by C17 and C5's (before they retired)
After the C5 another country with the capabilities of a C5 was used

Then they rolled out the Wire to Bastion/Leatherneck

USMC version of a Army AFSB was placed by us so we could coordinate together

Jihadin, I know that's old information, but let's not give away the entire base layout over an open forum.

I'm old school
So if I put out some um......well......some relics from the posts no one here.....well maybe a few will know how to....

Drive a few into the Nutjob column


Drive a few I'm "Insane"

 Jihadin wrote:

 Ghazkuul wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
I thought the only C-130s the USMC had were tankers. Were they using those to transport you guys?

They are listed as Tanker squadrons but are actually a combination of both Tanker, Supply and Transport.

Side note: I actually don't remember who the hell flew us out for that particular movement, I had been up for about 20 hours getting everything ready. It very well could have been AF but I can't confirm, so I don't want to go on record saying it was USMC or USAF.

Believe you had a Navy/Corp version of a C130. USMC had a their own aircraft area on the other side of Kandahar Airfield near DFAC 5
You also had UK C130 group across from them to by the ANAF hangars (consisting of four Hips and a Piper Cub) that fly into Leatherneck/Bastion.

Edit

Your heavy stuff was flown into Kandahar by C17 and C5's (before they retired)
After the C5 another country with the capabilities of a C5 was used

Then they rolled out the Wire to Bastion/Leatherneck

USMC version of a Army AFSB was placed by us so we could coordinate together

Just for clarity, the C-5s from that particular unit may have been retired, the Air Force still has a C-5 fleet.

I doubt the Taliban is really browsing Dakka, but I feel I wouldn't be doing my job as a OPSEC qualified officer if I didn't crack the whip every once in a while. Maybe just edit your post?

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:
I doubt the Taliban is really browsing Dakka, but I feel I wouldn't be doing my job as a OPSEC qualified officer if I didn't crack the whip every once in a while. Maybe just edit your post?

Well seeing as the Taliban already blew up a handful of aircraft on Bastion a few years ago, and since we know for a fact the base is laced with Taliban informants but yeah keep trying for opsec, and that wasn't being sarcastic.

It is against Orders/Regulations to take pictures of government buildings, it is against even more rules/laws/orders and regulations to take a picture of a SCIF. While attached to 2nd Rad BN we had a special kind of slow for a Sgt Major who decided to do Sgt Major PT one day that was basically a 8 mile run/scavenger hunt. one of the scavenger hunt objectives was "get a picture of the SCIF". I had to confiscate about a dozen cell phones that day and got to chew out the Sgt Major...albeit in a very polite manner

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:
Jihadin, I know that's old information, but let's not give away the entire base layout over an open forum.

It's too late, me and my crack-team of Russian Islamo-fascist Communist-Chinese Sith warriors are already en route.

Pray for mercy from your false God, American pig-dogs. The end is nigh!

 Ghazkuul wrote:


It is against Orders/Regulations to take pictures of government buildings, it is against even more rules/laws/orders and regulations to take a picture of a SCIF. While attached to 2nd Rad BN we had a special kind of slow for a Sgt Major who decided to do Sgt Major PT one day that was basically a 8 mile run/scavenger hunt. one of the scavenger hunt objectives was "get a picture of the SCIF". I had to confiscate about a dozen cell phones that day and got to chew out the Sgt Major...albeit in a very polite manner

And that's about what I have to say on the subject

 BlaxicanX wrote:

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:
Jihadin, I know that's old information, but let's not give away the entire base layout over an open forum.

It's too late, me and my crack-team of Russian Islamo-fascist Communist-Chinese Sith warriors are already en route.

Pray for mercy from your false God, American pig-dogs. The end is nigh!

Damn you..........I laughed and spilled my coffee

So is this thread done? It looks like its done...

Ok yep done. But next time just hit the yellow triangle on any last post, no need to spam the forum