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Same wounds, but also comes with a 4+ invuln, 2+BS, +1 attack and knows 2 powers instead of 1

Yes I agree, seems to be a good deal. We could use more of those

so a GM dreadknight with a greatsword and a gatling psylencer would come down to 275 points.

that's nice.

run two of them with a chaplain and go nuts .

only reason to take dreadknights again i think

Want to really see the bargain? Think of it as paying 30 pts to give a Grand Master a NDK suit (+3"M +2S +2T +6W) and the ability to take the "heavy" weapons (ranged and CC).

But it does turn him into a massive target instead of a Character which is easily hidden behind other units.

I'm beginning to wonder if this might be the new Rhino Rush. Having a bunch of Dreadknights crash your lines would be hard to counter.

 cuda1179 wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if this might be the new Rhino Rush. Having a bunch of Dreadknights crash your lines would be hard to counter.

How many attacks do they get per round? I'm willing to bet it's not enough to cut through some chaff units.

Nemo84 wrote:
But it does turn him into a massive target instead of a Character which is easily hidden behind other units.

as he is a character isent it so you cant target him if he is not the closest model? or does it change if he's wearing that dreadknight armour and he's suddenly towwering above normal units.

yowsaman wrote:

Nemo84 wrote:
But it does turn him into a massive target instead of a Character which is easily hidden behind other units.

as he is a character isent it so you cant target him if he is not the closest model? or does it change if he's wearing that dreadknight armour and he's suddenly towwering above normal units.

They lose that ability if they have over 9 wounds.

I'm just sitting here hoping for no price bump on psilencers or falcions.

I have the codex in hand now:

Can confirm that nothing has changed points wise with regards to weapons or units, aside from Terminators as previously discussed.

Dreadknight GM is indeed 190 points base.

Any point drops on HQ's?

Nope everything else is identical to the index, aside from the twin heavy plasma cannon on the Stormraven which almost doubled in price for some reason???

Chaplain comes in at 144 points base plus storm bolter. Crozius arcanum is free.

Sad, a pure gk battallion is going to be rough costing given we have no sub 100 hq's.

It is completely useless buy the codex.

Well, strategems and gear are new adds from what I understand. That said I'm just glad they didn't bump costs anywhere. I could do with a 1-2pt cut on strikes and termies but points staying the same and falcions/psilencers not going up makes me mostly happy. Lack of a sub-100 hq does hurt though.

Talking about serious stuff: did anybody follow the WHTV broadcast about Codex GK in the afternoon? What did they say?

So no changes to Psycannons? Disappointing. Guess that will go unused.

Is that limited plastic terminator chaplain featured a lot in the codex? Or is there only one picture of him?

I was wondering if they are showing him in the new codex, do you think they will release that model fully? Really hope so. It was quite difficult to get a hold of wasn't it?

Re-doing my custom chaplain to primaris size and the terminators weapon is beyond perfect for it, exactly the way the chaplain on my tattoo holds it.

He is featured in most of the 'Army Display' shots, and then once more in the showcase images labelled as 'converted Chaplain'.

This picture alongside 2 other converted heros is given the side note: "These Grey Knight Warriors have been built using characters from the Space Marines range of Citadel Miniatures"

Read into that however you like, but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Cheers ma mayn. Glad he's not just in that one 'converted' picture.

Really hope so anyway, I wonder why they wouldn't just use the finecast model since that's regularly available.

Ahwell, just another dream to add I suppose.

the finecast terminator chappy looks pretty bad ass as is though. I'd love to see it made plastic

Does anyone else have chaos pages in their codex? Starting on page 81 it switches from the dreadnaught to Kharn the Betrayer, then has 13 or 14 pages of chaos ending with a page that says "Scions of Chaos" then the next page is page 89 with the Grey Knights flyers. I'm actually missing Interceptors and some other units on the pages between 82-88.

Anyone else have this issue?

 Zarroc1733 wrote:
Does anyone else have chaos pages in their codex? Starting on page 81 it switches from the dreadnaught to Kharn the Betrayer, then has 13 or 14 pages of chaos ending with a page that says "Scions of Chaos" then the next page is page 89 with the Grey Knights flyers. I'm actually missing Interceptors and some other units on the pages between 82-88.

Anyone else have this issue?

Wow. That's crazy. Did you get in touch with GW Customer Service?

 theharrower wrote:

 Zarroc1733 wrote:
Does anyone else have chaos pages in their codex? Starting on page 81 it switches from the dreadnaught to Kharn the Betrayer, then has 13 or 14 pages of chaos ending with a page that says "Scions of Chaos" then the next page is page 89 with the Grey Knights flyers. I'm actually missing Interceptors and some other units on the pages between 82-88.

Anyone else have this issue?

Wow. That's crazy. Did you get in touch with GW Customer Service?

Haven't had a chance yet. They were closed when I realized and I have work today.

Hahaha

Your codex is tainted. Don't tell GW they will exterminatus your house

 Zarroc1733 wrote:
Does anyone else have chaos pages in their codex? Starting on page 81 it switches from the dreadnaught to Kharn the Betrayer, then has 13 or 14 pages of chaos ending with a page that says "Scions of Chaos" then the next page is page 89 with the Grey Knights flyers. I'm actually missing Interceptors and some other units on the pages between 82-88.

Anyone else have this issue?

A miss print. That will be worth $$$ some day.

The taint of chaos gets everywhere.

Not even the purest are inmaculate.

Thats the problem with chaos. It mark us all.

Spartacus wrote:
Hahaha

Your codex is tainted. Don't tell GW they will exterminatus your house

Kaldor Draigo and I are attempting to find the heretic and deal with them accordingly. If exterminatus is required then so be it.

 Sinji wrote:

 Zarroc1733 wrote:
Does anyone else have chaos pages in their codex? Starting on page 81 it switches from the dreadnaught to Kharn the Betrayer, then has 13 or 14 pages of chaos ending with a page that says "Scions of Chaos" then the next page is page 89 with the Grey Knights flyers. I'm actually missing Interceptors and some other units on the pages between 82-88.

Anyone else have this issue?

A miss print. That will be worth $$$ some day.

I hope so.

Is there any word on a Start Collecting box for Grey Knights?