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 Mymearan wrote:
Did I miss any credible rumours in this thread or is there a reason there are 5 pages based on "my local GW guy said"?

Because it's too early in the year for the annual "plastic Thunderhawk" thread.

Process wrote:
So apparently GW work to the calendar year as opposed to financial and in halves not quarters even though their release schedule breaks down quite well into quarters.

Their releases have followed the same pattern over the last couple of years so its probably fair to assume a big release will come around june/july to kick start the next year half. Just like the custodes release will hopefully kickstart this one (I also think there will be another Primarch before now and the end of this half).
Second half, a new boxset would make sense especially if it were to introduce a new sisters range (unconfirmed) and a new Slaanesh range (confirmed to be later half of 2018 by one of the design team) alongside a Fulgrim model.
Rinse and repeat in 2019 for Khorne.

Whether they do it or not, replacing DI would make sense in order to reduce production and push people towards the multipart kits, especially if they feel the DI models have covered their dev/production costs which i find it hard to believe they wont have.
Those who dont think plastic sister will happen- If GW don't capitalise on an all female major faction then they're plain leaving cash on the table...... and they're not gonna do that.

The one thing id say for sisters and Slanesh....be careful what you wish for- both will be getting the millennial treatment.

This has actually been confirmed? At the open day, I take it?

Wouldn't that be something.

 Mymearan wrote:
Did I miss any credible rumours in this thread or is there a reason there are 5 pages based on "my local GW guy said"?

Credible Sisters rumors don't exist, but if they did, no, nothing of any more substance than in the original post.

Model range hasn't been confirmed. But it is on record there's meant to be some sort of AoS event in the summer that's meant to deal with the fate of Slaneesh. So if there are models due, that will be the time.

Also, I don't know why I bother coming into the threads using those combinations of words. Every time I see them I get a spark of excitement and then the usual disappointment.

Cool, thanks. I don't doubt that the Slaanesh event will come with models, just hadn't read anywhere yet that it's confirmed to happen this summer.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Don’t forget, when they teaser the Magnus release in the dumpster, they also mentioned plastic Sisters. No rule about when they have to be released...then again, that could have been in reference to St. Celestine.

It was.

No it was a troll and they were proud of it afterward and even lied by pretending they didn't say "of battle" while the video is still online and anyone can check that they did.

 Chamberlain wrote:
I think there will need to be further changes. The sort of corset style, fleur-de-lis, bob haircuts and the like is just super generic.

Yeah, super generic. It's been done to death, just look at Starcraft, Halo, Gears of War, Doom, ...
Oh wait, that was the space marine .

 Sidstyler wrote:
I don't see what makes Sisters so "special" that they couldn't be in a starter set. They would play a lot like Marines do, I would think (just with more fire).

Models.
The stupid space marines model from the idiotic starter pack works for like 5 different dumb armies in this very unintelligent game because they are all the same things with different colors. That's why they will always use those model in the starter box. That way it gives new player more (stupid, meaningless, illusion of) choice on their fist army. Is it going to be red marine, green marine, blue marine, gray marine? Wow! I blame GW.

 Breotan wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
Did I miss any credible rumours in this thread or is there a reason there are 5 pages based on "my local GW guy said"?

Because it's too early in the year for the annual "plastic Thunderhawk" thread.

Pretty sure the new plastic sisters are going to be in a starter set with a plastic thunderhawk though.
My local GW guy told me this.

 Iron_Captain wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
Did I miss any credible rumours in this thread or is there a reason there are 5 pages based on "my local GW guy said"?

Because it's too early in the year for the annual "plastic Thunderhawk" thread.

Pretty sure the new plastic sisters are going to be in a starter set with a plastic thunderhawk though.
My local GW guy told me this.

Did anyone ever seriously think the plastic Thunderhawk could/would happen? I mean, yes, neat model, but totally impractical in 99% of games.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Don’t forget, when they teaser the Magnus release in the dumpster, they also mentioned plastic Sisters. No rule about when they have to be released...then again, that could have been in reference to St. Celestine.

It was.

No it was a troll and they were proud of it afterward and even lied by pretending they didn't say "of battle" while the video is still online and anyone can check that they did.

 Chamberlain wrote:
I think there will need to be further changes. The sort of corset style, fleur-de-lis, bob haircuts and the like is just super generic.

Yeah, super generic. It's been done to death, just look at Starcraft, Halo, Gears of War, Doom, ...
Oh wait, that was the space marine .

 Sidstyler wrote:
I don't see what makes Sisters so "special" that they couldn't be in a starter set. They would play a lot like Marines do, I would think (just with more fire).

Models.
The stupid space marines model from the idiotic starter pack works for like 5 different dumb armies in this very unintelligent game because they are all the same things with different colors. That's why they will always use those model in the starter box. That way it gives new player more (stupid, meaningless, illusion of) choice on their fist army. Is it going to be red marine, green marine, blue marine, gray marine? Wow! I blame GW.

Just to pile on, the idea that ANYTHING in this game is as unique or interesting aesthetically as Sisters of battle is an absolute joke. You can find literally millions of things across dozens of different lines that are close approximations of everything in 40k (yes, even admech) EXCEPT Sisters until recently when companies VERY DELIBERATELY copied their aesthetic. Ask any SoB player; until VERY recently it was impossible to find anything that even remotely resembled sisters but i could build a counts as army of pretty much any other race out of hasbro toys.

Not to mention the fact that 99% of everything in 40k that ISN'T an SoB is a ripoff of something else:

Tyranids=Aliens
Eldar=Space Elves
Dark Eldar= Space DARK elves
Necrons= Terminator
Admech+Inq+ Non-SoB adminstorum= Dune
Space Marine(all colors)=Space Marines. Pick one there's been millions
Chaos Space Marine= Marines with spikes on them
Daemons= Biblical demons
Orkz=LoTR Orcs+ Cockney accents

That whole discussion was absolutely ridiculous nonsense.

Let's stay on topic in here - such as it is - yes?

Thanks!

Plastic Sisters? I´ll eat a broom, if they ever get a whole new line of models.

 Alpharius wrote:
Let's stay on topic in here - such as it is - yes?

Thanks!

Realistically, this thread should be closed now though id imagine. Per 100% of other sister threads it devolves into rubbish/wishlisting/hearsay. And like 100% of previous sister threads, there is never any actual solid info besides " I heard this at my GW store !!!"

Real pictures, or real info or this is a wasted space!

GW have said when asked about more female representation in their model range that to trust them that 'the ship is slowly turning' .

But the proof is in the pudding as it were.
Your move GW, don't let us down.

 dan2026 wrote:
GW have said when asked about more female representation in their model range that to trust them that 'the ship is slowly turning' .

But the proof is in the pudding as it were.
Your move GW, don't let us down.

Well escher are here. and they look fantastic.
and a few femcasts as well.

lets see where this goes.

I heard something about GW opening up a new factory to address the production bottlenecks. I could imagine GW being hesitant to add major new armies until that is done, so they don't have too many kits go out of stock.

Are there any actual rumours left in the last 5 pages of this? Or just another sisters lamentation thread?

 Ratius wrote:
Are there any actual rumours left in the last 5 pages of this? Or just another sisters lamentation thread?

I'm suprised it even lasted this long. Any rumor thread that starts off referencing the source as any variation of the nebulous and always unreliable "store manager" should be locked with extreme prejudice, imo.

Process wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
This comes up every year at this time, with nothing to follow.

I think not much (if anything) has changed regarding SoB. They won't be updated in the foreseeable future

October 15, 2014

The Model Team

I spoke with Ali Morision about the future of Finecast/Metal traditional sculpting. He was very clear he could see no possibility of metal returning, although there might be a few more Finecast releases. I talked to him about the human art like quality of the old methods. His reply was that was what Forgeworld had taken on and that the Games Workshop Studio is now very much about plastic. I asked him how it was possible for them to make any money on the Limited Edition Plastic models. He said they made plenty of money off them, by the fist day of the release.
I also spoke to him about the possibility of new sisters of battle models. He said it wasn’t likely as there were not enough players collecting them. I pointed out this used to be true of Dark Eldar until they redid the range.

http://chaptermasters.com/warhammer-fest-epic-news-from-the-studio/


Buy the original SoB from GW while they are available, 3rd party models and/or support the occassional KS for new stuff.

A quote from 2014? What do you think they would have said if asked how many primarchs will be returning?

That's exactly my point. We know they had started work around 2013/14 on the first Primarchs. End of 2014 - when they should have started working on a new SoB range if it would be released this year, 3 years is a minimum for so many kits - head of the miniature department (afaik) said they don't think estimated sales would justify a new line. If that opinion has changed, great, but taken into consideration how long they have worked on the Dark Eldar revamp I would be surprised (in a good way) if we see a full SoB plastic range this soon. Fingers-crossed though.

 Ratius wrote:
Are there any actual rumours left in the last 5 pages of this? Or just another sisters lamentation thread?

No should be closed but Dakka Moderation Table Roll said it will be kept open for something like 1d20 pages or something idontknow dontaskme.

Warhams-77 wrote:

Process wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
This comes up every year at this time, with nothing to follow.

I think not much (if anything) has changed regarding SoB. They won't be updated in the foreseeable future

October 15, 2014

The Model Team

I spoke with Ali Morision about the future of Finecast/Metal traditional sculpting. He was very clear he could see no possibility of metal returning, although there might be a few more Finecast releases. I talked to him about the human art like quality of the old methods. His reply was that was what Forgeworld had taken on and that the Games Workshop Studio is now very much about plastic. I asked him how it was possible for them to make any money on the Limited Edition Plastic models. He said they made plenty of money off them, by the fist day of the release.
I also spoke to him about the possibility of new sisters of battle models. He said it wasn’t likely as there were not enough players collecting them. I pointed out this used to be true of Dark Eldar until they redid the range.

http://chaptermasters.com/warhammer-fest-epic-news-from-the-studio/


Buy the original SoB from GW while they are available, 3rd party models and/or support the occassional KS for new stuff.

A quote from 2014? What do you think they would have said if asked how many primarchs will be returning?

That's exactly my point. We know they had started work around 2013/14 on the first Primarchs. End of 2014 - when they should have started working on a new SoB range if it would be released this year, 3 years is a minimum for so many kits - head of the miniature department (afaik) said they don't think estimated sales would justify a new line. If that opinion has changed, great, but taken into consideration how long they have worked on the Dark Eldar revamp I would be surprised (in a good way) if we see a full SoB plastic range this soon. Fingers-crossed though.

But you've rather missed his I think - if you asked them in 2014 whether they were going to be releasing Primarchs, they would have denied it even though they were working on them at the time. Because that's what GW do, they deny and obfuscate and dissemble until a few months before the release(which is at least an improvement on Kirby-GW, who could swear blind something wasn't happening until the preorders went up even when there were sprue pics floating around online). And while I agree a Sisters army is highly unlikely, I don't think the obstacles to it are practical - they already have the basic CAD assets they need as a result of Celestine, they've already shown they can release and make money on "minifactions" like GSC, and by all accounts they were just as surprised by how well Celestine and Veridyan sold as they were by Custodes - they're psychological, they're based on received wisdom and flawed logic, but are no less insurmountable for all that.

tneva82 wrote:

GW releases what 3? good starter sets with miniatures and rules for 7th ed. How long that edition was alive?

Nitpick - Dark Vengeance was starter set for two whole editions. Masque, Baal, and whatever box wolfwolwes had were not starter sets but battleforces-lite, sure, they had mini rule book but all were more expensive than DV and had full size sprues (plus promo HQ mini), not snapfits...

I'm to the point where I'll believe plastic Sisters are coming the day they show up on the webstore for preorders. However, on that day, I will be starting a new army.

 EnTyme wrote:
I'm to the point where I'll believe plastic Sisters are coming the day they show up on the webstore for preorders. However, on that day, I will be starting a new army.

So you are like the old GW in reverse Around 2014 they would claim they have no plans of making SoB even if release would be week later with pics leaked online! So yeah what the studio said in 2014 isn't exactly convincing evidence. And of course after 2014 things could change easily...Like with good sales on the cannoness.

I've been hearing 'credible' plastic sisters rumors since I started playing in 2012.

At this point, I'm not going to believe in them being released until I am holding one.

And even then, I'll be a little suspicious.

But seriously, their rumor leaks have all been pretty much plugged. I don't even think ANYONE was predicting the custodes release. We barely know what's coming out next month, much less what's coming out this summer.

tneva82 wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
I'm to the point where I'll believe plastic Sisters are coming the day they show up on the webstore for preorders. However, on that day, I will be starting a new army.

So you are like the old GW in reverse

Heh. Not exactly. I wish GW would give us a similar release schedule to what FFG puts on their website. I'm just tired of being disappointed by "credible" SoB rumors. After the "red bin" video, I just don't trust Sisters rumors at all.

Not sure why so much weight is attached to Celestine sales or the resin Cannoness.

Celestine was sold in a pack with Cawl and the Inquisitor, both of which have much more use seeing the Ad Mech range had already been released and the Inquisition stuff had the Imperial Agents book, and prior books making it a useful addition. Theres no way you can impute Celestine led the sales drive of that box rather than one or the other of the other two models; or the simple fact it was a box of new and shiny, part 1 of 3, tied to a new hype driven campaign clearly pushing the story forward..

Similarly I wouldnt have read too much into the resin Cannoness other than it was an anniversary year so they dug up a classic image to reimagine, similar to Slambo, the Rogue Trader Marine and Rogue Trader Captain vignette. Why people telegraph a one off limited release item into anything more is beyond me. Its not like we got a full retro Rogue Trader inspired Marine of Crimson Fist release, or Slambo led to more classic Chaos Warrior models being released. The Cannoness could be nothing more than fan service in the anniversary year - pretty much how they advertised the model.

Cawl, ok, but Greyfax having more use than Celestine? Have you see some Imperial soup tournament lists?

And the difference with the Canoness and Slambo or the 30 year anniversary marine... is that the Canoness sould out. Very fast. And if all this Custodes release is just because the Custodes box sold really well... 2+2.

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Not sure why so much weight is attached to Celestine sales or the resin Cannoness.

Celestine was sold in a pack with Cawl and the Inquisitor, both of which have much more use seeing the Ad Mech range had already been released and the Inquisition stuff had the Imperial Agents book, and prior books making it a useful addition. Theres no way you can impute Celestine led the sales drive of that box rather than one or the other of the other two models; or the simple fact it was a box of new and shiny, part 1 of 3, tied to a new hype driven campaign clearly pushing the story forward..

Similarly I wouldnt have read too much into the resin Cannoness other than it was an anniversary year so they dug up a classic image to reimagine, similar to Slambo, the Rogue Trader Marine and Rogue Trader Captain vignette. Why people telegraph a one off limited release item into anything more is beyond me. Its not like we got a full retro Rogue Trader inspired Marine of Crimson Fist release, or Slambo led to more classic Chaos Warrior models being released. The Cannoness could be nothing more than fan service in the anniversary year - pretty much how they advertised the model.

Do you work for GW? Because you seem to share their ability to misrepresent data and leave money on the table.

Sisters models are being cast as they sell off, in limited runs. The fact that they go out of availability from time to time isn't because GW can't make enough. Its because they only make so much, sell it, make more.

This thread is horrible. How another "my GW store guy told me Plastic Sisters" gets passed off as rumor rather than BS is severely disappointing.

I have played Sisters since their first release day. I sincerely hope they NEVER come out in plastic.

They've also just had their miniature of the year poll on the website, from whats been posted on here the Cannoness seemed to have done fairly well in it. That could help the cause for future SoB releases.

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Not sure why so much weight is attached to Celestine sales or the resin Cannoness.

Celestine was sold in a pack with Cawl and the Inquisitor, both of which have much more use seeing the Ad Mech range had already been released and the Inquisition stuff had the Imperial Agents book, and prior books making it a useful addition. Theres no way you can impute Celestine led the sales drive of that box rather than one or the other of the other two models; or the simple fact it was a box of new and shiny, part 1 of 3, tied to a new hype driven campaign clearly pushing the story forward..

Similarly I wouldnt have read too much into the resin Cannoness other than it was an anniversary year so they dug up a classic image to reimagine, similar to Slambo, the Rogue Trader Marine and Rogue Trader Captain vignette. Why people telegraph a one off limited release item into anything more is beyond me. Its not like we got a full retro Rogue Trader inspired Marine of Crimson Fist release, or Slambo led to more classic Chaos Warrior models being released. The Cannoness could be nothing more than fan service in the anniversary year - pretty much how they advertised the model.

You can make your first argument about practically anything, including for a wee while there Custodes who most folk were buying as part of a big multibox with plastic MKIII Marines or a smaller multibox with Sisters of Silence. GW were still evidently able to infer from that that Custodes specifically were popular.

Weight is put on the second part because the rumour was they were extremely surprised by how well it sold for what it was, ie they expected it to be exactly what you described, a small nostalgia release, and it surpassed that by a noticeable enough amount to filter out of the company to us plebs.

And the reason people look at those two datapoints is because those are the only two recent datapoints, the point being that when you set aside all the logical but speculative arguments and rationales about the why's and wherefores of why Sisters are neglected and how they'd perform if they weren't and look at the two concrete examples we have, they released two Sisters products, whatever their format, and they sold well and were very well received.

Again though, we come back around to this: they managed to put out GSC, a faction I think it is fair to say had a significantly smaller "built in" fanbase than Sisters do even now, and it did well for them despite some issues like Aberrant availability and rules issues. I have yet to see a logical argument as to why they can do that - with absolutely no recent sales datapoints to back the initial decision at all - but would struggle to make money from a similar Sisters release.