Switch Theme:

[GF9] Aliens Boardgame - Pre-order Resin M577 APC (p. 5)  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in us
[MOD]
Solahma






RVA

Perhaps the paintjob is throwing you off. This is almost certainly resin.

   
Made in gb
Been Around the Block




MDF? Nah...This might be a prototype - would explain the lack of detailed information. Most likely resin but given the time span it could be planned as a plastic model. There is a garage kit available of the APC designed to fit the playing board (the interior of the 3D model matches the board).
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




it's the softness of the edges and lack of small details, but it matches the movie and is probably just the paint job
   
Made in gb
[DCM]
Battlefield Tourist





On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

My first thought was MDF too because it has that look to it - but I don't think a few of the component shapes would be possible with MDF (the ladder on the back for instance).

Epic 30K&40K! A new players guide, contributors welcome https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751316.page
Small but perfectly formed! A Great Crusade Epic 6mm project: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/694411.page
 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut






The last of details could mean it is plastic, though the plastic of the marines rather than the Prodos plastic.
   
Made in gb
[DCM]
Stonecold Gimster






It looks like mdf to me too in the pics. The top looks removable, but if that was the case they'd show off interior details surely.
Seeing as figures need to go in the model in fixed spaces in the game, I wonder if this is an open or sealed model.
I don't fancy spending £40 on a model and not know what it's made of either.

My Painting Blog: http://gimgamgoo.com/
Currently most played: Kill Team, Kings of War, Silent Death, Beyond the Gates of Antares, Dracula's America, Bolt Action (& K47) and X-Wing 
   
Made in gb
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot




UK



I don't know if the page has been updated since others looked but it clearly states multi part resin as of the two minutes ago I clicked the link.

   
Made in us
[MOD]
Solahma






RVA

That’s new info.

   
Made in gb
[DCM]
Stonecold Gimster






alphaecho wrote:


I don't know if the page has been updated since others looked but it clearly states multi part resin as of the two minutes ago I clicked the link.


I think they've added the resin part and dimensions.

Personally with all those really large flat panels, I dread to think of the resin warping nightmare this will bring.


My Painting Blog: http://gimgamgoo.com/
Currently most played: Kill Team, Kings of War, Silent Death, Beyond the Gates of Antares, Dracula's America, Bolt Action (& K47) and X-Wing 
   
Made in si
Ravenous Beast Form







How does this work in a board game on cardboard tiles?

Posters on ignore list: 34

40k Potica Edition - 40k patch with reactions, suppression and all that good stuff. Feedback thread here.

Gangs of Nu Ork - Necromunda / Gorkamorka expansion supporting all faction. Feedback thread here
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Solahma






RVA

It doesn’t, basically.

   
Made in gb
[DCM]
Stonecold Gimster






Apparently GF9 have posted on their fb page that it doesn't have an interior.
So, other than a piece of terrain to replace the image on the board, it's fairly useless.

Wish they'd made one like the one on the right in this pic that someone posted in the fb group. Now that would be useful.


My Painting Blog: http://gimgamgoo.com/
Currently most played: Kill Team, Kings of War, Silent Death, Beyond the Gates of Antares, Dracula's America, Bolt Action (& K47) and X-Wing 
   
Made in gb
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot




UK

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
alphaecho wrote:


I don't know if the page has been updated since others looked but it clearly states multi part resin as of the two minutes ago I clicked the link.


I think they've added the resin part and dimensions.





I'm so glad I didn't jump in with some rant about how people don't read or follow links and require spoonfeeding in that case.

   
Made in gb
Been Around the Block




It's resin. No interior. Not designed for gameplay. Shaun Allen's is a better bet if you want one for gameplay (message him on FB) but I will buy one anyway as it's another Aliens APC to add to my small collection and I'll only regret not getting one when it ceases production!. A couple more pics of Shaun's below (I'm buying one of Shaun's too although I may have to replace the too small front turret - reduced in size to match the APC on the card I suspect)...


   
Made in gb
[DCM]
Battlefield Tourist





On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

That's super cool Dwartist, lovely looking model and I like the effort on the interior.

What game do you use that with can I ask?

Epic 30K&40K! A new players guide, contributors welcome https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751316.page
Small but perfectly formed! A Great Crusade Epic 6mm project: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/694411.page
 
   
Made in us
Haughty Harad Serpent Rider





Richmond, VA

 Pacific wrote:
That's super cool Dwartist, lovely looking model and I like the effort on the interior.

What game do you use that with can I ask?


The game for this thread

"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke 
   
Made in gb
[DCM]
Battlefield Tourist





On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

Hah! I was looking at the specified spaces inside the APC - looking like it was for some other rule system, is that one of the other missions in this game?

Epic 30K&40K! A new players guide, contributors welcome https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751316.page
Small but perfectly formed! A Great Crusade Epic 6mm project: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/694411.page
 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut






It is for use in the GAFHYB expansion:

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/02/19 10:22:02


 
   
Made in nz
Infiltrating Broodlord





R'lyeh

Placed an order with GF9 in January, but I never received an email and have not been charged. Now that I look at my account, it shows no order history either.

Anyone else ever had this issue?

RevlidRas wrote:
The current state of Necrons is all a random lark by the Deceiver, who reprogrammed all the Lords to believe they beat the C'tan aeons ago, replaced their personality engrams with those of unused villains from Brendan Fraser's The Mummy series, coated everything in cheap bling, and even managed to convince them that they actually use clearly satirical units like the Tomb Blades.
 
   
Made in us
Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes





Southern California

 Ktulhut wrote:
Placed an order with GF9 in January, but I never received an email and have not been charged. Now that I look at my account, it shows no order history either.

Anyone else ever had this issue?


Here's my recent experience ordering from the US.

I placed an order Feb. 19 directly with GF9, with no confirmation email from them. My credit card got charged a week later, so I sent customer service a request for tracking number on Feb. 26. There was an auto-response, but no tracking information until Mar. 3rd, which was two days after the package arrived.

All transactions came from "Battlefront" instead of GF9.

Everything came as ordered in good condition, but odd experience that no order confirmation was sent and they took so long to process payment.

   
Made in gb
Mighty Gouge-Horn




Anor Londo

Went onto the GF9 website and saw that the two expansions are either sold out or almost sold out. I'd been on the fence about getting the game but seeing this totally spooked me out into buying the game plus expansions from Amazon.

It was money that I can't really afford, but Tomorrow ULM can worry about that.
   
Made in gb
[DCM]
Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

 Ktulhut wrote:
Placed an order with GF9 in January, but I never received an email and have not been charged. Now that I look at my account, it shows no order history either.

Anyone else ever had this issue?


yes, I ordered in January, got confirmation email and then nothing

GF9 claimed they'd tried to take payment and It had bounced so they'd tried emailing and got no response and eventually cancelled the order.

When I checked here was no record of my transaction on my credit card (and I would have been charged a penalty for a bounced transaction), and even on rechecking my spam no email from them either. So I think it's much more likely they had an it problem and never tried to process the order

 
   
Made in us
VF-1S Valkyrie Squadron Commander





Mississippi

I've had serious problems in the past with G9/Battlefront (nearly a year to get D&D spell cards from them - site indicated they were in stock but found out they were waiting on reprints, and three rounds of packages to finally get the right cards for my Arcane set) and never order directly from them. Quite frankly, their customer service is abysmal.

It never ends well 
   
Made in nz
Infiltrating Broodlord





R'lyeh

Unfortunate that you've all had trouble with them too, but good to know I'm not alone. I'll try to find somewhere local who can get it for me, but otherwise I'll have to just wear the cost of shipping to NZ from Amazon or Ebay, since it doesn't seem to be worth bothering with the company directly.

RevlidRas wrote:
The current state of Necrons is all a random lark by the Deceiver, who reprogrammed all the Lords to believe they beat the C'tan aeons ago, replaced their personality engrams with those of unused villains from Brendan Fraser's The Mummy series, coated everything in cheap bling, and even managed to convince them that they actually use clearly satirical units like the Tomb Blades.
 
   
Made in us
Ancient Venerable Dreadnought





The Beach

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Anyone have thoughts on gameplay?


It's a'ight. Mechanically it works, with a bit of resource management due to the Endurance deck As a simple little tactical shooter, it's fun. You can break this out with 1-2 friends and have a good time quoting lines from the movie and rolling dice.

But there was a lot of polish needed.

The difficulty is really wonky. The designers seemed to think Heroes made the game easier, so make you draw more Motion Tracker cards as you add players. But the advantage a Hero gives is not directly proportional to the difficulty increase of drawing more cards. Some of the Heroes actually make the game harder. Because of this, it isn't a game you can just pull out with your 5 buddies. A 6 player game requires a lot of coordination and experience to win. To put it in video game terms, a 3 Hero game is playing at Easy difficulty. A 6 Hero game is Nightmare. Not every Hero gets significantly better like Vasquez, Drake, and Ripley do. Most have only a modest boost. On average, Heroes only get about 10% increase to their success chances (some hardly change, like Hudson or Apone) stats-wise, and possibly gain a useful ability. But they also tend to draw Endurance cards, which adds to the rate of Hazards and diminishes the Endurance deck. If every Hero was as good as the four or five strongest Heroes, it would work. But even in the base game, you're stuck with Gorman, who is very mediocre, and highly likely to draw one or more Hazards over the course of a game. Adding Hero Gorman isn't the same as adding Hero Vasquez, but the game treats him like it is. Same with Wierzbowski, Crowe and Burke from UB. They aren't making the game significantly easier by being Heroes; in many ways, they (especially Burke who is awful) actually make it harder. Bishop has a great Tech and a solid ability, but he can't fight, and almost indistinguishable as a Grunt. So he's clearly not balanced against drawing an additional MT card if he is played as a Hero.

The variation of value of the Heroes is so stark, I literally put an article together to hammer out which characters are actually worth using, and which ones actually just make the game harder: https://veteransergeant.wordpress.com/2021/02/25/best-heroes-and-grunts-for-aliens-another-glorious-day-in-the-corps-ranked/

Solo Players can just choose their level of difficulty by just choosing their number of Heroes to use, which makes the RAW "fine." People trying to have a casual game with their buddies are in for a rude awakening trying to play a 6 player game unless they're all dedicated wargames already, lol. And that is the problem. I usually play board games with 4 or 5 people. We have a well ventilated outdoor space (and everyone works from home) so we have actually played real life 5 player games, and it is brutal. Never finished the first mission without losing at least one character, and that's stacking the team with the best characters. When I just played with my neighbor, we had an entirely different experience where clever tactics make it a breeze to finish games without casualties. I played Extended Mission 1 with the Movie Cast (Ripley, Hicks, Drake, Frost, Gorman and Bishop), using 2 Heroes and drawing 3 cards, and it was a solid win with no losses despite having one character who can't fight (Bishop), and another is among the poorest characters in the game (Gorman). Replaying it drawing 5 MT cards but with Vasquez instead of Gorman and Hudson instead of Frost, and we had two characters captured. The lack of a steady difficulty level is one of this game's biggest flaws.

It also isn't a great value. Just buying the Core Set, it doesn't feel like a complete game. The $60 price tag is a bit misleading. You need all three to actually feel like a complete experience, so this is a $150 game. But quality and sophistication-wise, it doesn't feel like a $150 game. Ultimate Badasses is way overpriced. It should have been $15, not $30. It really shouldn't even exist, and those characters should have been split between the Core Set and the GAFYHB expansion. So that part isn't good. Given the fact that the models bought separately are $2 each, paying $18 for the cardboard and some tiny cardstock is a total scam. But playing the game without those characters kinda sucks. Especially if you have Get Away and the expanded missions, you will need the extra manpower for replacement characters.

The Experience Cards in the Ultimate Badasses expansion don't seem very well tested, and in general make the game much easier. You also accumulate them much faster than makes much sense. These guys are quick learners. If they were more smartly implemented, or limited to one card per character for a customizable feel, I think I would like them more.

At the $150 price point for the whole game, the miniatures aren't great. They are soft on detail, the Aliens have effectively 2 body poses, and all their arms are in "invisible gift box" pose. If this was a $60 game, they would be fine. With another $90 hidden in the price tag with the expansions, they're not great. Look at the quality of Nemesis or the Prodos AvP models, it's not even close. Since I already had the far superior AvP models, I literally only used Ripley and Bishop from this game. The others got sold off.

Stacking tokens is dumb, and the models often tip over. I moved to using small dice for the 3-5 token swams, and the Stalker (dog/ox) Aliens from the Prodos game for the 1-2 token ones.

The biggest knock is that thematically, the only thing that feels "Aliens" are the pieces, and the pictures/words on cards. As a game, it is basically a Zombie Game. You could replace the Aliens with zombies, wolves, demons, squigs, genestealers, whatever, and the game would feel the exact same. The Aliens aren't clever, there isn't any effect of acid blood, etc. Aliens run at you, and you shoot them.
It's a co-op Space Hulk without the balance and the elegant simplicity. One of the market-full of zombie games, but with models that have long tails that will catch on all the other alien tails around them, The difficulty is wonky as hell, because it scales with player count.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/03/27 02:31:57


Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?

True Scale Space Marines: Tutorial, Posing, Conversions and other madness. The Brief and Humorous History of the Horus Heresy

 
   
Made in gb
[DCM]
Battlefield Tourist





On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

Just painting up the marines for this game. Has quite a few people have commented, they aren't as good as the Prodos marines (smaller scale and lighter on detail) but I think as board game pieces they are fine.

The Aliens are excellent. I actually kept a few of the AvP aliens previously after I sold the rest of that set (I couldn't get on with the game itself) and you would be hard pressed to tell the difference - those aliens have now been press-ganged into AGDITC!

Looking forward to getting a first game in. In terms of the expansion packs, would people recommend the Ultimate Badass expansion as the first one to get?

The boxset with the computers, face hugger eggs etc. looks like a good buy for that value too.

Epic 30K&40K! A new players guide, contributors welcome https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751316.page
Small but perfectly formed! A Great Crusade Epic 6mm project: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/694411.page
 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut






The computer box is excellent value. As for the game itself and expansions, I would recommend trying the main game first. Personally, I was not all that impressed with it.

I'll add one thing to Veteran Sergeant's list. I think the game would be much better with an overwatch command. As things stand, there is nothing you can do to harm an alien when it moves closer to you. As such, it does not matter if an alien is one square away or five squares away at the end of the marine turn, the result is the same, namely the alien can move into base contact and attack once. Instead of having overwatch as an action, each model automatically (no need to spend action points) has a passive overwatch. They can automatically make an attack once the alien move adjacent to them but before the alien can attack. This gives good reason to bunch up your models, so that every time an alien gets close you can passively overwatch attack with three or four models. So I find the game is much less about positioning models across a map and is more about slowly moving one big group of models across the map.
   
Made in gb
[DCM]
Trustworthy Shas'vre





Leicester

By the way, has anyone who ordered the APC received it yet? I had an email a couple of weeks ago that sort of looked like a dispatch email, but not entirely. Didn’t know if it was a confirmation at the end of the pre-order period or if I should be chasing a missing package?

DS:80+S+GM+B+I+Pw40k08D+A++WD355R+T(M)DM+
 Zed wrote:
*All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
 
   
Made in gb
[DCM]
Battlefield Tourist





On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

Thanks for the replies guys. I'll make sure I play the core game then before expanding it. I take it I won't be losing out in terms of the mission order/narrative by not getting Ultimate Badasses? Just thinking there are a number of characters in the UB set (Apone etc.) that get killed in the first 'encounter' in the film, have no idea if this has any bearing on the game structure!

Interesting comments Veteran Sergeant on the difficulty level. What would a sweet spot be for play, do you think 4 crap/prone to mistakes and lack of concentration players could get on with the game with that number?

Epic 30K&40K! A new players guide, contributors welcome https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751316.page
Small but perfectly formed! A Great Crusade Epic 6mm project: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/694411.page
 
   
Made in ie
Regular Dakkanaut





Ireland

GF9 announced yesterday that they’re doing a big restock of the game (as it was starting hard to get). Hoping to pick up the queen/power lifter expansion now.
   
 
Forum Index » News & Rumors
Go to: