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Yes, I've just looked and it says images removed at the request of the copyright owner. Incoming from GW's legal team, Yak!

EDIT - Even the names of the new stuff has been blacked out / blurred

Supposedly they're doing some kind of live video about this release, maybe taking the pictures down is somehow related to that?

Dr. Delorean wrote:Supposedly they're doing some kind of live video about this release, maybe taking the pictures down is somehow related to that?

It specifically says "images removed at the request of the copyright owner" which is presumably GW

Flashman wrote:Yes, I've just looked and it says images removed at the request of the copyright owner. Incoming from GW's legal team, Yak!

EDIT - Even the names of the new stuff has been blacked out / blurred

This is so pathetic, it almost makes me not want to buy into the release.

I've just found this strange video from BOW;

http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/new-necron-megalith-revealed/

blood reaper wrote:I've just found this strange video from BOW;

http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/new-necron-megalith-revealed/

Yes, I watched that. I think they're pulling GW's chain

blood reaper wrote:I've just found this strange video from BOW;

http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/new-necron-megalith-revealed/

what the hell did I just see? I hope this is not true, as it looks like a giant gimmick machine.

I suspected that this would happen so when I was writing an article about those leaked pics, I copied them instead of linking.

http://podgk.pl/kontuar/warhammer-40k-necrons-juz-w-listopadzie-mamy-fotki/

I wonder how fast will GW poke our chief editor to take those down as well

PS: You can select language but translator is google based and it won't be a pleasant read

My main fear with the necrons is point wise. I wonder if they will remain really expensive to take to the battlefield once again...

In my local game shop we play at a standard of 1500pts...I wonder how many things we will be able to take with those

I'm quite sure its fake, it does not look real.

Kilink wrote:My main fear with the necrons is point wise. I wonder if they will remain really expensive to take to the battlefield once again...

In my local game shop we play at a standard of 1500pts...I wonder how many things we will be able to take with those

i think all that's been "confirmed" so far is that Warriors and Immortal will be cheaper (by about 20% i think...can't remember now) and Wraiths will be about the same (but with bigger units and Rending included)

I don't understand what Beasts of War is trying to do with that new video. Is that a joke?

blood reaper wrote:I've just found this strange video from BOW;

http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/new-necron-megalith-revealed/

That was posted on april first. lol

Praxiss wrote:

Kilink wrote:My main fear with the necrons is point wise. I wonder if they will remain really expensive to take to the battlefield once again...

In my local game shop we play at a standard of 1500pts...I wonder how many things we will be able to take with those

i think all that's been "confirmed" so far is that Warriors and Immortal will be cheaper (by about 20% i think...can't remember now) and Wraiths will be about the same (but with bigger units and Rending included)

Yes I know that but assuming we take the minimum troop choices and a Necron Overlord as HQ we would be talking about 120 points+ whatever the necron lord costs with his upgrades. I'm wondering if heavy support and dedicated transports are as cheap as the troops...

Ysclyth wrote:

blood reaper wrote:I've just found this strange video from BOW;

http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/new-necron-megalith-revealed/

That was posted on april first. lol

DAM YOU BEASTS OF WAR!

blood reaper wrote:I've just found this strange video from BOW;

http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/new-necron-megalith-revealed/

Seeing as it is made of a monolith, some cities of death terrain, some fantasy terrain and a few tyranids I doubt it is genuine

Yes, as I stated it's just BoW sticking two fingers up at GW for making them take down the images.

What makes me sadly chuckle, is GW is doing its usual come down on the situation with a ten ton hammer, where as if they stopped for a second.

How much of a buzz have these images given the community, how many folks are now talking about getting Necrons.

Are they really that blind, they can't see the connection. Or understand why in New York Comic Con just passed both Marvel and DC where scrambling to spoiler upcoming stories to build a buzz for them.

Just makes you shake your head that some of these people have got into such positions running 'any' company, never mind one that always thrived and grew on its fans backing and supporting the product, even before the Net.

Yeah, GW are being twits doing that. People are advertising their new products and getting people to buy them, should GW not be happy?

blood reaper wrote:Yeah, GW are being twits doing that. People are advertising their new products and getting people to buy them, should GW not be happy?

No publicity is bad publicity, them forcing it to be taken down, has us talking about it. When they come up on the GW site, we'll be talking about it. Leaks are more often than not manufactured for this very reason.

Ysclyth wrote:

blood reaper wrote:Yeah, GW are being twits doing that. People are advertising their new products and getting people to buy them, should GW not be happy?

No publicity is bad publicity, them forcing it to be taken down, has us talking about it. When they come up on the GW site, we'll be talking about it. Leaks are more often than not manufactured for this very reason.

Good call. I'm halfway through this "Megalith" video, and I'm laughing. So hard.

This will almost certainly be down to watermarking the copyrighted images from next months WD to feth with BoW logos.

In that regard, BoW are totally out of order.

This is epic. I still wonder how things get leaked.

Just played a game with the modded Warriors and Immortals and rending Wraiths VS DE. My mate won 10 KP's to 9, but it was a very close, bloody and enjoyable game.

Just a quick question for Yak, are the Wraiths still S6 I6 as standard or is this only available via wargear i.e. the rumoured whips?

Kilink wrote:

Praxiss wrote:

Kilink wrote:My main fear with the necrons is point wise. I wonder if they will remain really expensive to take to the battlefield once again...

In my local game shop we play at a standard of 1500pts...I wonder how many things we will be able to take with those

i think all that's been "confirmed" so far is that Warriors and Immortal will be cheaper (by about 20% i think...can't remember now) and Wraiths will be about the same (but with bigger units and Rending included)

Yes I know that but assuming we take the minimum troop choices and a Necron Overlord as HQ we would be talking about 120 points+ whatever the necron lord costs with his upgrades. I'm wondering if heavy support and dedicated transports are as cheap as the troops...

I think Yak said in an earlier post that the Monolith is going to be a few points cheaper. The H-Destroyer is now an add-on for Destroyer sqauds so i'm guessing they will be moved to Fast Attack. I dont think anythgin has been mentioned about points for the rest of the Heavy stuff yet, but so far the existing unit have either stayed the same or gotten cheaper so hopefully this will cary through to the Spyders as well.

What a load of BS

yakface wrote:

• Heavy Destroyers are still 36" S9 shots.

I just want to point out that heavy destroyers are 48" in the current edition.

I keep coming up with questions while test rolling for these new rules -heres another one: I thought I read somewhere that entropic strike ignores armor saves on rolls of 4+ that also cause wounds (to wound values are still SvT based). Is there any validity to that or was that a falsehood sprinkled amongst early rumors?

Hi all, been lurking since the leaks for new necrons came in, finally got vaught up on the thread (yes i read it all lol)

First like many others want to say thanks for all th hard work giving us all this information to yak and kroot.

I have to say though im overall very saddened by what we know of the new codex so far and yes i DO prefer the old one.

1) I loved the old fluff of a legion of uniform ancient evil robots threatening everything - yes I can still play this in game play terms, but not in fluff terms as that simply isnt the case anymore (lots of fractured worlds not the single big threat).

2) main army i prefered (even though its not the best under current rules) is the warrior horde backed by a cple of monoliths (again its the whole fluffiness of the uniform legion etc)
With what we know of the new codex this list is severely weekened.

For example 2,200 ish of warriors/liths old dex (ignoring command for simplification) 2 monoliths 100 warriors
Now this dex both are cheaper but both have been nerfed

The same 2 liths and 100 warriors cost aparently around 1600, but:
the warriors are 1 save worse, 1 wbb worse, guns no longer auto wound on 6 no matter toughness
monoliths are easier to destroy, can no longer pull units from cc and no longer give wbb rerolls.

Now I can use the 600 ish points to add a lord and orb to each unit using the royal court, which brings them to about the same cost, but only brings thier wbb back upto the same (and can be removed by losing the lord as well), all the other nerfs are still there, so its a weaker army for the same points, when it was already not overly good before!

3) The models, a cple of them are not bad (with minor conversion work, and i love having plastic immortals, but for the most part dont like them.

4) I like the concept of the ghost ark, but for its cost the effect is bad, since it halves the maximum unit size of also weakened warriors the chance of the squad being around long is reduced, and to make up its points both the squad and the ark need to be around 4-5 turns, otherwise getting more warriors is far superior since it more than makes up for the warriors the ark repairs and makes the squad harder to kill outright. Unless theres a way to take 2 for a unit of 20, this is sadly a bust imo.

5) They should have made flayed ones troops and kept immortals elite - that still leaves a good range elite infantry and adds a good melee troop infantry and since a lot have been wanting flayed as troops would have also sold a lot more models (if they kept the old ones instead of the new hideous ones).

6) Destroyers have been overneferd, they should at least have let us keep the units of 1-5, units of 1-3 are useless.

7) The lychguard are about the same price as the old pariahs and have warscythes, but its lost its ability to ignore invulnerable saves and its built in blaster - if it kept them and just lost the anti psyker powers it would have been a big improvement.

Im not all doom and gloom and theres some good, i like the larger units of wraiths with options, the scarabs sound great, the triach stalker could be good, but for me theres far more bad (oe indifferent) than good, a real dissapointment after so many years.

Im not rage quitting, and will wait and see, but from all we know so far, im a very UNhappy camper

Kevin949 wrote:

yakface wrote:

• Heavy Destroyers are still 36" S9 shots.

I just want to point out that heavy destroyers are 48" in the current edition.

Only if you include their 12" movement. The Heavy Gauss Cannon is 36" S9 Ap2 Heavy1