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The Dwarf Wolf wrote:In the apearance, they are nice...

In the logic, they arent.

Why someone drive the transport vehicle? If they are robots, why someone dont IS the transport vehicle?

Necron warriors driving vehicles? Necron lord sitting in a vehicle? Why in hell it would make that? I could just replace his legs with the said vehicle, it would make more sense (hey even done that in last edition).

Flayed Ones are wrong. Bad done, bad worked, bad bad bad. They look like cyborg kids pretending to be ghouls.

Dont liked. I will not buy.

Well, I don't mind the necrons driving the vehicles, cause I see that kinda stuff all the time in docter who.

I do agree that the flayed ones are complete gak. I mean...pimp walk? Seriously?

Yeah Im probably gona buy necrons again.

Sold my old army a while back because they just got boring to play with, looks like there is definately more variety now, new codex should be interesting.

I dont like the named characters much, the standard Overlord dudes look better.

They couldn't at least go with names that didn't sound faux Egyptian? I mean, at least pretend?

Overall I'm sorta meh and incredulous at a few things still. It's like they cherry picked rules from other army books to give to Necrons. SW Wolf Guard for Necrons. Tau Markerlight for Necrons.

Scarabs reducing armor for the rest of the game? Dumb

The fluff shift also sounds sort of silly to believe. The C'Tan go from "We've ruled everything from behind the scenes since before the rise of Man!" to "Our roombas killed us and at our brains..."

Then again, it is Mat Ward. /potshot

streamdragon wrote:They couldn't at least go with names that didn't sound faux Egyptian? I mean, at least pretend?

Overall I'm sorta meh and incredulous at a few things still. It's like they cherry picked rules from other army books to give to Necrons. SW Wolf Guard for Necrons. Tau Markerlight for Necrons.

Scarabs reducing armor for the rest of the game? Dumb

The fluff shift also sounds sort of silly to believe. The C'Tan go from "We've ruled everything from behind the scenes since before the rise of Man!" to "Our roombas killed us and at our brains..."

Then again, it is Mat Ward. /potshot

How is reducing armor for the rest of the game dumb?
It sounds like what a cron would do.

whigwam wrote:I'm a bit confused why so many are scandalized by similarities between the Necrons and Tomb Kings. Necrons have always had an unambiguously Egyptian style to them. They have always been yet another variation of the all-too-familiar "living dead". Is the objection that they'll be gaining some sentience in this latest iteration? Or the C'Tan role reversal? I only know the basics about Tomb Kings, so I'm having some difficulty understanding the complaint.

For me personally, it's becauseGW have always said that they try and keep the fantasy and 40K universes different to each other, and try to minimise the comparisons between races. I feel ever so slightly (but not too badly) disappointed in the comparisons that I can make. For instance, the SS head comparison that I mentioned in my last post just comes across as product 'recycling' tbh.

Still, ones I'm done with my half finished DE, and just started SM's, I will DEFO be goingwith the crons based on the cool factor of the troop types alone

Hmm, seems Necrons crashed our website too for a moment

Its bookkeeping. "Oh, that rhino is AV 9, but that one was 8" "No, it was the other way around!"

Xeriapt wrote:Yeah Im probably gona buy necrons again.

Sold my old army a while back because they just got boring to play with, looks like there is definately more variety now, new codex should be interesting.

I dont like the named characters much, the standard Overlord dudes look better.

If the codex doesn't wind up being to my taste i have a biggish necron army that will be hitting the swap shop. I'll let you know when i have had a chance to read the dex

greenskin lynn wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:I don't like some of the Necron HQ. Their legs are far too big, shouldn't they be thinner and more skeletal? Also, far far too much gubbinz on them. They are robots fer chrissakes, what's with all the bling?

i actually kind of like the legs are not quite so frail (though its more of a hope the model doesn't snap off at the legs kind of reason)
i agree on the bling, bit to much

The thickness of the legs and all the cloaks beings cast around them does suggest that they are worried about the models being frail.

6 from 6, right?

And it's interesting to hear of these things like Doom Blades and the walker... yet see no models for them. Guess we'll never get those...

And the fluff, just based on what little we've heard, sounds bad. But then again it is being written by Matt Ward, so what the feth was I expecting.

Nice models though (not sold on the transport though).

The apparent removal of "glowing green rods" saddens me :(

The replacements for that part we see on new Immortals and vehicle guns is far inferior :(
I ran through my bitz stash and found 17 free rods. This will have to help me get new Necrons in line with old ones. Seriously, that translucent green plastic was a trademark for Necrons... I can also strip my Monolith's (work in progress) supply of rods - 20 of 'em and just use the new parts there. So I'm thinking - new rod replacements will go to my vehicles, good 'ol translucent green will go to the infantry weapons.

What are your thoughts on this guys?

The cycle is now complete

At least they do have some nice quality in them, do agree though that the plastic rods will be missed

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:
Flayed Ones are wrong. Bad done, bad worked, bad bad bad. They look like cyborg kids pretending to be ghouls.

Not to mention these will probably be in fail cast. Buying 10 metal Flayed Ones before the stock went empty was my best decision in past few months...

Herr Dexter wrote:The apparent removal of "glowing green rods" saddens me :(

The replacements for that part we see on new Immortals and vehicle guns is far inferior :(
I ran through my bitz stash and found 17 free rods. This will have to help me get new Necrons in line with old ones. Seriously, that translucent green plastic was a trademark for Necrons... I can also strip my Monolith's (work in progress) supply of rods - 20 of 'em and just use the new parts there. So I'm thinking - new rod replacements will go to my vehicles, good 'ol translucent green will go to the infantry weapons.

What are your thoughts on this guys?

Sounds good. It also saddens me to see the rods go.
that is what made the Necron models truly distinquishable.
Oh well, at least we get additional units to compensate.
Can't wait to try out the deathmarks.

Both Ark versions look quite horrible, and I don't like the Flayed ones either, but I do very much like all the other new units

But... where are the rumoured new plastic Tomb Spyder kit, the 5 per box Wraiths, and the Necromancer MC ?

Wow, tomb kings in space is an awesome look for the new crons.

Cool, some nice looking Crons. May just have to start this army. Will have to read the dex and see the models first hand before I break it to the other half. Mind you, any failcast will be left where it is.

lost_soul wrote:Im not a fan of the codex but these models look great. I might buy them just to paint.

How about I buy them, you paint them, I keep them?

Herr Dexter wrote:

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:
Flayed Ones are wrong. Bad done, bad worked, bad bad bad. They look like cyborg kids pretending to be ghouls.

Not to mention these will probably be in fail cast. Buying 10 metal Flayed Ones before the stock went empty was my best decision in past few months...

I think the old ones were better, they had little shreds of skin, the current ones have loads, the one in the middle is wearing a whole rug of skin - how big was the person he got it off? CREED!!!

The TK in space theme can always be toned down a bit, I reckon I will end up hacking off a few bits and pieces.

I will miss green plastic rods also lol.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Herr Dexter wrote:

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:
Flayed Ones are wrong. Bad done, bad worked, bad bad bad. They look like cyborg kids pretending to be ghouls.

Not to mention these will probably be in fail cast. Buying 10 metal Flayed Ones before the stock went empty was my best decision in past few months...

I think the old ones were better, they had little shreds of skin, the current ones have loads, the one in the middle is wearing a whole rug of skin - how big was the person he got it off? CREED!!!

Yeah, the old ones had style. They were sinister and they were somewhat subtle. The new ones might as well carry around a huge neon sign that says "HEY WE ARE COVERED IN BLOOD AND SKIN FEAR US PLEASE WE ARE VERY SCARY AND NOT ABSURD LOOKING AT ALL"

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Herr Dexter wrote:

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:
Flayed Ones are wrong. Bad done, bad worked, bad bad bad. They look like cyborg kids pretending to be ghouls.

Not to mention these will probably be in fail cast. Buying 10 metal Flayed Ones before the stock went empty was my best decision in past few months...

I think the old ones were better, they had little shreds of skin, the current ones have loads, the one in the middle is wearing a whole rug of skin - how big was the person he got it off? CREED!!!

Yeah, the old ones had style. They were sinister and they were somewhat subtle. The new ones might as well carry around a huge neon sign that says "HEY WE ARE COVERED IN BLOOD AND SKIN FEAR US PLEASE WE ARE VERY SCARY AND NOT ABSURD LOOKING AT ALL"

Lol, true.

I really don't like the idea of Necrons having transports and storm shields. Makes them too much like everyone else. I would rather they had come up with some unique stuff, like teleporters or shield generators. What's next, close combat tau and marines get a horde option? That said, I actually like the vehicle models. I don't like the pilot's resemblance to the Dark Eldar pilots though.

Hi folks of dakka, long time no hear, just occasionally lurking.
Came out of my cave to say how much I HATE most of the models and the design concept. ARGH!

Command barge: At first I thought these poor Necrons are suppose to pull that damn thing. Concept failed and comical in appearance.

Ghost Barge: The "driver" need a freakin drum. And it should have amphibious special rule because the necrons can paddle with their guns. Doomsday arc is a bit better, but the driver is still stupid looking.

Necron Overlords: too much bling and stupid headgear. Maybe a less paintjob on the halo would do them good. GW has apparently forget what made necrons cool. They were bland but stylish opposed to all the other pimp armies.

Deathmarks: I actually like them.

Lychguard: Tomb Kings... in space!!!

Triarch Praetorians: Would be decent if they gave the shuriken catapult devices back to the wraithlord that they nicked them from.

Immortals: Good, but they are oldschool.

Flayed ones: The metal version is 100x cooler. Why change a running concept? I mean two of them have freaking human skin mantles like it's en vogue or something! EN VOGUE!

Off in the caves, have fun and keep up the good work people!

Greets
Schepp himself

Alrighty, here we go:

Things I liked:
-The vehicles are sufficiently "skiff-like" and aren't flying rhinos (in terms of looks anyway).
-Deathmarks were not too over the top. They still look like Necrons in any case, and the cyclops-look is pretty neat (and different).
-Lords feel unique. I always wanted to see the Necron higher-ups (who were supposed to be more individual) show some uniqueness. They certainly feel like they've been "resurrected" much less than their brethren, and have kept their ancient traditional look as a result.
-Immortals still look reasonably good.

Things I didn't like:
-No green rods. (Potential fix: Most of the guns look like they could still fit the green rods, with a bit of work anyway.)
-Vehicles have drivers (Potential fix: Cut off the driver's legs/chair and make the torso part of the vehicle, like a super-destroyer body.)
-The elites (lychguard, praetorians) seem a bit goofy. (Potential fix: Cut off headdresses/mechano-tabards and don't paint so much gold onto them.)
-Praetorian "backpacks" look really out of place. Not totally unfixable though.
-Wrist-blasters. I really do not like such things on anything but Ad-Mech and Grey Knight forces. (Potential fix: Instead, replace whole arm with cut down Necron Warrior blaster at elbow.)
-Flayed Ones. I can't even propose a fix for these. They just look plain awkward. The old-style flayed ones were much more terrifying and grisly.

I'm not going to comment on rules until I see a leaked 'dex.

/2cents

Kroothawk wrote:
Dual kit that can be build as the Ghost Ark, a troop transporter ...

Robots in a row'boats. Necron-axes as paddles. Lord in back keeping the beat.

"Row row row you boat..."

Wow, an entire line of lackluster models. The direction the Necrons took in this edition is, tragically disappointing.

Also, the necrons freaking love the Ultramarines, as is apperant from there vehicles

This is going to be a very polarising range of models. I mean, personally, I'm fighting the urge to start a Necron army because they're fan fething tastic models, aside from the Flayed Ones. The old models were so dull.

But I can't see people who were fans of the old models being won over by these.

kenshin620 wrote:The cycle is now complete
At least they do have some nice quality in them, do agree though that the plastic rods will be missed

Bah, nobody would be so stupid as to recycle Fantasy miniatures for a SciFi game

The army is once again appealing. I may start small and dig out my old metal necron warriors and experiment with paintwork on them.
Overall Liking a lot of the new models, don't like the rowboat with a passion, hell even flayed ones look better than it...
Has there been 100% confirmation on the kits which are not changing though as the GW sales reply to emails are not exactly trust inspiring .
Oh if only eldar, DA and 6th weren't round the corner .

The biggest part to irk me has not been talk of OTT abilities but the direction the fluff is going. The C'tan got killed? By their slaves... Uh huh...
Here is a better idea Mr. Ward they just decided to lay low, split power off to infuse many minions ranks instead of appearing in one place at a time.
No charge, just give me credit in the codex...