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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 23:17:39
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Alpharius wrote: Tannhauser42 wrote:The price for the Zeus upgrade has been posted in the new calculator ($15 each).
After upping my pledge to include extra Ada models and three Zeus+APCs, my final total is not $1337. Kind of an appropriate number, eh?
I an curious - just exactly what are you getting?!?
(And yes, I am jealous!)
Looks like 4 of everything
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 23:20:53
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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^^ Yeah, sounds about right!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 23:56:38
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Dakka Veteran
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Ada needs a squad!
10 Woman unit... NEW STRETCH GOAL!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 23:59:20
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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 What?! Yes! I will have 20 please!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 00:12:56
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Zeus Strech Goal reached.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 00:17:14
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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Who cares about the Zeus stretch goal? Female stormtroopers!
Another $10k seems a bit too much to ask for in the next few hours though, not saying it isn't doable, I just think all the last minute pledgers should have come forward already, you never know though!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 00:22:28
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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[DCM]
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I'm hoping that squad won't be a KS exclusive then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 00:27:17
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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ironicsilence wrote: Alpharius wrote: Tannhauser42 wrote:The price for the Zeus upgrade has been posted in the new calculator ($15 each).
After upping my pledge to include extra Ada models and three Zeus+APCs, my final total is not $1337. Kind of an appropriate number, eh?
I an curious - just exactly what are you getting?!?
(And yes, I am jealous!)
Looks like 4 of everything
I hate to list it all, since it makes me cringe a bit, but here goes:
6 boxes of stormtroopers
6 boxes of support weapons
4 boxes of command squads
6 boxes of heavy weapons heavy troopers
6 boxes of assault heavy troopers
3 boxes of heavy troopers
12 APCs
3 of the rocket launcher kits
3 of the zeus kits
5 Adas
1 Leviathan Crusader
1 HEL Cannon
1 Nova Cannon
...and a partridge in a pear tree.
And my pledge is now gonna go up just a bit more to get some of those Black Widows.
I look at it this way: I'm getting a full Imperial Guard army, and a full infantry Space Marine army. And a Warhound titan.
How much would GW charge for all of that? Automatically Appended Next Post: Commander Cain wrote:Who cares about the Zeus stretch goal? Female stormtroopers!
Another $10k seems a bit too much to ask for in the next few hours though, not saying it isn't doable, I just think all the last minute pledgers should have come forward already, you never know though!
Yeah, looks like I'll be staying up late tonight to keep an eye on it. I'd love to get at least one squad of the Black Widows, but I'll need to be ready to adjust my pledge if we make that goal or not.
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 00:31:06
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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guess I should have guessed 6 of everything!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 00:31:40
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Weird: A kickstarter update said that it is impossible to adjust the pledge amount after the end of the kickstarter.
1.) Why? This is uncommon.
2.) How am I supposed to deal with a yet unreached stretch goal? If I don't pay before it is available, I don't get it. If I pay and it doesn't get available, I paid for nothing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 00:34:02
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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[DCM]
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That's a lot of stuff, including a lot of APCs!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 00:46:59
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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Kroothawk wrote:Weird: A kickstarter update said that it is impossible to adjust the pledge amount after the end of the kickstarter.
1.) Why? This is uncommon.
2.) How am I supposed to deal with a yet unreached stretch goal? If I don't pay before it is available, I don't get it. If I pay and it doesn't get available, I paid for nothing.
Well I just added $22 in case the female squad came along, I will just get 10 more regular troops if we don't hit it. It does seem a little odd though, every other ks I have done seems to allow increases in pledges after it is over!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 00:51:35
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Kroot- I think he just doesn't want people to count on adding in things after the fact. In the same update he said "After Kickstarter pledge manager? I do not have an answer at this point. As I will not be doing the order fulfillment, I need to be conscious of the mess I create for the WGF crew. We are discussing the possibility and trying to define how it would work and how it would integrate into their software database, but as of now I do not have a yes or no…"
So, if an international backer forgets to add shipping for example, I'm sure they'll have to work that out, but he just doesn't have an answer for it.
Personally, I'm using the online calculator so I've made sure my amount is correct... although I just upped it to include a squad of female tank hunters!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 00:57:24
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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I think a pledge manager will be essential for just such a reason as people forgetting to add shipping. For example, each time I went on the calculator to put my stuff in I would forget to change it to "international", look at the total and be pretty proud with myself for being so good to my wallet, until I realized I forgot the $60 extra shipping costs of course...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:02:29
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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My feeling, though, is that due to logistics he won't have a "pledge manager" like CMON, but will have to work with people 1on1... making it a lot easier if people have their pledges correct when it ends. The other Kickstarter I participated in that was a one-man band had a similar strategy- i.e., fill out what you want in the survey at the end, and pledge adjustment only happens if there was a problem / etc, but it's not an automated system (that takes some programming and the calculator is not of Mark's creation, but a volunteer backer of this Kickstarter).
Come on anti-tank squad  I actually think we will make it, will be a riveting last push!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:04:03
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 290k Female ATs!
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
I don't even KNOW anymore.
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Pledged for a couple extra Adas - even I can afford them at $2.00 a piece
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:11:26
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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Well I am going to watch the latest Doctor Who episode, have an early night and then see where we landed in the morning! Come on folks, we can do this!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:14:25
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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I'd like to have had a tiny bit more info on the female troopers. Plastic? Metal? Resin? Single-cast or multipart? I also have Kroot's dilemma.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:18:52
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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I'll post a question about that in the comments, but I'm sure they are going to be multi-part plastic, like every other kit other than the 2 kickstarter exclusive freebie models (shadokesh and Ada). Automatically Appended Next Post: Looks like he already answered it in the updates tab (from someone else asking):
Mark on Kickstarter wrote:Multipart like the ST but I need to tweak all the proportions, slightly shorter and smaller, larger hips, thinner shoulders and arms, etc. No helmeted heads, although your ST helmeted heads will fit.
ST = stormtroopers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:25:36
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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Dakka Veteran
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RiTides wrote:I'll post a question about that in the comments, but I'm sure they are going to be multi-part plastic, like every other kit other than the 2 kickstarter exclusive freebie models (shadokesh and Ada).
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Looks like he already answered it in the updates tab (from someone else asking):
Mark on Kickstarter wrote:Multipart like the ST but I need to tweak all the proportions, slightly shorter and smaller, larger hips, thinner shoulders and arms, etc. No helmeted heads, although your ST helmeted heads will fit.
ST = stormtroopers
Yep multi-part plastic  just like the ST
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:29:50
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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5 hours to go, about 10k needed, correct me if I'm wrong but havent we already gotten higher then the kick tracker suggested?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:32:03
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Holy crap, plastic sisters! I'd heartily suggest a separate accessory sprue but those could be huge for you Mark if the head are done well.
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They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:40:34
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Thanks for the info. I'll keep an eye on it over the next few hours and see if we're likely to make it before adding the cash.
I'd add it now, but if we don't make it, I'd want to turn it into a weapon arm, but then if that happened, I'd want to add another $25 to make it 4/3.
Oh, the pain of it all!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:41:25
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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looks like from the comments Mark's next KS will be for the game and the Shadokesh
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:44:00
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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[DCM]
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Yeah, kicktraq has trouble keeping up with the final pushes, they're crazy! The projection tab is broken  as the max is 4k below where we are now, but the trend is pointing at 196K. But given the spike we just hit with this anouncement that is constantly revising upwards, too. It's going to be hard to go to bed and not watch this end!
Hulk- Agreed, I wonder if when they release he might be able to simply tweak the normal trooper accessory sprue to have female heads on it, soas not to have to do a major re-work. I am going to have tons of bits leftover from my normal troopers to convert the tank hunters with, though, since I pledged for some extra accessory sprues to get more unhelmeted heads.
ironic- I know, and that comment made me up my pledge for 4 of the Kickstarter exclusive shadokesh models... since they're November deliveries and I would feel bad missing them if the Shadokesh look awesome later!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Like I said, constantly revising upwards- now trending toward about $197K  and rising.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 01:58:24
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Mark replied to a comment I made on the kickstarter that may be of interest to some:
"I wonder if the Black Widows can be modeled to wield rifles instead of the AT guns? I would be in for a bunch more of them if that was possible."
ABSOLUTELYLY! I will make sure they can
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 02:38:37
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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8.5k and >4 hours to go. Don't think we're going to make the last one. Rats!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 03:21:07
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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Dankhold Troggoth
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You mean 6.5K now  . I think we will! I made one final up to my pledge... and I think he's going to give us that goal even if we fall just a hair short, anyway.
Will be looking forward to seeing what it reads when I wake up!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 03:27:34
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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~$5400 to go with just over three hours. I'll stay up for it (it'll end 1:45AM my time). I might cave in and pledge for more than just the one box of Black Widows I'm already in for. The fact that Mark said they can carry the rifles is a big selling point for me.
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/16 03:38:42
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch - 200K Female ATs!
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Yeah, I signed up for 3! How could I not know all this time how much I needed some counts-as sisters allies
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