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While Mindworm doesn't have their own artists, as said in the interview, they do their production in house. There will be differences (as noted, Mindworm does spincast resin... GW produces mostly plastics) but I don't think the time scale is too far off.
A 'Eavy Metal painter revealed on his twitter that he has to paint up models over a year ahead of time for product photos and the such. Big production houses like GW do have a lot of resources to throw at a project that is a priority, but they also have a lot of timing issues as well. Tooling at this scale is going to be different than what a few guys can do in a shop after hours (by the way... your work sounds awesome!)

The bigger problem for GW is production scheduling. Giving something a short notice production slot means that something else is going to be going out of stock for a significant period. They have a relatively small number of windows in a given year where their production isn't being dictated by replenishment.

Yeah, I'm almost certain the reason why it's a 2 year cycle is more to do with scheduling and the fact it's better to invest less men hours per week across more projects than it is to invest a lot of man hours per week in less projects. Also there's not a lot of point rushing projects because typically hobbyists are just as likely to buy a product if you release it in 12 months as if you release it in 2 months.

I'm sure a huge amount of time gets spent on revisions in all stages of the process, because, well, that's how most companies I've encountered work Pleb #1 works for a month on a project, boss sees it and asks for revisions, pleb #1 works for another 2 weeks, boss #1 sees it and asks for revision, rinse and repeat a half dozen time before project gets moved in to the next stage which is the speciality of pleb #2, pleb #2 works for a week and then goes back to pleb #1 because something wasn't done right, after that's fixed pleb #2 shows it to boss #2 and it gets asked for revisions..... etc etc until the product finally gets out the door.

When stuff needs to get out the door quickly you get boss #1 and boss #2 in a room with pleb #1 and pleb #2 then pleb #1 and pleb #2 work together and maybe get pleb #3 involved to do some of the more menial tasks to keep things moving and pleb #4 who is more of an expert to reduce the number of revisions and the bosses check in more regularly to make sure things are on track, so you end up investing more man hours in to the project but it takes less days to get stuff out.

But if GW through some crystal ball discovered that could make $50M releasing product XXXX, but that profit would evaporate if they waited... then I'm almost certain they could put a kit in to production in a matter of months from concept to sprues in production.

Morg’s back!


One of Blood Bowl‘s most notorious and famous players returns today as Morg ‘N’ Thorg comes out of retirement to the cheers and roars of bloodthirsty Blood Bowl fans everywhere.



This bruiser of a player is feared and respected by anyone who knows anything about the glorious game of Blood Bowl. He’s been known to play for a huge range of teams throughout his career (apart from the Undead – he’s not a big fan of those guys).

Jim and Bob, our local Blood Bowl experts had this to say on Morg’s triumphant return:


“It’s great to see the 2nd best Ogre player of all time return to the field.” – Bob

“What’ wrong with the Undead? I find many of them quite agreeable, actually.” – Jim

So… there you go guys.

You can add this Star Player to your team now.





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Really liking this one, that shoulder plate and spiked gauntlet is a nostalgic touch, like the very first BB ogre.

I don't like the skull belly plate, but otherwise looks okay.....maybe it's the paint job that's not blowing me away.

WOW, OH WOW! I really like that!

Hideous. So is the Orc.

How do we go from the new plastics and Zug to these?

The Orc at least maintains some of the look of the newer style, but it still looks really dated.

MNT just looks old and kinda bad. I look at things like the new Ogryn from 40k and can't help but feel like this sculpt is about 10 years old and only got put into production because BB came back.

This kit comes in 30 components

30 components? For a model the size of an Ogre? Wow, seriously?

I don't know, this one looks weird. He holds the ball in a strange way.

I think he would be better on a 40 mm base. More stability.

the ball is weird, its like its glued to his finger tips...

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
the ball is weird, its like its glued to his finger tips...

The ball is smarter than most blood bowl players. That is why it knows there's no purpose in trying to get away from Morg N Thorg

Yikes. What a mess.
Was hoping to have something to order along with Zug but it looks like I'll have to wait a while longer.

Oh, we moved the thread again, and then completely changed the title. Have the moderators been replaced by Fox executives?

I actually bought Zug because I had hopes for that the coming miniatures would look just as good, but these latest releases are not keeping the same standard. It's really a shame. :/ Mighty Zug was such a success, for me.

30 peices for one model?

Sounds like a relaxing break from building Malifaux models.

 AduroT wrote:
Oh, we moved the thread again, and then completely changed the title. Have the moderators been replaced by Fox executives?

Yeah the thread fell of my radar due to the move and removing "blood bowl" from the title.

I don't mind Morg 'N 'Thorg other than the ball looking like it's falling out of his hand and the excessively large spikey shoulder pad.

Like some other dynamic posed BB models, he looks better when viewed in a 360.

I like him Less of a copy-paste from the existing ogre model range and more of a unique individual

I'm stuck on a monthly 20+£ subscription from Forge World now it seems.

Strange to see the focus on ball carrying for the new star players. It is very nice to see they add it as an option along with an empty hand also. Which can give some much needed open-hands or hands-on-ball parts for conversion projects.

Well, Morgn'n'Thorg would actually be an ok ball carrier with both medium speed and agility.

But Zug?!? You would never want Mighty Zug to try get hold of the ball with both Dwarf speed and agility.

Thankfully i never get to spend that much TV on a star player.
I think he looks terrible, and a 30 piece kit ??
I would not have the time to build it if i did like it !

I have to say I do not think FW actually want to have anything to do with BB. If you check the close ups of the unpainted Morg on the FW site they never even bothered to clean it up. The face has Flash the ball has mould lines it is just sloppy.

Also a friend bought Zug at the open day and there was damage to it, he still has not had a replacement so chased it up only for FW to tell him that it is a GW model and they don't deal with the returns.

SeanDrake wrote:
I have to say I do not think FW actually want to have anything to do with BB. If you check the close ups of the unpainted Morg on the FW site they never even bothered to clean it up. The face has Flash the ball has mould lines it is just sloppy.

Also a friend bought Zug at the open day and there was damage to it, he still has not had a replacement so chased it up only for FW to tell him that it is a GW model and they don't deal with the returns.

I went into WW last week and the FW Bloodbowl stuff, the two refs, Zug and Varag, were nowhere to be found in the FW store, I asked the chap on the FW counter about them and he said he had no idea where they were.
Eventually I found them lurking on a shelf on the other side of the place at the back of the GW section.

Might be reading too much into it, but it seemed strange.

Jeez that sculpt looks like something straight out of the 90's... expect much better than that from forgeworld.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
Hideous. So is the Orc.

MNT just looks old and kinda bad. I look at things like the new Ogryn from 40k and can't help but feel like this sculpt is about 10 years old and only got put into production because BB came back.

I just can't agree with you there. I really like this ogre, he's got some great hark-backs to old school incorporated into the design and the face has real character, real 'life' to it. I cannot get how you like the new ogryns better, I greatly disliked them, most especially the oddly smooth CAD effect faces.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
Hideous. So is the Orc.

MNT just looks old and kinda bad. I look at things like the new Ogryn from 40k and can't help but feel like this sculpt is about 10 years old and only got put into production because BB came back.

I just can't agree with you there. I really like this ogre, he's got some great hark-backs to old school incorporated into the design and the face has real character, real 'life' to it. I cannot get how you like the new ogryns better, I greatly disliked them, most especially the oddly smooth CAD effect faces.

The Ogryn look anatomically viable vs something you know was hand sculpted 10 years ago. Morg just looks dated and while I love throwbacks, this was a big swing and a miss. Just look at the new Slambo for an example of doing throwbacks right. The Ogryn absolutely look better, imo. Curious to see GW's Ogre player that I heard was coming out, because this one is a pass.

There a probably better photos of it now, but that's the first one I found in this thread

Morg looks like either he or the sculptor had a stroke.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
There a probably better photos of it now, but that's the first one I found in this thread

So much better than Morg. By MILES! Now that I will be buying for sure. That is the modern design direction from BB I am about. Can't wait for that dude to release.

According to reports starting to hit FB, the plastic Ogre will hit retail March 4th (on that date the human team will also be available as a separate box).

BigDaddio wrote:
According to reports starting to hit FB, the plastic Ogre will hit retail March 4th (on that date the human team will also be available as a separate box).

Perfect! I haven't gone too far into painting yet, so I can get him up to speed before I hit decal phase! Thanks for the info!

You may be able to build an ogre team with enough of those Ogre boxes. It'll depend on how many options we have on the sprue... can you make six that are different enough.
Then, you'll need to find some weedly thing for the runts.