Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum

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**Solace**

Sorry about that tom wasn't towards you. also about the whole 40k community.

Alfndrate you are right about my retaliation i honestly don't like being compared to someone else.

I asked my cousin about this Tax ID and address being showed to customer's just to confirm this. Told me its not a good idea to publicly post such information which could be used for Identity theft. A business also has the right to deny a customers request for such information also law's over sea's are completely different about such information.

Not sure but think their was a post made about it by someone name protoclone.

Sorry for the slow reply browsing dakka site.

**Cyporiean**

In Florida, it's law to have the Tax ID/License on display in the open. You'll generally see it in a photo frame near the counter.

**Rorschach9**

Solace wrote:
Sorry about that tom wasn't towards you. also about the whole 40k community.

Alfndrate you are right about my retaliation i honestly don't like being compared to someone else.

I asked my cousin about this Tax ID and address being showed to customer's just to confirm this. Told me its not a good idea to publicly post such information which could be used for Identity theft. A business also has the right to deny a customers request for such information also law's over sea's are completely different about such information.

Not sure but think their was a post made about it by someone name protoclone.

Sorry for the slow reply browsing dakka site.

Rorschach9 wrote:
No need to give anyone a number. Just the legal entities name to be entered into the state of Texas' Taxable Entity Search to verify that it is a legal/registered business entity would suffice for many (fyi : Resin Forge, Resin Forge Store, Resinforge and Resinforge Store do not appear in the search).

This removes the "Haha, our Tax ID number will not be given out because you could use it to steal our business identity" (which was a reason parroted after being written by a user here on Dakka). It's also something that could have been done right from the very beginning to avoid so much drama. Or, you know .. answering simple questions instead of dancing around and making excuses (and verifiable false statements).

*Edit : Of course, at this point it's all academic. Dakka/Lex have "won" and RF is crying the poor victim because of the actions of an incredibly small portion of the community (and an even smaller portion of that small community that sees these messages)! Impressive that such a small group can somehow cause "thousands" of customers to disappear (even though most of them are still saying "wait, what's going on?")

As I stated here .. no need for a tax ID or business registration number. A legal business name search in the state of texas (where RF is located) comes up empty.

**kronk**

Welcome to the forums, Solace! Post a bunch. Don't suck!

Make a thread and introduce yourself here!

**whitedragon**

Alfndrate wrote:
whitedragon wrote:
Solace wrote:

This really makes me think low of 40k community.

thank you tom.

Alf, this is the part that is confusing MajorTom

I know, that's why I mentioned that Tom's post was near the Inquisitor S post which was the ONLY post near Tom's that mention spelling. It's totally up to Solace to answer lol we're left in the dark.

I'm quoting you because I disagree that we are saying the same thing even though we are. ;-)

**Alfndrate**

It should be noted that any person that has a business in Texas not only must have permit and must display it at their place of business. If Resin Forge were a valid business, they would have this permit on display at their home (since they don't have a store front), and a simple picture of that would suffice. Hell I would even block out any tax information that could potentially be used to steal their identity.

**Kroothawk**

Inquisitor S. wrote:

He means apart from the big featurette uncovering with his paypal messages that he faked one of the paypal messages he sent around as "proof"? Yes, Daniel, exchanging one name for another is called faking Gotta find something better than that, Daniel

Well, Daniel looked for a lawyer to represent him in USA, so he googled German mercenary and found one. That mercenary worked for a company called BritCon. Everything with Con in its name sounds like a decent business. Only later did he find out that the German mercenary is not a US lawyer, so he got seriously scammed. Did I get all the details?

BTW we should inform the German photographer whose identity was used, that Resin Forge is accusing him of fraud.

**Kanluwen**

What lawyer is going to take payment via PayPal?

**Aerethan**

There was no fraud on the part of BritCon as RF insists. They were paid to issue a C&D, and they did. THEN they pulled a Mandelbondsley and closed up shop before questions got too far in to finding out much about them.

If anything, that points at Daniel as being the one who defrauded Resin Forge as it is the same hit and run tactics hes known to use.

**Lint**

I'm confused as to how RF was scammed. Did the C&D not accomplish its purpose? From what I recall the offending thread was in fact removed.

**doc1234**

Kanluwen wrote:
What lawyer is going to take payment via PayPal?

What mercenary-lawyer sets up an elaborate website to scam one person out of $103 (or 77.55 euros seeing as they were German), sending a C&D email (what they were payed for, so not really a scam) and then vanishing into the aether.

**kronk**

$103 won't even buy you a wraithknight.

It will get you a Fulgrim, though.

**Aerethan**

doc1234 wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
What lawyer is going to take payment via PayPal?

What mercenary-lawyer sets up an elaborate website to scam one person out of $103 (or 77.55 euros seeing as they were German), sending a C&D email (what they were payed for, so not really a scam) and then vanishing into the aether.

A German Mercenary-lawyer, that's who. As we all know, Merc-Lawyers are in it for the small bucks.

Side note, how much does it cost in the US to have an actual attorney write and send a C&D?

**doc1234**

Aerethan wrote:
doc1234 wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
What lawyer is going to take payment via PayPal?

What mercenary-lawyer sets up an elaborate website to scam one person out of $103 (or 77.55 euros seeing as they were German), sending a C&D email (what they were payed for, so not really a scam) and then vanishing into the aether.

A German Mercenary-lawyer, that's who. As we all know, Merc-Lawyers are in it for the small bucks.

Side note, how much does it cost in the US to have an actual attorney write and send a C&D?

Could be why DM seems to be out for Germans, maybe he's convinced himself all Germans are lawyers?

And as far as i know being none US he could have sent one himself for free.

**Savagecoyote**

Er i just spotted this gem in the middle of the pile of we're the victim posts (i have removed the posters name ) since sending a C&D to Dakka started the latest rounds of Where's Danial (it's like Where's Wally but not so hard ) have we gone full circle ? Should we be getting ready for German Ninja Mercenary Lawyers 2 ?

Hi. I've never been fortunate enough to be a customer, but love your customs. As for this douche bag who keeps posting about you, sue. Seriously. Put it to rest. You're adding more to the community than they do. I've been gaming and painting since 1981 and those kind of trolls have no place. You have my support. Good luck, and take this person to task. If Dakka got a Cease and Desist letter from a lawyer, they'd shut him up. Just do it. We'll stand by you. Their claims seem without basis, so eviscerate them.
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**Alfndrate**

I'd point that little interesting point out to them, but RF has me blocked from their page.

**Inquisitor S.**

Could be why DM seems to be out for Germans, maybe he's convinced himself all Germans are lawyers?

You mean he is secretly convinced that Dakka is just a front for German Nazi-Lexicanum in the conspiracy to ruin Texan-Jewish small businesses and because of that only German lawyer-mercenaries were an option? That is quite clever actually.

Hi. I've never been fortunate enough to be a customer, but love your customs. As for this douche bag who keeps posting about you, sue. Seriously. Put it to rest. You're adding more to the community than they do. I've been gaming and painting since 1981 and those kind of trolls have no place. You have my support. Good luck, and take this person to task. If Dakka got a Cease and Desist letter from a lawyer, they'd shut him up. Just do it. We'll stand by you. Their claims seem without basis, so eviscerate them.

What is so interesting about that? Apart from threatening bodily violence and therefore being "liable"?
And how comes that almost all of RF's staunch defenders seem to have no clue what words they are using or what they are supposed to say? One could almost think that people are paid to write posts

But at least it's nice that in all that mess somebody loves customs, they don't get much love nowadays...

**SickSix**

So looks like RF are putting themselves out of business. Mission accomplished for someone.

**Inquisitor S.**

So looks like RF are putting themselves out of business. Mission accomplished for someone.

For who? Forgeworld? The Evil Alliance of Anti-Texan Bitz-resellers?

**Aerethan**

Inquisitor S. wrote:
So looks like RF are putting themselves out of business. Mission accomplished for someone.

For who? Forgeworld? The Evil Alliance of Anti-Texan Bitz-resellers?

Dammit Lex, now our secret is out. The EAATBS will not go quietly!!!

The mission here was accomplished the moment that Yakface posted the C&D. Everything after that has been RF digging it's own grave by not shutting up.

**SickSix**

Inquisitor S. wrote:
So looks like RF are putting themselves out of business. Mission accomplished for someone.

For who? Forgeworld? The Evil Alliance of Anti-Texan Bitz-resellers?

Actually I was thinking that DB is probably totally fine with this as he will just start up again as someone else, again.

**MajorTom11**

He will. Then we will do all this over again. Unless he figures out that there are better ways to spend his time that going through this once or twice a year. Get a job at Walmart or something dude. Leave the bits and conversion business to those who can be trusted.

**Inquisitor S.**

Actually I was thinking that DB is probably totally fine with this as he will just start up again as someone else, again.

It was his, and only his decision in the first place. His existing customers didn't care anyway. If your business plan relies on continuous expansion, well...

**LadyCassandra**

The weirdest part about this whole thing is that ResinForge responded to this thread on their facebook, but their followers, the majority of them, have no idea what they're responding to. It's like watching someone arguing with someone else on the phone or - more worryingly - thin air. Reading their page without any context is really confusing.

At least in the current one they put up a screenshot. A screenshot somewhat out of context, but a screenshot nonetheless.

**Kilkrazy**

Solace wrote:
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I asked my cousin about this Tax ID and address being showed to customer's just to confirm this. Told me its not a good idea to publicly post such information which could be used for Identity theft. A business also has the right to deny a customers request for such information also law's over sea's are completely different about such information.

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I am not asking for tax ID. I am asking for their business registration number, which in Texas it is a legal requirement for them to have.

**dreamakuma**

He's back to all out professional victimhood on facebook now.

**MajorTom11**

Poor thing. Such a shame when innocent people are victimized by nasty internets. Good thing in this case he is merely reaping the lush rewards of years of aliases, lies, taking money without giving anything in return and generally being a loon.

Sorry Danny pretending your record isn't there and crying about it isn't going to change anything. We've got your number.

**d-usa**

For not being Daniel they sure are complaining alot about how mean people are to Daniel.

Of course no explanation why they can't use their fancy image editing technology they use for screen caps and post Weekender pictures without faces.

And no explanation why they provided the same Paypal dispute with two different names.

Just Daniel being Daniel, but it seems like people are getting pretty wise to how crazy he is.

**Aerethan**

The explanation for the 2 names on paypal screenshots is simple: they were trying to hide Kim's real name, which is Stephanie Hernandez, who we had already tied to Daniel with rather sufficient evidence, which Daniel then screwed himself on by showing an actual screenshot instead of an edited forward email.

When he forwarded the paypal info, he changed the name to Kim. Then a few days later he messaged screenshots of it instead, and he wasn't smart enough to edit the web source to change the name(which in Paypal is harder than it looks it would seem).

EDIT: Turns out it isn't as difficult to edit Paypals source info as it first seems, just not a one click copy and paste.

Moderator edit: I understand the point you're trying to make with the pic you posted, but please refrain from posting Photoshopped images that will likely confuse people who don't read your post carefully enough.

**AduroT**

Aerethan wrote:
The explanation for the 2 names on paypal screenshots is simple: they were trying to hide Kim's real name, which is Stephanie Hernandez, who we had already tied to Daniel with rather sufficient evidence, which Daniel then screwed himself on by showing an actual screenshot instead of an edited forward email.

When he forwarded the paypal info, he changed the name to Kim. Then a few days later he messaged screenshots of it instead, and he wasn't smart enough to edit the web source to change the name(which in Paypal is harder than it looks it would seem).

EDIT: Turns out it isn't as difficult to edit Paypals source info as it first seems, just not a one click copy and paste.

Moderator edit: I understand the point you're trying to make with the pic you posted, but please refrain from posting Photoshopped images that will likely confuse people who don't read your post carefully enough.

They didn't post screen shots of the PayPal with Stephanie's name on it, they forwarded the emails to me, and I screen shoted them off my phone to give to Lex per their request that I share them with him and Dakka. Never saw the ones with Kim's name on them personally, though I did see Lex's screen shots of that one.