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Quite a lot of the people I used to play didn´t get the point that mattboy is making. Every time I said at my store that I could buy GW minis and even paints but there was no way I was buying hobby supplies that I could get at the hardware store for a % of the price they kept staring at me like if they were waiting for the warp to open a shallow me. (and I´m talking about an independent store not a GW)

Anyway my 2$ or € or whatever, if you like the board go for it and enjoy it when I beat my wife into allowing me a gaming board I´ll probably do it myself as I find it more enjoyable and cheaper than buying this one, if it were painted I would consider it but unfinished it´s way too overpriced. Unless as some people pointed you don´t have an iota of spare hobby time.

M.

If you make a board out of common household DIY supplies like plywood, chipboard, plaster and so on, it can be painted using the same techniques you would use for any normal decorating -- rollers, brushes and emulsion.

The main difference is you don't have to be careful to get a nice smooth finish, so the cheaper and nastier supplies you buy the better it works!

A plaster table would be extremelly heavy, but you cant beat the cool textures.

BTW why are people priming with GW sprays? its just a waste of money.

I knew I'd open up a can of worms asking for that link, though that was the point. $40 for that? Again, whoever paid for that thank you for helping fund our next batch of plastic models. I'll be at home depot, picking up a gallon of brown paint, a cheap-ass large brush, a large thing of white glue and a spray can of lighter brown paint. A quick stop at the beach to pick up some sand and one more stop at the model railroad store (or general hobbyshop) to get some woodland scenics flock/static grass/whatever you wanna call it.

1 Gallon of paint, color to taste, $8
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100166737&N=10000003+90048+527893

1 Can of spray paint, link given for example, $4
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100257837&N=10000003+90048+500225

Foam Brush, link shows 1 inch, I've seen them at 4 inch, so lets say $2
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100115974&N=10000003+90048

Or get a nicer 2-3 inch for about $4
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100534826&N=10000003+90048+501792

225 ml (vs 118 from GW) of white glue (aka PVA glue). Anything left over can be used for basing your models. $2
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100545002

Static Grass, comes in a large variety of colors and in a HUGE container, so you'll have plenty left over to do your models with as well. $11
http://www.woodlandscenics.com/items.cfm/StaticGrassFlock

Sand, it's FREE. Don't live by a beach? Contact a local supplier, they'll give you a small bucketful for free. Check craigslist, people are giving away dirt/sand all the time. Hell, contact me. pay for shipping, I'll send you some. It'll be $4.00

So, using the nicer brush, I'm at $29. I'll have material left over for use on other hobby related items which saves me even more $$ over the time it takes to use it all up. Or I can split the cost with a friend that also picked up a table, making it $14.50.

We covered this. We know we can get it cheaper elsewhere (and I do!), but I know a lot of people who like the convenience of buying all of their hobby supplies (minis, paint, terrain, etc) at their local GW retailer.

Hell, why do you think GW sells tape measures, PVA and superglue?

Ozymandias, King of Kings

It's the convenience of not having to buy most of that stuff, actually.

The scenery painting kit is all about convenience...

by the time you've drive to all those places and picked up all those things- i'd have got home and have my board done with the 1 set

and yes- it does only take one set- with plenty of paint, glue and grass left (we finished ours- and have started rebasing a staff army to match the colours- since its pretty )

Bignutter wrote:The scenery painting kit is all about convenience...

by the time you've drive to all those places and picked up all those things- i'd have got home and have my board done with the 1 set

and yes- it does only take one set- with plenty of paint, glue and grass left (we finished ours- and have started rebasing a staff army to match the colours- since its pretty )

Unless you are lucky like me and drive by 2 hardware stores, a Hobbytown USA, and 2 art supply stores on you 20 min drive to work!

Also lack of Car makes a difference.

Other than Bobs, down the road from work, I can't get to my hardware stores.

NAVARRO wrote:A plaster table would be extremelly heavy, but you cant beat the cool textures.

BTW why are people priming with GW sprays? its just a waste of money.

I wouldn't make a whole table out of plaster, I would just use it for texturing areas.

Got mine today. Painting it tomorrow.

It's pretty heavy duty. I don't think it's going to take any damage from the abuse of packing it up and tossing in your car. The clips were easy to use and hold the table together. (I'll be taping a heavy ziplock bag to the underside of one of the hill pieces, so that I always have a spot to put the clips when I pack the table up.)

The small details will look good once they are picked out. Makes for a very nice gaming table. Whether it's worth the price is up to each person and there needs. The less you need a storable, packable table, the less you're going to be inclined to buy this. For the person that wants something they can toss in a closet, it's worth the price.
(Still hard for me to judge, I'll be the first to admit, since mine is coming at a significant discount, as a store sample. ) Quality of the product is excellant. Price vs. that Quality is up to the buyer.

Even at $290 I find myself tempted. I travel to people's houses quite a bit and it would be nice to have one box of scenery and one table that I can throw in my truck and bring over.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

NAVARRO wrote:BTW why are people priming with GW sprays? its just a waste of money.

Because I don't spend money on anything GW related. I spend store credit.

Bignutter wrote:The scenery painting kit is all about convenience...

by the time you've drive to all those places and picked up all those things- i'd have got home and have my board done with the 1 set

and yes- it does only take one set- with plenty of paint, glue and grass left (we finished ours- and have started rebasing a staff army to match the colours- since its pretty )

I know the small bottle of paint that comes with the scenery painting pack is Tausept Ochre, but the big bottle of brown, what color is it exactly? Khemri Brown, Calthan Brown, something else entirely? I ask because I have some trees and hills coming in and I plan on getting this set to do the table with so that everything matches, scenery bases ect.

I'd imagine you'd have enough paint leftover to do the trees and that.

Also, I suspect the paint is Scorched Brown. Nice dark base to work up from.

Kilkrazy wrote:

NAVARRO wrote:A plaster table would be extremelly heavy, but you cant beat the cool textures.

BTW why are people priming with GW sprays? its just a waste of money.

I wouldn't make a whole table out of plaster, I would just use it for texturing areas.

You know, with a tiny bit of planning you could get a really professional look on a modular home made table. I'm working more and more with plaster these days and I could imagine something really outstanding with this material.

I got to see and touch the thing yesterday. It was actually very cool. It's big, sturdy, all that stuff. A lot of detail too, little skulls stuck in cracks in the ground, etc. I think it would look better just painted, save the flock for your bases. The sack that it comes with is really big and shouldn't have a problem holding everything safely.

IMO, on my kind of budget, it would be worth it if it was still $175, $200 is ok but pushing it, $300 is no way.

mikhaila wrote:Got mine today. Painting it tomorrow.

It's pretty heavy duty. I don't think it's going to take any damage from the abuse of packing it up and tossing in your car. The clips were easy to use and hold the table together. (I'll be taping a heavy ziplock bag to the underside of one of the hill pieces, so that I always have a spot to put the clips when I pack the table up.)

The small details will look good once they are picked out. Makes for a very nice gaming table. Whether it's worth the price is up to each person and there needs. The less you need a storable, packable table, the less you're going to be inclined to buy this. For the person that wants something they can toss in a closet, it's worth the price.
(Still hard for me to judge, I'll be the first to admit, since mine is coming at a significant discount, as a store sample. ) Quality of the product is excellant. Price vs. that Quality is up to the buyer.

You got yours already??? Pics please.

300 for a table seems pretty insane. Not sure what in it is supposed to even cost half that really, for that amounth of cash you can make 3 really nice tables if you are abit handy. Cant understand how pepole really can pay this.. Except for rich people who doesnt care about money at least.

Or those without the requisite skills to make one from scratch, or whose storage options are limited to a Hut in the Garden, since the plastic won't warp out of shape like a wooden board.

And hey, no one is forcing anyone to buy it. If you can build one cheaper, go for it. Not as if you are now limited to playing on said board, is it?

Tought it was the price that was beeing discussed. The cost for making the table is really nothing compared to what they want for it. If it had been more reasonable they would have had more buyers. I would have gotten it for about 150, maybe 200, so would alot of other people I have been talking too but this is just to much.

Again, I would ask how you are so intimate as to the production costs? Or are you just speculating?

Sorry, didnt see that question in your last post. But I and most other people who usually build and buys terrain stuff to make boards(and other pices) knows rough sums for making stuff. I have no exact caulqulations ofcourse since im not working specifically on this project, but I know it cant run away that far from what others do. (Its actually probably alot less with their suppliers and acessability to premade terrain).

Why the agressive tone?

We may have a crossed wire here...

The bit I was responding to was 'The cost for making the table is really nothing compared to what they want for it'

I initially read that as stating GW are making a killing in profit on the board. But now I read it again, you may be referring to the cost of making a similar board DIY. If so, please accept my apologies.

This discussion is now starting to go in circles, so I'm going to lock the thread.

If people would like to discuss ideas for decorating the GW boards or for making your own, there is a lot of support for painting and building stuff in the Modelling Forum.