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Oh I was meaning like the pics of the old Graf Zeppelin or the old Hindenburg zeppelins

cool! It'll be great I'm sure of it - might take a while but its comming together like something which will be great

thanks a lot, i hope i can do some stuff for the airship...
weekends are always a bit more family related...^^

cheers, vik

Hbms hms as hmbc jvc tlc jls m&s s&m lol they all sound good!
have a nice weekend mate , were off to see the new harry potter! with family. Not a fan though!

read all book but still i´m no fan...also i think radcliff should have been replaced by the second fim...

vik


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so well the potter guy aside, i had to go a step back...
the wooden floar is now all gone. i had a moment of reviewing the model and saw that the idea with the floar done out of chopsticks is crap. so ichoose to tear the bits apart. fear not, the model is being built nonetheless. i now will go for a steely look. i stil want to stick to the yesterday mentioned look, but instead of wood i now will go into a steely look. so i will build steel plates of various sizes to built the floar out of it by cardboard.should go faster and more exact. i want to add rivets to the foar but how do i do thatwithout getting the surface to uneven? it is mainly look si i thought maybe if i use my holepuncher then i might simply punch holes in the plates and let tehm rest inside. thios will add a ring and a rivet in the plates and you have the look without to much fuss...how does that sound? if its not understandable then i will show tomorrow how i do it by pics.

the bending of wood through water usage is still under way but i may be not going that way for doing the railings...

cheers, vik

Ah, so more armored look then, cool. If you had some plastic tubing, that would be easy to make look like steel railings and struts.

Popsicle sticks can be obtained in mass at kids craft area's in place's like wall mart. I know your in Germany so you wont have that, but do you have big general stores with pretty much everything? Just head there, go to the craft section and check it out. I have about 100 sitting in a tub downstairs from when we were young..

at aqua:

well i now a place like your micheals probably but its a bit far off... so sadly for this i will stick to cardboard. i also thought about cutting boards out of cardboard but that will take ages...

at shaso:

i´ve got a bit of tubings but how do i make it that the bended part of the shpis tail fits to the tubing or the other way round?
for now i´ve got some old camping mattress made out of foam. tjis i will ose to create the railings. i think it is wide enough to make it in one go with only one seam...

thanks for your advices mates, vik

Ah, boiled water again will soften the plastic tubing to make it flexible so that is a good Back up plan.

ok i will try the boiling tomorrow...seems i have to doo it as i am well trhough with the floar done out of cardboard...so i will do the railings faser than i thought i would...

as for "what i did today..." yesterday i told you i´ve ripped the wooden chpostickfloar apart. today i used cardboard in varius sizes to make a patchwork steeled floar. also i tried myself out with some riveting bizzar. i used an old holepuchset tongs and puched them with a hammer directly into the cardboard to only leave some inprint of rivets in the material...
thus making it look detailed but not ruining the flat surface...
hope it is recognizable...
also i had a rather lucky incident in the local mal... i optained two similar high boxes for presents to built the bridge out of them...they will be made to look like built out of curogated metal. i achieved this by using closingbelts (?) from plastic bags we use to keep the bread fresh when the kids go to school...they come various lenghts and in enormous amounts^^ so when still left stuck together they look even unpainted like the real thing...also i plan on optaining sealing rings, the kind you use for plumpings and so on...
thay will act as bubble windows/bullseyes from ships for windows...do you think thats a good idea? or should i do rectangular ones?

also i´m high in shaping up some scratch building ideas to model a steamengine/ heater/bioler thing...any one has some good ideas how i should do some interface devices in that scale? is there a tut on something out there?

well i think that summs it up for now, hope to provoke some reactions out of you fellas now^^...

here are the pics to go with the words...:

floaring...



riveting...




curougated bridge...



cheers, vik

yay progress, your hole punch rivets are a great idea consider that one nabbed! steampunk suits steel plating as well , some would say more, iam glad you went this way , as it will save you loads of time . gotta say i like your workstation , you have lots of handy tools there.
the sandwhich bag meatl /plastics strips , is also a great idea very flexible and looks like the real deal.
I have not reaserched model steam boilers , but i do have plenty and i mean plenty of pics on victorian age engine rooms. they might help you identify parts that yoy could use!
will post some pics when i find em on the comp!

tower bridge london
http://www.squaremeal.co.uk/include/images/content/4E/060809C1_0007@feature.jpg

locomotive victorian
http://cdn.wn.com/pd/22/98/65a4eaa636e33d336502c701923e_grande.jpg

toy

http://www.antiques-atlas.com/dealer-stock-images/rogerwaldron/Karl_Bub_Toy_Steam_Engine_as172a024b.jpg

i bought some wire on ebay today very cheap £1 for 22 metres lol
good for modeling barb wire but i bet it would come in handy

like this
http://www.mailorder-beads.co.uk/shop/silver-coloured-fine-wire-reel-silver-coloured.html

regards mate glad its comming together!

Is looking very good now with the "rivetted" floor and the idea for the corrugated look is a nice touch, all this ironmongery is so good for that airship!

got me package due to christmas decoration of that wire too, about two weeks ago...works like a charm. also i use it and twist several wireparts into a length of it by means of a drilling machine...works like a charm and you get lovly detailed cables and well cables as well, damn you in english there are so few words sometimes...
that lokomotive looks like someone went wild with a rivetinggun...cool nevertheless...
seems like i have to come up with a wheel as well and a belt...gives the engine so much more powerlook...

in a thread,cant find it in the minute, they talked about not using bendy bits of straw to built bend of pipes, cause it doesnt look right....well since i went steampunk i definatly need lots of pipes but how to do bend then if not that way?...
maybe using big cables from hardwarestore??would that look the part?...

i often think i cant steel so much of your inspirational work from you as i dont want to be a stalker, but often i think there is no use as to not copy some of your work...waht else tere is as to get sinpiared by things you do? so in short well seeing some of my ideas being mastered in your hand sound like something i want to see^^. do you have a holepunch smaller than 2mm? that would look far better...sadly i dont own such a thing...but you have to make do with what you´ve got i guess...

cheers mate, vik


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at shaso, i have to keep very carefull as to not glide into dieselpunk, as this much steel might imply to that genre...but jep, i am rather satisfied with the first tset punches...harharhar sound funny, testpunches...like hey you bugger that...pff pff pfff see waht it got ye^^...


cheers mates, vik again^^

I keep checking into this thread, have never posted or left comments....until now. Its actually starting to look like something to me. I like where its going, I will keep an eye on your progress. I love the idea and hope you can pull it off!

me too, but still lots of work to do, mind´s racing but the hands are far too slow...

vik

I like the idea, it reminds me of the Dwarf airship from the Gortrek and Felix books. I'd like to see the what happens next

I do recall that some pipes that needed a bend used to be cut, and then welded back together at angles. so, if you cut some tubes snip off an angle, and then re-glue them you would have that old fashioned, and possible leaky "L" bend in your pipes that would fit the theme.

Pipe-L sound good, if somewhat tedious to do in lots of bends...the everlasting conundrum do it right or do it quick...

must take a look as to what types of pipes i´ve got...

thanks Wii^^ stay tuned more to follow, be sure of that^^...

vik

I have all sorts of wild ideas! ^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:me too, but still lots of work to do, mind´s racing but the hands are far too slow...

vik

heh heh, every modellers problem...your talent, ambition, and imagination always exceed your time.

and nothing else is needed here^^ without wild ideas this wouldn´t happen at all...
same with that DIY weathering powder...who would have thought that...by the way whats the main difference between pastel chalk and normal(school- ) chalk?

by the way, i do that stuff with a drill and some pieces of wire, drill/spin them together, might that look good as pipes? there would then be no need with actual bends then as it can bend to my merest whim^^

vik

school chalk is usually bolder colored I find.

Hmm that is almost like making guitar wire!

I really like the look of the balloon but not a fan of the placement of the deck... But still looks awesome. How does a balloon balance of the center of mass is not at its lowest point possible... See what I mean? But TBH it wouldn't look near as good on the bottom. When my exams are over ill get my main computer back and can photoshop up something of a new look. To explain something.. cbf typing it haha.

Maybe have something along the lines of steampowered propeller generater like this tug boat?


Here are some pic's for the propeller ideas i found
Use the propeller mount and base for this, well something like it?
http://www.miryestore.com/images/T/CW1V107-0-200x200.jpg

but way cheaper,
ähme, concerning the chalked weathing powder, i thought it must be still painted after aplying, did i get the whole idea behind weatheringpowders wrong, there not only fro structure/surface to use but to color as well? ups...

completly misunderstood that it seems...then it is quite understandabl there is a difference beween types of chalk...

vik


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aqua right on spot, where it hurts^^...
the propeller is exactly like i want it to be looking. the engine looks also like i want it... well kind of...its a mixture of what i´ve got and wahts looks the part...i´m experimenting at the moment, dryfitting and stuff... i guess some lego will get involved too...

as for balance and ofcenter...well the engine and boilers will be sitting in the backthe bridge will be sitting midlle to front so i hope it will even out...
as for placing matter on a baloon, every kid has done that i guess and knows the outcome...bounce...^^
but as this is sifi/ fantasy.,..i definatly aply to the rule of cool here...
as a reminder of how in a way i want this baby to look like:



i just vary this a bit as i wont have an actual airfield on top instead some weapons and stuff...

vik

Re pipes

For a piece of Necromunda industrial terrain I used some scale plastic airplane kit sprue.
It usually has a round section and often has curved corners.

Ideally I would have cut the corner bend offand attach slightly wider discs that act as bolt plates. Then attach the straight pipes.

To save time I simply glued styrene strips around.



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With regard to the flight deck, it might be wirth adding some tie downs, for the aircraft. will try and find a suitable illustration but given the excellent rivetting it should be an easy addition if you feel up to a bit of extra detailing.

keep up the good work Vik

any chance you could CUT into your blimp, and place that wooden floor you have like the airfield view? That would look more sharp and clean looking.

at aqua:

i know waht you want to say and i aggree with you, but i wont cut into the blimp. it did cost me a fair amount of my nerves. but in the next days i will flesh out the deck- blimp intersecting part and then you might think otherwise...i hope so^^

at chibi:

i have some smaller scale tank sprues and some aircraftspues as well will check if the´ve got some round and curvy sprue ends...sond like a good idea...also i love your softdrink watertank... from what did you do the detail work on the upperpart and heck all the aperatures like wheels and stuff?? thats exactly as i see my boiler to be done...

please explain tie downs, as i again reach my language skills...ah checked online for translation... so in short you mean ties and cabels to tie it down wehn parked in the backyard? yes? i will do so, it is in the detailplan, wouldnt dream of letting that kind of realism out^^

and thanks all for the enthusiasm...

vik

That is possibly the best use for a slurpee cup ive ever seen! great scenery

edit oops sorry

Thanks Element

Vik the star like things used to anchor the planes on deck are called tie downs. Stops expensive machinery sliding over the side of the carrier!
You can get ready made ones but how you have done the rivetting could easily be adapted. I may borrow the idea for a deck diorama

The other thing that would be a simple job is to paint some lines on the deck. (or use decals if you have any.)
Again will try and sort out some examples.

The wheels were mostly from a 1/76 scale StugIV that got trashed by a clumsy electrician. They are a tad thick for the scale but I needed something cheap and quick
Other parts were from a Apache helicopter kit that was too rubbish to build as an Apache helicopter!
If you have any spare parts from your kit builds it might be worth having a look