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 Maniac_nmt wrote:
1/72 might be the way to go if you have other folks that are okay gaming in that scale. It's much cheaper and a much larger variety of manufacturers (although 28mm has it's fair share, depending on exactly what you are after you might find getting suitable models hard).

The problem I had with 1/72 is infantry models. There's a LOT of soft plastic models but of wildly varying quality and soft plastic is an absolute nightmare to work with. I bought some 1/72 Airfix Afrikakorps and gave up on them after a few hours of no success trying to clean mould lines off them (tried hot wire, hot knife, soldering iron, scraping and sanding doesn't work).

 Maniac_nmt wrote:
I've said this elsewhere, but it bears saying here. Do not buy Warlord Games tank kits and only buy the infantry kits if you like their models (which are well detailed, and do look good, but...).

Hmm, I did have some bad casts of their earlier kits (the Opel Blitz was terrrrrrible), but I recently got a Puma and a 7TP which were both crisp and perfectly cast.
However Warlord plastics have in my experience so far been excellent. I think my four 251/1's took a total of 30 minutes to assemble and look just great.
I also bought some Polish infantry recently and a couple had the rifle tips broken off, Warlord's new CS rep (Richard Dando, who is single-handedly redefining what good CS means) sent out replacement figures AND a freebie for my trouble.

 judgedoug wrote:

 Maniac_nmt wrote:
I've said this elsewhere, but it bears saying here. Do not buy Warlord Games tank kits and only buy the infantry kits if you like their models (which are well detailed, and do look good, but...).

Hmm, I did have some bad casts of their earlier kits (the Opel Blitz was terrrrrrible), but I recently got a Puma and a 7TP which were both crisp and perfectly cast.
However Warlord plastics have in my experience so far been excellent. I think my four 251/1's took a total of 30 minutes to assemble and look just great.
I also bought some Polish infantry recently and a couple had the rifle tips broken off, Warlord's new CS rep (Richard Dando, who is single-handedly redefining what good CS means) sent out replacement figures AND a freebie for my trouble.

I was underwhelmed with the American GI's I've seen (heads are too big for their bodies), and the metal paratroopers always have at least one broken rifle. I was perhaps a bit harder on them last night that I should have been. The paratrooper models are well detailed, it's just frustrating having to scrap and rebuild so many rifles (I think I'm at about 6 to 8 rifles for about 25 models).

The barrel on my Puma shattered in my hands at first touch of the xacto. The Panzer IV barrel blunted several blades, and was of a similar fragile cast (I ended up grinding the flashing down in the end in places I was so worried about the barrel fracturing), also the mounting arms for the side armor will filled with the brittle flash, which could not be cut or removed with a xacto without shattering it, I tried to grind it out but that ruined one grinding bit and then shattered (meaning I have to build up parts of the mounts from plasticard). The Chaffee I have came with two front hatches that were the same (instead of opposite sides like they should be), a pintle mg that had warped dental floss for a barrel and no suitable way to build the stand, and warped treads (I had to shim with plasticard and now have to putty up the gaps) with massive flash/cast errors. My Half Track's rear door does not line up correctly and will require some work to correct.

Infantry, yes, I would probably buy again. Vehicles, no. Their stuff is just too sloppy.

I've recently built and painted their plastic T-34s. I've not had any experience with their metal/resin vehicles, aside from an M10 I've had for years that I still haven't built yet.

Short version on the T-34s:
They were lovely to assemble and paint.

Long version:
http://azazelx.wordpress.com/2014/09/21/from-the-painting-desk-6-bolt-action-t-3485-citadel-ghosts/
http://azazelx.wordpress.com/2014/09/24/from-the-painting-desk-7-warlord-games-t-3485-soviet-tanks/
http://azazelx.wordpress.com/2014/10/03/bolt-action-28mm-t-3485-tank-platoon/

^^ Excellent work, man. Great weathering too. Everybody should check those tanks out.

I'm working on Soviets right now and I'm just about a 13 guys into a 40 man box. Your tanks have inspired me to paint my armor support. Maybe I'll switch to armor at the 20 mark to break it up a little.

 Maniac_nmt wrote:
[snip horror stories]
Infantry, yes, I would probably buy again. Vehicles, no. Their stuff is just too sloppy.

Good lord man! Yeah if I had your experiences I would not be very happy either.
I would email Rich (info@warlordgames.com) about the broken rifles and any other problems. He's really great and he'll have replacements out to you asap.
Remember you should always report bad QC to any company - sometimes they don't know the product going out is bad if they have a caster/packing person who just isn't good at their job.
Plus the more replacements they have to send out, they're losing money, they'll then be forced to fix the problem in their company that allows bad product to go out.

I've been holding off on this for a long time due to having so much else on the go, but I think Tank War will have to be done... might see about getting a Panzer platoon for Christmas.

 judgedoug wrote:

 Maniac_nmt wrote:
[snip horror stories]
Infantry, yes, I would probably buy again. Vehicles, no. Their stuff is just too sloppy.

Good lord man! Yeah if I had your experiences I would not be very happy either.
I would email Rich (info@warlordgames.com) about the broken rifles and any other problems. He's really great and he'll have replacements out to you asap.
Remember you should always report bad QC to any company - sometimes they don't know the product going out is bad if they have a caster/packing person who just isn't good at their job.
Plus the more replacements they have to send out, they're losing money, they'll then be forced to fix the problem in their company that allows bad product to go out.

I have to agree with this. Warlord Games' customer support is superb. We're talking about the same level or even better than GW.

 Azazelx wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

 Maniac_nmt wrote:
[snip horror stories]
Infantry, yes, I would probably buy again. Vehicles, no. Their stuff is just too sloppy.

Good lord man! Yeah if I had your experiences I would not be very happy either.
I would email Rich (info@warlordgames.com) about the broken rifles and any other problems. He's really great and he'll have replacements out to you asap.
Remember you should always report bad QC to any company - sometimes they don't know the product going out is bad if they have a caster/packing person who just isn't good at their job.
Plus the more replacements they have to send out, they're losing money, they'll then be forced to fix the problem in their company that allows bad product to go out.

I have to agree with this. Warlord Games' customer support is superb. We're talking about the same level or even better than GW.

I probably should have. However the shops I purchased through said this was often a problem they had with Warlord. So I have fixed most everything as I went along.

Their older QC certainly had issues. I managed to get a Kubelwagen minus seats and steering wheel plus a boxed set of SS where the mortar crew was horribly miscast for a huge discount from a local store.

The stuff I got recently was good. The rifle straps on the sprue have snapped a couple of times, but no gorilla arms or peanut heads.