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2014/11/29 15:43:21
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Why is the speeder bike seat so high in the air and how would you get up to it? Seems to defeat the purpose of a speeder bike if it takes five minutes to mount it.
"Oh my goodness I have to run and tell someone of the terrible thing that just happened and is currently happening. Thank goodness I have this speeder to get me there" *Spends the next five minutes looking for a step ladder then trying to balance eventually getting on the speeder before driving off in the hopes that they can find another stepladder to dismount at the next place*
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2014/11/29 15:47:38
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
.... doesn't look like there's any R2/similar units "plugged" into those X-wings ?
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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2014/11/29 16:10:41
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Manchu wrote: If she's sitting on the engines, what's under the hood?
Industrial-size beer-cooler.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
2014/11/29 16:21:04
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Perhaps it's the part that gives it anti-gravity? The engines obviously propel it but don't lift it. It also looks like it'd be a mechanics vehicle, with tools and such in it, or used to pull in heavy scrap.
reds8n wrote: .... doesn't look like there's any R2/similar units "plugged" into those X-wings ?
Certainly seems that way. Maybe Astromech droids are rare 30 years from now?
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They would also be made obsolete if the new xwing had a more advanced navicomputer that could make its own calculations faster.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Could these new-look X-Wings be an in-atmosphere off-shoot of the fighter? It'd explain why they're more streamlined and sans astromech. I'm sure a regular X-Wing is more than capable of performing well on-planet, but removing the need for an astromech, and streamlining the craft to allow for faster speeds and better performance, would likely cut out significant costs and perhaps even require less use of resources to manufacture.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
2014/11/29 16:34:38
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
They seem to provide repairs and act as co-pilots too. I imagine that they'd be really handy for atmospheric flight as there's a lot more going on. Kind of the same way that the Eurofighter is aerodynamically unstable and needs a computer to assist the pilot to account for this.
Perhaps it's all integrated. Then again an Astromech serves greater purposes than just a ship copilot. The OT crew would've been screwed without R2.
Grey Templar wrote: They would also be made obsolete if the new xwing had a more advanced navicomputer that could make its own calculations faster.
Good point. I wonder if that wouldn't be a step backwards technologically? Having a modular navicomp is handy in a number of ways, not least of all because sometimes older droids end up being more reliable than newer models (as I believe was the case with the R2 series). That's all EU nonsense, however, so who knows.
Looking at it from an out-of-universe perspective, astromech droids probably exist so that Artoo could accompany Luke into battle. Maybe the fighter pilots in this movie don't have droid sidekicks.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2014/11/29 16:36:36
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Avatar 720 wrote: Could these new-look X-Wings be an in-atmosphere off-shoot of the fighter?
Could be but that implies a lot about the plot. I think Grey Templar's idea is probably closer to the mark, these are just a newer model -- like how the Storm Trooper armor is different.
ds9lord wrote: Ok (takes a deep breath) what i'm about to say may make some people on this site very angry and I just want to say before I start that i'm not trying troll people or cause any anger I'm
talking about my view on this.... I am a huge fan of the expanded universe of star wars I've read so many books about the old republic and what happened after the movies and I've loved
all of it. Star wars is the one thing I allow my self to be a huge fan boy about and love every part of it no matter what (except the prequels) so when I heard that the new movie would not be
in the expanded universe that had already been created I was pretty angry.
I just felt to me like a incredibly arrogant thing to do to completely ignore the 30 years of stories created by people who enjoyed the movies and wanted to ad to it, I mean there are so many create settings and stories from the expanded universe that they could make a movie about but instead they just ignored it.
And JJ Abrams is really not one of my favorite directors mainly because of into darkness and the cop out move that was making kahn the villain. To me that just felt like a child waving his hands desperately while shouting "ha look at me i'm like the other star trek movies because I have kahn so like me please." But thats of track anyway I will try to go into the movie with a open mind but I might need someone to there to restrain if I start shouting about something not being cannon.
I know what you mean....Kotor is no longer canon
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2014/11/29 16:44:05
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Ahtman wrote: Maybe back during THX1138, American Graffiti, and the original Star Wars* Lucas was a "show not tell" guy but he hasn't been that man for several decades, and certainly wasn't for the prequels.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2014/11/29 16:44:27
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
KotOR is one of my favorite games but I am not at all broken up about it getting axed. It really didn't bring much to the EU. The stuff I most liked about the EU (Tales of the Jedi, Dark Empire) had been pretty much sidelined anyhow. Frankly, I'd rather flush the whole EU completely (as they have) rather than deal with Thrawn again. I know people like that character but ... I mean, honestly, he's just written to be totally perfect and make the Empire seem reasonable and good "if only it weren't for the Sith" which totally misses the point of the Empire.
Flashman wrote: In my view, George Lucas has a great talent for creating a story, he just isn't very good at telling it.
The prequel trilogy actually had a very good plot going on in the background, namely Palpatine's sleight of hand in creating a threat to justify building a clone army at his control, while the heroes chase their tails tackling what they perceive is the more immediate threat.
Yeah. I think George is probably best as a producer, when paired with a strong director who isn't afraid to say "no" or "how about this instead?" from time to time.
That director being Steven Speilberg
Automatically Appended Next Post: In all honesty, I'm scratching my head as to what the story can be. Vader's dead, the Emperor's dead, the death star...you get the picture.
It's like the Americans and the Russians standing in the ruins of Berlin and suddenly the Nazis spring out and say aha - we're back!
If it were up to me, the story would be this:
Endor's trees hacked down and the Ewoks forced into slave labour
Somebody takes a razor to Chewbacca
Somebody sticks Jar Jar's head up a Bantha's rear
and of course, Lando gets the Falcon back
I joke, but seriously, what kind of plot can they conjure up?
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2014/11/29 17:12:02
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
The Emperor and Vader may be dead but the Empire sure as hell hasn't been defeated. It still spans the Galaxy and comprises of vast legions and fleets.
My guess is that there will be some sort of power vacuum but once its been filled the Empire will still a force to be reckoned with and the fledging republic would probably be fighting them for some time to come after Endor.
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2014/11/29 18:25:34
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Look at that picture of the fighter with the blue stripe on it again. That is not an x-wing, there is only one set of wings on it, there is no split on them and there is only one set of cannons on each wingtip as opposed to the two that an x-wing has.
No my friends, we are clearly looking at a Z-95 Headhunter. It was a predecessor to the x-xing and also made by Incom who also manufactured the T-16 that Luke used to bullseye womprats from.
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xraytango wrote: Look at that picture of the fighter with the blue stripe on it again. That is not an x-wing, there is only one set of wings on it, there is no split on them and there is only one set of cannons on each wingtip as opposed to the two that an x-wing has.
No my friends, we are clearly looking at a Z-95 Headhunter. It was a predecessor to the x-xing and also made by Incom who also manufactured the T-16 that Luke used to bullseye womprats from.
It's not a picture, it's a video, one that shows a pair of cannons on the visible wingtip when the camera pans out far enough. It also lacks the short, bulky back end of the headhunter.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
2014/11/29 18:52:54
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
NM, I could have sworn that I saw that ship in a still photo a while back and that it only had a single cannon on each wingtip.
Yep, updated x-wing for sure!
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Like what I have seen so far. It's Star Wars but different, gritty.
The speeder looks kind of cool and different. Seems to me that it might be housing some kind of stabelizer in the body to compensate for it's narrow design.
I know it has been said the lightsaber seems crude in that it isn't functioning like they normally do, almost savage. Maybe this was meant to reflect the Sith who uses it?
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2014/11/29 18:55:14
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
xraytango wrote: Look at that picture of the fighter with the blue stripe on it again. That is not an x-wing, there is only one set of wings on it, there is no split on them and there is only one set of cannons on each wingtip as opposed to the two that an x-wing has.
No my friends, we are clearly looking at a Z-95 Headhunter. It was a predecessor to the x-xing and also made by Incom who also manufactured the T-16 that Luke used to bullseye womprats from.
xraytango wrote: Not talking about the video, I'm talking about the picture with JJ standing next to the full scale prop with the pilot climbing in to it.
That is a still from a video he released in July for a charity drive.
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2014/11/29 18:56:54
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
xraytango wrote: Not talking about the video, I'm talking about the picture with JJ standing next to the full scale prop with the pilot climbing in to it.
...
That's the video (not a picture) I was talking about.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
2014/11/29 19:02:02
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
Armies: Space Marines, IG, Tyranids, Eldar, Necrons, Orks, Dark Eldar.
I am the best 40k player in my town, I always win! Of course, I am the only player of 40k in my town.
Heres a question if EU stuff is now scrapped what happens with the Xwing game? Disney are putting their logo on it but saying the characters and ships don't exist?
2014/11/29 19:04:37
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
The craft seen in the charity video from July is the same thing from the teaser: an X-wing
It was confirmed by the studio right after the charity video was released that it was indeed an X-wing and yes it has changed from the ones we saw 30 years ago. The S-foils are built differently and they open differently as well. They now split down the middle perpendicular to the fuselage, making them thinner overall. It is pretty clear in this picture:
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
2014/11/29 19:05:31
Subject: Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser Trailer
EDIT: Okay, hold on, think I misinterpreted the "see above" comment. I took it as meaning "see what you just quoted", and didn't know you'd actually edited a previous post. Sorry.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
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