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You are correct in noting that the ghosts mentioned are not KS exclusive. For those wanting the scenarios we can make those cards available for P&P once games have shipped. Availability and accessibility of those ghosts post KS is yet to be determined.

I figured this would happen anyways, if they didn't do it someone would have pictures of them. This happened for X-Wing, Attack Wing and even Zombicide by players. The good news is you don't have to purchase the regular mobs if you are really only interested in the scenario cards, since they will be available for Print and Play later. The red ghosts are really only needed for Impossible Mode, although you could use blue and then just use a different base for them... although the easiest thing seems to get the red and use P&P cards, if you need extra ghosts use red for those scenarios as well.

@Manchu

So far I've played about ten games using terrain. For the most part one square equals three inches of movement seems to be working. The randomness can throw a quark in things, there were 2 games where that movement seemed too little and one game where it seemed way too much. On the plus side you don't have to worry about ghosts falling off the table, just have them enter from the other side (like it is done on the board game).

Someone on BGG brought up an interesting question about line of sight. On the board game it seemed fairly straight forward but they talked about tree's, railings, subway entrances, etc. I've always felt like the ghosts were flying, so the railings and entrances didn't really block. Tree's are an interesting thing though to consider. Technically a tree could be large enough to block LoS but usually they aren't big enough to provide cover for miniatures. If the stream hits the tree, is it enough to break it where it would effect the trapping of the ghost?

Protron streams are shown to create a lot of damage so I think anything that would constitute "light cover" wouldn't block line of fire, maybe just give a penalty.

 adamsouza wrote:

 Dark Severance wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
I really don't want to drop the $125, but this is shaping up to look like one of those Kickstarters you grab, or later wish you had, to get all the exclusive loot

Isn't every KS these days starting to feel like that?

I get what you are saying, but I honestly don't feel that way. There are many a KS that doesn't go the extra mile and offer "good" exclusive loot. My Spidey sense is also pretty good about tingling when a KS seems shaky, or when one seems destined for greatness. So far this KS is sending me nothing but good vibes.

I'm in the boat of having absolutely no doubt they'll be able to deliver... because I think they could have very easily gone straight to retail with this. I'd even be willing to wager that a huge portion of this is mostly done and they're just "adding" stuff to keep the momentum going. I backed Rum and Bones and I know for a fact all of those models were ready because they were all existing sculpts and the game itself seemed pretty much ready to go. The speed things are added to Kickstarters like this and the fact that they are ready to roll with images, measurements, etc.. They're milking the pre-order aspect of KS IMO. I wouldn't be surprised if the mass-production work on this wasn't already underway.

Janine and she is pink... I'm overjoyed. Although the color doesn't really matter since I will eventually paint them.


I would be interested in seeing his card or having some more information on how he plays. Hopefully they'll do that when CZE gets back from NYC and Toy Fair.


The next stretch goal and we're back to $50K freebies.

Still no word on how much for the Cabbie add-on?

They said he was only $10 for the Cabbie... at least I'm pretty sure that was it. I'll double check.

And lastly, we want to confirm that the upcoming Zombie Taxi Driver Add-on will be $10. Thanks for all of the continued support, great suggestions and feedback.

Found it, it was at the bottom of a couple updates ago.

We going to be seeing more Ghostbusters, such as the meddling kids from Extreme GB, and the other guy ( I think it was the baby from the first movie) videogame?

Great looking game, I'm hoping to jump on in a couple of days if things go well in the cash front.

I'm liking everything I see so far on this one. Great job!!!!

They did hint at least some others from Extreme GB, Kylie is the second most requested female sculpt next to Janine.

 adamsouza wrote:
I really don't want to drop the $125, but this is shaping up to look like one of those Kickstarters you grab, or later wish you had, to get all the exclusive loot

I'm only a fan of the GBI movie and not the cartoons, so... nope, won't wish this at all. The Janine figure is about it and I'll just wait for a female Paranormal Investigator not-GB miniature whose clothes aren't torn off.

The GB boardgame is trending to 2M+ and, while Cryptozoic has a reputation for mediocre gameplay, it'll deliver.

You can also get some not-GB Paranormal Investigators from Crooked Dice, located in the UK. Savage Ghostbusters is a fanmade ruleset using the Savage Worlds game system.

Been out of town since Thursday. I can tell you that I mentioned the Janine goal getting bumped up the list ASAP and they had definitely noticed demand for it in the comments on KS, so they got her in early. I do know one reason she took a little longer was that they were waiting for the sculpt design to be finished as it was one of the last ones to get started.

I can't speak as to what the other SG's are(NDA nonsense and such) but I can tell you they have more than enough for the pace the campaign is going at. I am waiting to hear back on what will happen with any SG's that don't get announced/hit. If it's models they've already paid to have sculpted then I'd imagine they would want to at least recoup costs on those, but I have no certain answer on it.

Expect plenty more updates this week!

Samhain is unlocked!


Enter the Grey Lady:


Still not too happy about the $50K Stretch Goals. I'll be interested in what their update is today, now that they are back in the office. I want to hope the reason is because we've been unlocking two sculpts, one is a Kickstarter Exclusive and the other is a retail version... but part of me says it isn't. However I will still reserve final judgements until we get much closer to the end, I've seen many campaigns where you think its going on direction and surprise you with a few things you didn't expect.

I hope they start filling us in on some more game-related info, like a look at some of these ghost cards we have been unlocking. It would also be nice to have more video content but I strongly suspect it all needs to be done in CGI (if that's the right term) and the NY Toy Fair is a pretty big distraction for CZE. At this point, I am looking forward to (i.e., hoping for) more info next week.

It was hinted that today would be answering some questions and the game play video would come out in the update. They were going to do it last night but there were some questions they were waiting on an answer for, so hopefully that is today.

I do feel like they should be doing more updates. Usually campaigns release information about the ghosts, their play styles, etc. They don't have to show a picture of the card, they could write up something even if its only a paragraph long but some sort of background is nice.

Yeah, at this point I feel like they are being a bit aloof but I have not followed the comment section very closely since Friday so maybe that has effected my perception.

ced1106 wrote:

You can also get some not-GB Paranormal Investigators from Crooked Dice, located in the UK. Savage Ghostbusters is a fanmade ruleset using the Savage Worlds game system.

They go out of stock, so if you want them.. I'd say get them when you see them. I missed them the previous time and managed to get some this re-stock.They aren't cheap either :(

 MLaw wrote:

ced1106 wrote:

You can also get some not-GB Paranormal Investigators from Crooked Dice, located in the UK. Savage Ghostbusters is a fanmade ruleset using the Savage Worlds game system.

They go out of stock, so if you want them.. I'd say get them when you see them. I missed them the previous time and managed to get some this re-stock.They aren't cheap either :(

They seem to be in stock now, and they're only 15 GBP, which is only what....$22 bucks? $5-6 bucks for a good looking model isn't bad at all

For North Americans, Noble Knight sometimes carries these.

 Manchu wrote:
For North Americans, Noble Knight sometimes carries these.

I did try them but they were out too.. lol it's like these guys are popular or something..




@cincydooley - It's the cost after you add in the shipping. 5 models to the states was 20 GBP. Is that crazy high? Nah, but it's high enough that it ate into my gaming budget.

 MLaw wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
For North Americans, Noble Knight sometimes carries these.

I did try them but they were out too.. lol it's like these guys are popular or something..




@cincydooley - It's the cost after you add in the shipping. 5 models to the states was 20 GBP. Is that crazy high? Nah, but it's high enough that it ate into my gaming budget.

Honestly, after your comment I was expecting them to be north of $10 each, which starts to get a bit high. I've not been to that site before. Thanks for killing my wallet

Did you order from Crooked Dice? I thought their S&H was crazy high.

lol, Crooked Dice is one of those companies that I always forget about..then I remember and it's like.. wait.. those.. arg.. I was going to buy those!!!
I'm really keen on the Task Force X guys and the future rebel types.. I wanted a bunch of those for 28mm Star Wars but it's just not practical.

If you're doing Ghostbusters stuff, Black Cat Bases has some haunted scenery.. hands from a computer screen, a crate with tentacles, that kind of thing.. If you are wanting scenery to make the firehouse from GB, check out Copplestone Casting's Kiss Kiss Bang Bang section and a few of the others.. they have retro/pulp looking computers and furniture that fits the Ghostbusters IMO.


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 Manchu wrote:
Did you order from Crooked Dice? I thought their S&H was crazy high.

Yeah, I ordered from the site :/
All I ordered was the Paranormal Exterminators and it was 5GBP shipping. Ugh..

That doesn't sound too outrageous at all!

Off Topic here, but I need the help!

All this talk of alternate Ghost Busters made me remember that that was someone out there that did a not-Scooby Gang set of minis - anyone remember who?

Heresy?

Hasslefree?

Someone else?

And didn't someone also do a Mystery Machine too?

 Alpharius wrote:
Hasslefree?

Yep:They also do post-apoc versions for Zombie games, I guess.

Funny to see Scoob looking so, erm, anatomically correct.

Here's the Mystery machine
http://www.armorcast.com/modern-terrain/modern-vehicles/clue-contraption-hippie-van

Sweet - thanks guys!

Maybe we can work out a Scooby/GB crossover?

Heresy has some nicer demon dogs if you're going all in

For the actual boardgame that the kickstarter is for.. it'd be kinda funny if that old 80s Ghostbuster cartoon got a nod somehow.. The one with the Gorilla and the wacked out old car.

I'll still reserve judgement until the last 24 hours, they might have some other surprises but that last update pretty much cinches it on the reason for high stretch goals and goal. It doesn't appear there is going to be any real support for this game outside of the KS and initial retail boxes. Since all KS exclusives are truly exclusives, no alternate sculpts for anything to be released retail then that means characters like Janine, terror dogs will never be available for those who missed the KS. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that...

I honestly feel like I am being lied to about the exclusives. It's hard to imagine them never making Gozer, the Terror Dogs, and the Grey Lady available outside of this KS. And I do think it is misleading if what they really mean is that these sculpts are exclusive or maybe even these sculpts in a certain color.

 Manchu wrote:
I honestly feel like I am being lied to about the exclusives. It's hard to imagine them never making Gozer, the Terror Dogs, and the Grey Lady available outside of this KS. And I do think it is misleading if what they really mean is that these sculpts are exclusive or maybe even these sculpts in a certain color.

Yeah that is the unfortunate part, they will never be made in any form, alternate sculpt or color.

The characters exclusive to this campaign, in any form, will only be available through Kickstarter.
-Mataio Wilson

I'm trying to be polite but the only reason to do that is because this is a one print run type of thing. Print off 100,000 or however many copies they get for $250K and that is it, they won't do a second printing or release anything else. It essentially says there will be no further support or release of any future products, just this game by itself. Most of their games are like that but I was hoping this might be an actual franchise where they'd have and update new stories and ghosts, expansions eventually. Given the current answers and plans it does not look like that and unfortunately just makes the whole thing feel like a complete cash grab (especially given the high stretch goal amounts). I'm torn because the game was fun to play, for what we've tested here in the play group and I like Ghostbusters and was hoping to see more. I however also have some friends who I know can't back the KS for various reasons, most likely they'll never get into the game because they can't ever get a Janine or other Ghostbuster sculpts. It also means onces the rules are out, more people will just get "not Ghostbusters". If this wasn't an IP and was just a KS Board Game, I could seriously see this backslide and probably the only thing that saves it is because it belongs to an existing known, loved IP.

On the plus side I guess its a good thing I've been testing rules using miniatures terrain instead of a game board to move this to a miniatures style game vs a board game.