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 Motograter wrote:
And marvel universe has arrived. 3 boxes and 3 blisters, tokens and template. Obviously more will follow

Sweet, very interested to see what new models this leads to. Hoping for the full cast of the 90s x-men cartoon! I loved that show. Is there a new rulebook? I don't see one on the site.

By the way, that template is 3-dimensional? Interesting. Was there something like that for Batman?

The rulebooks are included in the starters, 36 pages if I recall which is pretty substantial. No sign of an online version yet, though all the stat cards are on their site.

I.... think... I might have finished painting Superman. Maybe...



Incidentally, still nowhere near brave enough to try to paint eyes.

Funnily enough, I've to repainted all the edge highlighting on the cape, as I tried doing the whole red glaze thing, which seemed to end up completely obliterating it all...

I'm definitely up for getting any advice on what I should do with him now.

Probably just varnishing time though? Satin then Matt varnish, if I remember right?

So I ended up ordering xmen and deadpool

Awesome! Any idea where you'll be going on the painting front? I've decided I'll be going full 90s cartoon/comic book on mine, at least as far as the colours go. None of those boring black/blue jumpsuits from the films!

Not ordered the Avengers or X-men yet, but I will very soon, definitely while they're still on pre-order.

The other thing I found is that if you drop Thor and Widow from The Avengers, and move Wolverine over to them, that's equal to the remaining X-men at around 21 points. Might be good for demo games, and will almost certainly form the 'base teams' of the AvX campaign I have planned once we have a few more options for each side (We need Magneto, Emma Frost, Storm. Spidey and Captain Marvel pronto!)

Yeah probably going cartoon style for mine too. Was sonewhat tempted to paint up the xforce or the xmen deadpool costume he made for himself but I think I'll stick with the classic unless they make multiple deadpool.

Bit of a Shame that Cyclops has the head balaclava thing instead of hair.

Heads up, an (presumably unofficial) Spidey and MUMG forum has been set up here:
http://marvel-minis-gaming.proboards.com/

Pre-orders should be shipping the end of this week, I think, so let's have a head count, who's in on MUMG?

AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!

I've ordered xmen and deadpool? Yourself?

Not yet... but I absolutely will be before the week is out and they start shipping! Avengers for my brother, X-men for myself to start off with.

Gonna read some Xmen comics on Marvel Unlimited to prepare.

I'm going for The X-Men myself, with a mate going for the Avengers. Of course, we're both getting a Deadpool, naturally.

I haven't heard many people voting for the Guardians of the Galaxy though. I'm wondering if maybe it's the sculpts. - Gamora looks incredibly slender and delicate, Star-lord looks closer to Bayonetta than Chris Pratt and, for me at least, I'd have preferred the movie Rocket.

Drax is the best one of the lot of the guardians.

The lack of Groot might be a problem.

The Guardians set definitely has the weakest sculpts' aesthetically/design wise, they're all fine, but Gamora looks tiny and Starlord is about 3/4 legs and 1/4 upper body, not to mention a pretty awkward pose. Rocket is fine, Drax and Nova are great, but Gamora and Starlord are poor, I think.

I love the guardians. Hate the avengers even though its my favorite. Id far rather have movie sculpts then old comic book ones.

On another note. Whats the turn around on knight models getting back to customer service. I want to cancel a preorder sibce flgs is getting it and havent heard anything for days

So, I've been thinking about getting the 70mm Superman model.

But... I'm kinda concerned about the parts breakdown of it and general experiences with it for that matter.

It seems to be a VERY unstable model, potentially....

Not a huge fan of the guardians models myself. Also my only real exposure to them is the film.

Anyone get any shipping notification? I know the site says estimate shipping the 24th, and im sure it will take awhile to get to the US.

Tried to contact them, and havent heard anything back for days

str00dles1 wrote:
Anyone get any shipping notification? I know the site says estimate shipping the 24th, and im sure it will take awhile to get to the US.

Tried to contact them, and havent heard anything back for days

Due to really high demand, they stated there's been a delay of a week, so everything should start shipping first week of march or so

So, this is how Poison Ivy is going after week 1.



My latest stage was trying to give her skin a greenish tinge. I think I mostly succeeded alright, there were a couple of points (mostly on her hands) that went a bit overboard.



So, that was with Waywatcher Green glaze, I found an attempt at using the shade overdid it a little. - I'll be layering it next, which is going to be interesting. Ideally it'd be mostly normal skin with the layering (I'll need to be VERY careful where I'm painting, but hopefully practice with superman should help there.). But I'll see if I can put a little greenness into there too without overdoing it.

KM are on fire! Flash and Arrow expansion incoming! (Cheers to Drazz for posting this across to Dakka)

 drazz wrote:
Batman MIniature Game expansion announced today. Looks like the CW is coming to town!

(Sorry, no insider info yet. Will check sources today.)

Really looking forward to this one, I've been saying for ages that BMG could really use some expansion material so I hope they make the most of the potential here. Also opens up so many minis, being a full expansion. Gimme Captain Cold and Heatwave, The ATOM, Flash and Reverse Flash, Firestorm, GRODD!

Just wanted to say here also my order has been dispatched on the 8th. They said I should have the stuff in 6-8 days in the US

I had pre-ordered within minutes of the game going up on a U.S. site...also posted all the U.S. sites to the FB page and the forum. Really excited...started some very positive threads about terrain and local gaming spots...
but then the delay happened...not a deal breaker for me...but the lack of communication from KM WAS a big concern for me.
I mentioned my concerns on the "official" facebook page...mentioned that several of my friends had already been burnt by BMG and it's poor distribution in the US...
I got a pretty sharply worded PM from "Drew Wood"...basically "cut the negative crap out"
I explained my concerns to him...
And was banned from every KM group...and told I was a Troll...a loud mouth and whiny.
WTF?
that is how you turn an excited fan into a person looking for another game...
cancelled my Preorder ($81) and put that money into another game that treats it's customers...well...like customers.

Sometimes people see themselves as 'gatekeepers' of a, well, to be honest, fandom. With knightmodels being a relatively small community, it's very easy to fall foul of overzealous fans. Sometimes, it's attempts in this case to hide negativity, othertimes, it's things a lot nastier.

The thing to remember is that the fans are not the employees. - In this case, I imagine that person administers many of those fan pages.

Knight Models seem to very much rely on others to do pretty much every ancillary thing to the game. - EG, the Army List builder is separately hosted at http://www.hero-builder.net

The one true tournament legal, official rulebook, is again on a separately hosted page, http://www.critskillpeople.com

Ultimately, what's worth remembering, is that Knight Models number maybe 3-5 people at most and it is possible not to overzealous fans taint your experiences of a company or game.

Me, personally, I have no intention of ever going to a Batman Miniatures Game tournament, or marvel for that matter. I only really play the games with close friends at my club. I could choose to concern myself with the games fandom as a whole but I basically choose not to deal with the stress (when I can, at least).

In the meantime, my mates and I play Batman. Because, well, because Batman.

I wasn't too clear...

the PM I received was from Drew Wood...the designer of the game and one of the FB moderators.

I'm sure he's one of the moderators/page-admins, yeah. - Not 100% certain about being one of the game designers (He's not Spanish, for one, for another, he doesn't list himself as being employed by them, something that a working games designer for a company would probably do). You could be right, of course, but a quick googling suggests he's more of an fan-with-connections, than an employee.

In any case, I wouldn't write the game off, myself. I'd probably write off the facebook communities though. :p

 Compel wrote:
I'm sure he's one of the moderators/page-admins, yeah. - Not 100% certain about being one of the game designers (He's not Spanish, for one, for another, he doesn't list himself as being employed by them, something that a working games designer for a company would probably do). You could be right, of course, but a quick googling suggests he's more of an fan-with-connections, than an employee.

In any case, I wouldn't write the game off, myself. I'd probably write off the facebook communities though. :p

the info was from a pretty reliable source...but I don't have the rulebook so maybe he's not. I know he is "Doctor Warlock" on the forums (which I have also been banned from)
I've been gaming for a long time...and I have had my share of disagreements with people but I have never been banned from a group...and never PMEd with insults by the guy banning me.
I was looking forward to it...but that treatment really turned me off...I did let KM know but no response yet (the incident happened on March 6th I think...but I wasn't able to find a real way to communicate with KM until last week).
Truthfully a well worded apology would be enough to set it straight.




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by the way...this is the response (private message) to Drew Wood that got me banned

"I have been very clear in my criticism.
BMG could not get a foothold in the U.S. because of KM's poor distribution.
I want to like MUMG...I want to support it...but I am not getting my group excited about a game if they can't buy.
I tried that with BMG...and all I got was some frustrated friends. I will see what KM can do with this...if they haven't increased their resources for this game then they can't expect people to blindly support it.
constantly deleting posts that you don't agree with is going to make the group a very quiet echo chamber."

I don't know about Marvel, but, for Batman:
"Game Design and Development: Gustavo Adolfo, Cuadrado Egea, Francisco Conde, Nunez and Luis Escudero Moran.

Editors: Mark Latham and Gustavo Adolfo Cuadrado Egea
Translation Mark Latham and Andres Herranz Alonso.

There is a special thanks to him and the others in the Arkham City Limits facebook group, which isn't too big a surprise, really.

yeah it seems my information may not have been accurate...I know he is a big part of the BMG scene in the UK...I think he ran the big event at "Wayne manor" a while back.
once again...just looking for an apology for being treated disrespectfully by one of their people.

here was his response after banning me

"You know what mate, I tried to be nice - and you are arguing

One of the distribution issues is down to the bigger "middle men" not wanting to take it on - take that up with them.

As for the "constantly deleting posts" - no offence, we only do that with people who are rude/pushy/trolls/rules-breakers - and the ACL has been run that way from the start - its a "echo chamber" with 2,241 members and (no doubt) more on the way. Many of which feel welcome and unimpaired by trolls and unpleasantness.

We run the group for everyone, not just the few loud mouth curmudgeons who like to be a bit whiney because they cant have their own say.

This is run like a club, albeit an online club - we expect good behaviours from members. If you can't provide that - you aren't welcome.

After discussing it with the rest of the team - You've been removed from all official Groups - and you can rejoin on the express understanding, you stop moaning and being confrontational."


"

Just one of those things, I'm afraid, admins can run their groups (or forums), how they wish.

In any case, I can't wait for the Marvel game, myself. - Though I do have more Batman ninjas to paint first. It'd be nice to get a painted faction. Mostly right now, I've just been pottering around various characters and not been doing any henchmen. - Poison Ivy was my most recently painted mini, for example.

Marvel wise, I'm going for the X-Men, though I did buy the original version of the Black Widow mini too. - I have the horrible, horrible feeling that means I'll end up buying the Avengers at some point...

Yeah, the big reason I never went beyond the rulebook with BMG is the attitude and behaviour of KM and the group admins - which surprised me as I worked with Drew many years ago and Ian is a decent guy too.