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^Look at the base, not the head. There's your size difference. If you put them in the same bases like I did, they are identical.

That "Space Marine sizes" picture is extremely dishonest - putting cultists on the far left (who are mere humans and not the supposedly 8' marines) and terminators on the right (who are in considerably more bulky armor in the first place).

I've got over 400 space marines ranging from RT-01 to marines bought as part of Kill Team just before 8th dropped. The size difference between them all is not noticeable.

Now, purely looking at terminators over the ages is a different story...

Those RTB 01 guys are definitely smaller. But that won't stop me from using them!

 Irbis wrote:
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A fair point. I was initially thinking of the old vs new marine idea, which I still think would not make a noticeable difference for gameplay. But yeah, that is quite the difference, which would impact piling in, LOS and terrain. Tho I've been told on this site that terrain doesn't do anything anyway.

As for the space marines scale, I have some marines from 3rd and some newer ones and they are roughly the same size. I say roughly because I haven't actually measured them. They actually blend in very well. Tho the new Chaos units and Deathwatch are noticeably taller. (unless the deathwatch are built from the standard marine kit, which means mixing heights is legal and supported I guess)

 Stormonu wrote:

Also, 8E’s narrative took a sharp right turn. Previously, the game was somewhat nillistic - mankind was on the verge of collapse and it was just a question what force - Chaos or xenon - that was going to take them out. With Guilliman’s return and the arrival of Primaris, it very much feels like an Imperium reborn that has a fighting chance to not only rebuild, but wipe away the errors of the past. Definitely, the fluff is ascribing more heroic ideals to the almost formerly oppressive, totalitarian, xenophobic outlook of the Imperium. Personally, I miss the “we’re all doomed, but let’s try to die a heroic, if ultimately futile death” of the old narrative.

You're assuming the current narrative is permanent.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:

Also, 8E’s narrative took a sharp right turn. Previously, the game was somewhat nillistic - mankind was on the verge of collapse and it was just a question what force - Chaos or xenon - that was going to take them out. With Guilliman’s return and the arrival of Primaris, it very much feels like an Imperium reborn that has a fighting chance to not only rebuild, but wipe away the errors of the past. Definitely, the fluff is ascribing more heroic ideals to the almost formerly oppressive, totalitarian, xenophobic outlook of the Imperium. Personally, I miss the “we’re all doomed, but let’s try to die a heroic, if ultimately futile death” of the old narrative.

You're assuming the current narrative is permanent.

He's also missing a lotta the details, yes we see a lot of fluffed imperium victories but thats been the case for ages. when you look at the state of the galaxy though the IoM is fethed harder then it'd ever been