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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 20:27:18
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Fixture of Dakka
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Inquisitor S. wrote:And another question for A. J.:
I give you my word as a freelance artist and business man. (-Aj)
What's your business? Where's your business?
"Exiled Miniatures"
http://exiledminiatures.blogspot.com/
He has less then 20 posts, its not hard to look through them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 20:27:30
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Inquisitor S. wrote:So I have some questions, A J.:
- Why are you doing the moderator job on RF's Facebook page?
- Are you being paid to be a moderator?
- Do you get recomenpsation for your work such as models or bits?
- What's your connection to "Kim"?
- Do you know "Kim" face to face?
- Have you met Daniel Mandelbaum in person?
- Have you met Jason Martin in person?
I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.
tiger g wrote:Not sure of the business model. They are selling forge world bits. They are not an authorized dealer. (to my knowledge no one is an authorized forge world dealer in the US). If they were they could not sell out of country and selling bits of a GW product is not allowed by GW (I know Forgeworld is a separate company but they have the same problem with forged bits and the same rules).
So she has $8000 of bits at the same cost we paid, To get a decent profit margin she has to up the cost. (also every bit will not be sold as not all are unusual).
She has to go through the time to register (this costs no money and takes 30 minutes online - done it for 30 states in the last 2 years).
Now has a moderator for face book so additional expense or time not compensated.
Need to pay those for the conversions and have a mark up.
All work is manual and time comsuming.
Not sure this is the best model to make any money unless they come out with their on line of goodies (should read the final results of the last lawsuit to understand what they can and cannot do.)
Good luck in overcoming the above and previous bad press. Would be interested in seeing the business plan.
It's a tough business especially in current times. But as far as I know part of the plan is to expand the selection of what the store carries including adding hobby supplies and other product.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 20:27:59
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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ExiledMiniatures wrote:Hey guys I just want to chime into this firestorm.
My names Aj Thornton and yes I am the new page manager of the resin forge Facebook page. I was a customer before and never had an issue with any orders.
I understand sometimes things happen in business and bad practice can leave a bitter taste, but I assure you that any problem will be dealt with.
As for my Facebook page, I've had the same account since 2006 when I was a freshman in high school back in 2006. Yes the name is inappropriate but Facebook will not allow me to change it and I'm not going to lose the memories and friends I have on Facebook because of that. I only linked my profile in my post to introduce myself, show that I am a real person (as in not dm) and to provide a way for people to contact me in regards to the Facebook page. I have no personal connection to any of the previous owners of resin forge and therefore have no reason to have them on my friends list.
Whether or not you like Daniel he has left the business. IF you do not trust Kim to follow through with her promises and to fullfill orders then do not order, but the insults and hatred are not necessary.
If you personally were ripped off by Daniel or resin forge, there is a hotline number that can be called. If you still are unsatisfied with the resolution, contact us and we will do whatever we can to work it out with you.
All of these claims take time away from providing a great customer experience and that is why I offered to help Kim out. I have worked retail since I was 16 and been a commission painter on the slider since I was 14. I am here to manage content and Facebook and help with any issues that I can.
I apologise for any misspelling in this post. I am posting from a cracked iPod screen. I will run a spellcheck from my pc later.
I wish you all well, happy modeling!
Aj
Hi, AJ. Two questions for you...
1) Have you ever met Kim in person?
2) Are you familiar with the "history" between her and Daniel? I put "history" in quotes, because I don't believe it's history.
Eric
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 20:30:45
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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I also keep WIP blogs in forums like CMoN, Bolter andchainsword, and international brotherhood of hobbyist using William T. (Middle name last initial) master chaplain astador (my original forum alias from 2003) and exiled miniatures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 20:33:00
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Wraith
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AJ I don't know you from Adam, if you want to keep your good name that you have been building get out of this situation. This is all part of the normal scheme that is run by this individual. They con a well meaning third party into being a part of this and they take the hit along with the company when it gets dumped. This has happened before and it will happen again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 20:34:41
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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ExiledMiniatures wrote:Inquisitor S. wrote:So I have some questions, A J.:
- Why are you doing the moderator job on RF's Facebook page?
- Are you being paid to be a moderator?
- Do you get recomenpsation for your work such as models or bits?
- What's your connection to "Kim"?
- Do you know "Kim" face to face?
- Have you met Daniel Mandelbaum in person?
- Have you met Jason Martin in person?
I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.
Sorry, you have mug written all over you. We've seen this before, people sucked in to act as a go-between or independent party that will be hit by all the splatter when it goes west.
You don't *know* these people at all. How do you know that you didn't speak to Daniel when you thought you spoke to Jason? No one knows where they stand with these people and he's known to use many identities. You're putting yourself at risk, ask other people who have tried to be helpful to sort out Daniel's schemes. They all get burned. Don't accept gifts or incentives from them ('compensation'), don't get involved.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 20:36:58
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
Oh, it is of a lot of interest if somebody has financial interest in the "company" (never any business registration proven). Is Exiledminiatures connected to Resin Forge businesswise? Automatically Appended Next Post: @A. J.: go to Facebook. Talk to "The Hairy Painter" (also a commission painter). Listen to what he has to say about this.
Or if not, then not. But no complaints afterwards if you are suddenly in as collateral damage because DM or whoever is there decides to use you as a meatshield. If you want to play mediator, go ahead, but don't get dragged in with his special offers if you send him customers (going rate he offered was 20% off last time). Do what you want, but don't attach your business to his if you value your reputation, enough people around who can sing a song about that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 20:51:40
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Feldwebel
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I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
I take you mean 'in general' here, as all the conversions were done by one Mr D.Mandelbaum.
Be a bit difficult to get more of the conversion work you claim to be a fan of considering 'Daniel' has left the building....
And BTW - when grammar, syntax, and general posting demeanour are taken into account, Jason is Daniel, Daniel is Matthew and all three appear to be KimSteph (apart from the voice who may or may not be DanJasMatts ex-girlfriend).
Also - many of the abusive and defensive posts, not to mention the down right whacko phone calls were from KimSteph - the very same person who is now attempting to appear like the sane one of the three stooges....
I'd tread VERY carefully if I were you AJ - they have a tendency to take the innocent down with them when they fall. Automatically Appended Next Post: (I'm starting to think keeping track of MandleBonder requires complex Venn diagrams reading back part of my post)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 21:03:00
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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I like how all of my posts are being ignored by AJ.
Also, you live a stones throw from Dallas, so why would RF take you on officially without bothering to go meet you.
I'd be interested in speaking with you though. Kim has my contact info, I'm in the office until 2pm PDT M-F.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 21:07:04
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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ExiledMiniatures wrote:I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.
If you have never met them in person, and I do not recall seeing you make many comments during the time Daniel was employed with them, could I ask how you got involved with Resin Forge. Was it through a third party? Who approached whom?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 21:35:38
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Dreadclaw69 wrote: ExiledMiniatures wrote:I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.
If you have never met them in person, and I do not recall seeing you make many comments during the time Daniel was employed with them, could I ask how you got involved with Resin Forge. Was it through a third party? Who approached whom?
Same way the lawyer 'approached' resin forge, which then 'scammed' them when they ( lol) paid him via paypal.
Oh and one of the RF guys deleted my posts asking about this.
AJ, mind unbanning everyone from the RF site?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 21:39:33
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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I highly doubt I'll get unbanned.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 21:44:37
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Oh and one of the RF guys deleted my posts asking about this.
You asked when about what precisely?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 21:54:05
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Sorry for my delayed responses guys, I'm still at work for the day and getting slammed. Ill reply to everyone I can as soon a so can.
Awrethan: I'm sorry you feel I'm ignoring your posts, I feel most the answers were covered in my responses to other questions. If you shoot me a pm with your contact info we can arrange a time to talk or we can discuss in pm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 22:18:35
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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MajorTom11 wrote:
Want to start taking a bit of responsibility and make it harder to cast doubts (which is extremely easy when you just say 'now I'm this person and I'm gonna do X,Y,Z so that's proof and anyone attacking us is a hater'. That's not proof, that's a statement from someone not to be trusted in the first place. You'll have to do better.
You can start with:
- Providing your business registration number
- Providing definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence.
- Providing the previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever.
That will help.
As a suggestion, acknowledging that Mandelbaum indeed has a terrible history and addressing the disgusting track-history he had with the community, the aliases, the lies, the deadbeat service, all of it. As long as you pretend like that is made up, or that it is somehow up for debate, you will never, ever, ever be free from guilt by association. He is one of the absolute worst the community has ever known, we will never forget.
So long as you keep dodging over and over and over again instead of addressing the business # (both past and present) and the HH weekender, you are starting the race already having lost.
AJ, you are ignoring offering any concrete evidence and are simply spitting out platitudes. You want to do the community a favor? Read the threads referenced in the first post of this very thread and realize you are one of many in a long line of 'ablative white knights'. How do I know? I was one of them. So were a few other fair minded people who gave the benefit of the doubt to a compulsive liar. Their names are referenced in that post.
If you continue to post here, I highly suggest you start actually giving out some info that we have asked for relentlessly since this began or just finally admit that RF doesn't have it because it doesn't exist. I'll remind you again -
- Providing RF's business registration number - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Providing definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around.
- Providing the supposed previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally.
Keep showing up here and keep being hammered for these items. Think to yourself though, it's pretty straightforward stuff. You can probably figure out 16 different ways yourself of how they could offer evidence that they went to the HH weekender. If you are interested in doing things the right way and live in texas you know they need that business number, and it is there for customers use, so why hide it for months constantly waffling?
If you read what they wrote on their FB page, I am sure you came away with the impression we are monsters on a witch hunt here at Dakka. Mandelbaum (the gentleman who's conversions you love so much) is an expert deceiver and spin artist. Take an evening and review the case history. I beg of you. See if you still feel so sure everything is on the up and up after that.
And I remind you, and all others, RF has not been accused of chronic fraud or not delivering, though there have been hiccups and questionable activity such as casting other peoples knight titans for sale, or at least trying to. So far, they did ok and on performance to date as RF they don't deserve any huge attention. That is if you disregard insane facebook posting and phone harrassment anyways. The issue is RF is not just RF, but another company in a long line of Mandelbaum ventures, and in all his previous ventures, he screwed people over after a 6 month to a year period of reputably doing business. So, if you bother to understand the history here (absolutely corroborated and backed up by evidence history), you would not need to point out that RF has not messed up badly to us as if that is the end of the argument. It's not. It's the scary part.
Review. Look at everything. Do the right thing. And stop dodging the main questions quoted above please.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 22:47:52
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Art Steventon wrote:Tiger G - Forge World already confirmed that RF / Daniel MandleBonder were customers of FW and nothing more.
Forge World do not, have have never, authorised any other body outside of GW to sell their product in any form of 'official' manner.
If a Forge World staff member, who can't spell his companies name in the official sig, confirms in an email that several private persons (most of which can't spell their own name) together form a decent company, then something is odd. Esp. when said decent company confirms plan to get legal in the future after many many years of business.
If Daniel's girlfriend pays Daniel to leave Daniel's company, something is odd as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 23:03:48
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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If a Forge World staff member, who can't spell his companies name in the official sig, confirms in an email that several private persons (most of which can't spell their own name) together form a decent company, then something is odd. Esp. when said decent company confirms plan to get legal in the future after many many years of business.
If Daniel's girlfriend pays Daniel to leave Daniel's company, something is odd as well.
This suddenly reminded me that there is still this BIG support show of Forge World for Resin Forge that we were promised. Where is that? Should be about time now, no?
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confirms in an email that several private persons (most of which can't spell their own name) together form a decent company
He never wrote "company". He wrote "group". Which of course immediately brought us to the question: how the feth would a FW person know which persons belong to a group
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 23:47:55
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Art Steventon wrote:Tiger G - Forge World already confirmed that RF / Daniel MandleBonder were customers of FW and nothing more.
Forge World do not, have have never, authorised any other body outside of GW to sell their product in any form of 'official' manner.
What is your point as a business they have a high cost which effects their profit margins. I am asking what is the business plan? They can never sell gw main products and need volume to make any money. I never said they were selling illegally. Automatically Appended Next Post: Adding hobby supplies will not make enough money as everyone else is doing it. Will need funding for inventory and they cannot afford to set up the simple filing for doing business in texas
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 23:56:27
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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His point was that RF is not in any way shape or form affiliated with FW. They buy from them, just like any of the rest of us. At times they had alluded to having a much deeper (and impossible) relationship. He is also pointing out that the FW letter had some weirdness in it. I.e RF presented the letter as if it was ironclad and official proof they aren't recasters, which is not something this forum has been pre-occupied with anyways.
It was just smokescreening to try to distract from the real questions we are and have always been interested in, namely -
- Providing RF's business registration number - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Providing definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around.
- Providing the supposed previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 00:16:52
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
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You guys know that in a few days there could well be a post on RF's wall saying 'I tried to engage dakka and showed them proof but they just attacked me and kept hounding me for more and more', to which the regular posters there will go 'Oh no that wretched place, you poor thing, at least you tried to give them evidence, it's up to them that they ignored it' and cheer their hero. As has happened every other time someone has shown up here posting in favour of RF, despite never actually providing any answers to the questions we actually need answered; - Providing RF's business registration number - or admit that it was/is operating illegally. - Providing definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. - Providing the supposed previous business registration number proving the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. As opposed to the questions we never really needed answered (or even asked); -how much stock do you have and can you provide us with pictures -are you recasters -have you committed fraud as RF This is almost silly at this point, they won't own up and provide registration of any kind, and when they eventually fold those who supported them will be hurt and left to the wolves while he starts his next company. Have people tried emailing the relevant authorities re: no business registration et al? I considered it but felt that an Australian email will have little relevance to them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 00:24:51
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Agreed as they buy from forgeworld like us they can display pictures of their product. (not sure what legal right gw had to request pictures be removed from their website as they have no legal agreement)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 00:49:02
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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At this point, I almost feel it would be better for RF to somehow quietly admit that they were recasters; then, any reference to them on Dakka would quickly be stamped out. :p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 01:03:08
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Dawnbringer wrote:At this point, I almost feel it would be better for RF to somehow quietly admit that they were recasters; then, any reference to them on Dakka would quickly be stamped out. :p
Nope, no one here thinks they are currently recasting, drop it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 02:28:07
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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I think there are enough reasons to have Dakka on the RF case without having to make them up and commit libel in the process.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 02:42:10
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Exactly. Let's just stick to the issues we know about for sure.
So AJ? Still waiting sir -
- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 02:45:19
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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I quite like AJ's work on the Exiled Minitures blog - some very nice painting there (nice face painting tutorial!).
I sincerely hope that this doesn't blow up in his face as it did to The Hairy Painter & Eye of Error/Lucky No.5 in the past.
I must admit that if I am any example of the standard hobby enthusiast I can't see how many people would feel comfortable ordering from RF.
This is also coming from someone who found out about this from RF's rants first (on their facebook while searching for FW parts).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 03:03:49
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Yup, if AJ is indeed who he claims to be which I am inclined to believe he is (sorry AJ, you have to understand believing anyone is who they say they are when Mandelbaum is involved is extremely sketchy at best) then he is the latest in a long list of people with good morals trying to smooth out a mess for someone they believe is being unfairly accused.
I was one of em during the Lord.Serpius Persona and dealt with Daniel in good faith while he was pretending to be Susan Bisley... while still pretending to be Matt Bonder on top of it lol. It was only the revelation that Bisley had a son and the line-up of other facts that ultimately finally revealed this cowards real name.
Think about it AJ, this guy has spend years and years pretending to be near on a dozen other people... is that normal behavior for someone acting in good faith and with honesty, intending to be responsible to their clients? Hell no. Not to mention hiding and not answering with clients while taking new orders, then claiming he, his wife or his fictional daughter had cancer and that is why he couldn't live up to his obligations... then ultimately just disappearing and getting away with it due to the layers of aliases.
Don't take my word for it. Take his. Read his own words where he screws himself up losing track of his lies at various times. Listen to the harrasing voicemails left over the years as various identities all in his voice from his Dad's number. You don't need me, or anyone else, you just need a bit of your own time and an ounce of faith that maybe we are telling the truth about this and we are genuinely worried about you getting involved here for your own sake.
You can believe me or not, it's up to you. The evidence is there, any sane person would certainly be alarmed at the least upon reading it, and the Mandelbaum hallmarks are all over this, even now.
This isn't a game. It's not retail. You have put your good name on a PR nightmare the scope of which I don't think you fully grasp. Don't underestimate who you are dealing with, nor the potential heartache you will undergo down the line. Invest a few hours in yourself, and review the evidence here and all over the community.
If you do persist in working with RF though -
- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 03:44:36
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.
Okay, seriously. I think you guys need to stop hammering AJ for this information. He's just some guy who doesn't realize what he's getting himself into. He volunteered to help with their site. That's it. He's not a business partner in RF, and he wouldn't/shouldn't have access to the kinds of records you're harassing him over.
I think all of the talk and attempted coersion to get him to read up on DanMatt MandelBonder's history is smart, helpfu and HUGELY justified. Pestering him about this stuff, though, is just off base.
Eric
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 03:55:44
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Unless he Is in fact another cleverly crafted Mandelbonder alias.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 04:35:46
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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MagickalMemories wrote:- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.
Okay, seriously. I think you guys need to stop hammering AJ for this information. He's just some guy who doesn't realize what he's getting himself into. He volunteered to help with their site. That's it. He's not a business partner in RF, and he wouldn't/shouldn't have access to the kinds of records you're harassing him over.
I think all of the talk and attempted coersion to get him to read up on DanMatt MandelBonder's history is smart, helpfu and HUGELY justified. Pestering him about this stuff, though, is just off base.
Eric
Sorry Eric, but I disagree. First, those questions are not just for AJ, it is important to repeat them over and over just to prove the point of how evasive RF really is. That, and to make it crystal clear to even a casual reader that when RF starts throwing hissy fits that we are calling them re-casters etc, it just isn't so. Second, If AJ himself as an RF 'insider' cannot get a straight answer regarding these very straightforward and simple questions, then that should help encourage him to look into it more.
The fact is, RF should have those business numbers if they are operating legally. The whole point of having those numbers is so customers and the public can identify them as a legally operating entity. It should not be 'private information' to disclose who owns the business and where it runs from. If they are legit, what was there to worry about? They were hiding that info even before Mandelbaum was outed and have failed to produce it since. They HAVE to have one, so either they are either operating illegally or for some crazy reason witholding information that would go a long way towards making them a more trustworthy site. That's the whole point of the #. So, we need 2 #'s, the first with all three names on it which StephaKim said was the case, and the 2nd with just her name on it, and we can then verify the dates were legit on the govt side.
That would be huge for them, it can't be understated. It means that they would be accountable legally and easily for any issues, unlike previous businesses Mandelbaum has run under aliases and without the legal items needed. Huge. Cannot be understated. To their benefit on top of it! I am so sure they don't have those numbers that I am offering really solid advice to someone I would rather see never sell another bit or model in this community again because it doesn't even matter lol, shady is as shady does. He doesn't want to get a number because he doesn't ever want to be accountable to the law. I wouldn't either if I was him.
Finally the HH weekender is something they trumpeted so loud and so frequently on their own FB page that it is perhaps the most relavant and 'can't get out of it' lie they told in regards to the loyalty of those they have fooled into believing them. They can't admit they didn't go because it would reveal a huge lie to their audience and call into question all the other promises of goods and advance orders (money taken with no guarantee of an advance order). They can't let their audience know they would create a lie that big and elaborate, especially when there was no real need to do it, no one forced him into that position, he just made a cashgrab and in true Mandelbaum fashion layered lie upon lie until he had a completely unfeasible story, now he just wants everyone to forget what he said and did.
No sir, definitely, those questions need to be hammered home, over and over, for anyone reading this thread, because the answers will either exonnerate them and relieve the community that they are at least dealing with an accountable business, even if they have a very dirty past, and also show they kept their word on one of their biggest promises. Or, the answers will show this is just another giant lie for the sake of lying Daniel Mandelbaum clusterfeth and they should steer clear at all costs as he is running an illegal business and still lying as often as you and I draw breath.
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