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Howdy folks

So I'm just looking for some opinions & thoughts on building this new army. I basically want to use the new forge world renegade militia models & bitz to convert a chaos themed guard army.

First let me jsut say I doubt I'll be playing in many tourneys with this army.. maybe a couple local ones.. so my list doesn't have to be a win at all costs list, I just wanna have fun and blow the crap outta the other guy.

I have a fairly static gunline guard army. 2 platoons, some drop troop vets, lots of tanks. It's kinda fun but I'd like to try and build a stormtrooper army now. Possibly using the same tanks in the beginning. I want a force that can march across the table and kill the other guy, so yeah I'd like it to be mechanized. I'm thinking to start with I'd have 3 units of "renegade stormtroopers" each with a chimera & 2 assault weapons.. I think that's about 200 pts each? my command HQ would also be tooled up with assault weapons and a chimera too.

At my disposal from the main guard army I have 1 russ, 1 demolisher, 1 basilisk & 2 hellhounds so I can add them in too.

I'm thinking also to expand the army I can include a renegade inquisitor with demonhosts, etc, and he would allow for 2 more units of stormtroopers as allies, correct?

never really played with stormtroopers at all, anything else I should think about taking? I plan to start with around 500 pts and then build up from there

IG is not the army to do this. An IG army themed around Storm Troopers is even less optimized for this because of the lower body count.

Sounds like what you really want is Mech Sisters with lots of flamer/melta goodness in Rhinos. It fits in better with your Inquisitor idea and still can use allied Guardsmen

well maybe sisters, but for fluffyness it's really a chaos army just using IG rules So I dunno if sisters would really work.. really the whole reason to have the inquisitor is to get to 2 more units of stormtroopers since the most I can have in the guard army is 3 if I use the Grenadier doctrine. But then I guess as allies I don't really need the inquisitor in the army, only really need him to take an assassin, right?

I think what I'm really after is a more flexible guard army, the way my army plays now is because of my heavy weapons and stuff, I don't want to move my troops, so it's pretty static. Also with the costs involved because of all the FW figures I'll have to buy, it'll be just too expensive to have 2 platoons and guys all over the place. So I'm thinking something mechanized can hang back if it needs to but also take the fight to them.. or I can even try and divide my forces and hide a unit and a few tanks in each table quarter and then play defense. I'm just thinking stormtroopers because they get the better armor save so they'll survive longer against bolters. I know that 4+ works wonders for my genestealers so I'm guessing it will be similar. I could take the carapace doctrine but I just figured stormtroopers would be more fun, and their flashlights are a little better. And I like how I can give em 2 assault weapons and I still have plenty of plasma pistols left for plasma gun conversions I think like now though, the bulk of my points will be spent on tanks.

really the whole reason to have the inquisitor is to get to 2 more units of stormtroopers since the most I can have in the guard army is 3 if I use the Grenadier doctrine

Well 8: 3 elite ST squads, 3 Troop Grenadier & 2 Allied Inq Troops. I doubt you will need that many unless they are all walking.

I think I read somewhere that you can only use 3 troop storm trooper squads, or 3 elite storm trooper squads, but not both.  Did any one else read this?

I hope that's not the case.. even if it was though, 3 units + 2 ally units should be more than enough, the rest of the points will be in tanks

I think I'm gonna end up canning the renegade idea, but I'm still gonna do the stormtroopers. Gonna go with death korps grenadiers as my stormtroopers instead of Kaserkins. I use the Kaserkin sgt model as my army leader, so I don't want 5 of the same model in all the other squads too Plus the death korps should look good in the color scheme I have. I'll prolly start them as grenadiers (since they are!) and give em each their own chimera. gonna work out a list when I get a sec, maybe do a few proxy games too.

Don't know where you would've read that. A Guard army can have 8 squads of Storm Troopers.

3 Elite.
3 Grenadiers.
2 Inquisitorial

BYE