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**ImAGeek**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
If they throw White Scars and Death Guard in with the Prospero book (see Scars novel) they could put Night Lords and Dark Angels in with Calth book 2 and then have all of the legions covered at least once.

White Scars vs Death Guard doesn't need any more than at most a chapter in a book, all it was was a duel. But the Prospero book will be rammed already, with Space Wolves, Thousand Sons, Custodes and Sisters of Silence. And 'Calth book 2' is actually the Shadow Crusade, I guess NL and DA might fit but possibly not. Also, you're missing Blood Angels.

**Looky Likey**

I agree with ImAGeek, doubt we'll see any other legions than SW and TS in the Prospero books - I seem to remember Alan B. saying there will be two of them. They could fit WS into the DA book as NL have already been covered but I'm expecting WS to get their own book as FW have been spreading out the series recently. The WS book would be the perfect book to introduce Orks to 30k, I don't see FW covering an alien race in 30k, but I'm struggling to see who will be the antagonist in the WS book.

Current order that I'm thinking of based on Alan B's pronouncements is:

HH VI - Shadow Crusade with UM/World Eaters/Daemons
HH VII - Prospero - SW/TS/Sisters of Silence
HH VIII - Prospero - SW/TS/Custodies
HH IX - DA/NL?

**ImAGeek**

As far as I know, Propsero is only one book; this is from M-R-Parker from Bolter and Chainsword:

I've read Scars, so I'm aware of the skirmish between the Khan and Mortarion on the ruins of Prospero. What I am unaware of, or haven't heard anything about, is ForgeWorld turning Prospero into a two book series with the second focussing on these events. I've been to the major ForgeWorld events over the past couple of years, attended seminars about the direction of the Heresy series, and chatted to people like Alan Bligh about future plans - and this hasn't come up at all. What has come up at various points has been:
> Prospero: Space Wolves, Thousand Sons, Custodians and Sisters of Silence (still being worked upon)
> Shadow Crusade: Follow-on from Calth, with Word Bearers, Wold Eaters and Ultramarines (was meant to follow directly on from Calth, but may not)
> Mars: Mechanicum Civil War, more comprehensive Mechanicum lists with elements for Dark Mechanicum.
> Signus: Originally brought up about a year ago and containing Signus Prime (Blood Angels vs Daemons), Thramas (Dark Angels vs Night Lords) and maybe White Scars - but this has dropped off the radar a bit.
> Another 'Conquest' style book - this was fresh from the Warhammer World Grand Opening, and may include Shatterred Legions. This could be bumped up the schedule.

**zedmeister**

Specialist Games Alert! I can barely type this, so excited am I. A little snippet from Warseer:

tristessa wrote:6mm/specialist games and Forgeworld - have heard there might be something in the future. Keep watching the skies I guess...

I feel it may be too much to hope for and obviously mountains of salt needed. If they did 6mm Adeptus Titanicus or Battlefleet Heresy, my wallet will be annihilated.

**Yaraton**

Even WE were on Prospero after SW raised it. There was a short story about a lonely TS survivor who was trying to stay alive amidst WE hunting down anyone that wasn't killed by SW.

I personally want to see more AL fluff because GW's "information is not available" transferred into FW's "information is not available".

**WargamingWarrior**

zedmeister wrote:
Specialist Games Alert! I can barely type this, so excited am I. A little snippet from Warseer:

tristessa wrote:6mm/specialist games and Forgeworld - have heard there might be something in the future. Keep watching the skies I guess...

I feel it may be too much to hope for and obviously mountains of salt needed. If they did 6mm Adeptus Titanicus or Battlefleet Heresy, my wallet will be annihilated.

I'd love to see some Epic 30k.

**notprop**

While I would prefer Epic as a main GW line, this would be a nice development.

**Peregrine**

zedmeister wrote:
Specialist Games Alert! I can barely type this, so excited am I. A little snippet from Warseer:

tristessa wrote:6mm/specialist games and Forgeworld - have heard there might be something in the future. Keep watching the skies I guess...

I feel it may be too much to hope for and obviously mountains of salt needed. If they did 6mm Adeptus Titanicus or Battlefleet Heresy, my wallet will be annihilated.

The "watching the skies" bit is interesting. A revival of Aeronautica Imperialis maybe? Please?

**zedmeister**

notprop wrote:While I would prefer Epic as a main GW line, this would be a nice development.

It's doubtful FW would do 6mm Infantry. They had enough problems with miscasts when they did their first round with Grey Knights and Tau. But 6mm Tru-Scale Titans...

Peregrine wrote:The "watching the skies" bit is interesting. A revival of Aeronautica Imperialis maybe? Please?

Yes please! Love that game. More planes is never a bad thing, especially if we get to dogfight with Fire Raptors, Xiphons and the like...

**Looky Likey**

ImAGeek wrote:
As far as I know, Propsero is only one book; this is from M-R-Parker from Bolter and Chainsword:

I've read Scars, so I'm aware of the skirmish between the Khan and Mortarion on the ruins of Prospero. What I am unaware of, or haven't heard anything about, is ForgeWorld turning Prospero into a two book series with the second focussing on these events. I've been to the major ForgeWorld events over the past couple of years, attended seminars about the direction of the Heresy series, and chatted to people like Alan Bligh about future plans - and this hasn't come up at all. What has come up at various points has been:
> Prospero: Space Wolves, Thousand Sons, Custodians and Sisters of Silence (still being worked upon)
> Shadow Crusade: Follow-on from Calth, with Word Bearers, Wold Eaters and Ultramarines (was meant to follow directly on from Calth, but may not)
> Mars: Mechanicum Civil War, more comprehensive Mechanicum lists with elements for Dark Mechanicum.
> Signus: Originally brought up about a year ago and containing Signus Prime (Blood Angels vs Daemons), Thramas (Dark Angels vs Night Lords) and maybe White Scars - but this has dropped off the radar a bit.
> Another 'Conquest' style book - this was fresh from the Warhammer World Grand Opening, and may include Shatterred Legions. This could be bumped up the schedule.

My guess is that the next book will be picked on based on sales of the UM stuff released for HH V and how ready they are with the new models for the Prospero book? The insertion of Prospero into the two books for UM has come after this years HH weekender (there they were saying next two were UM and Prospero later due to the amount of new stuff needed) so maybe they are further along than we think with that one? I get the feeling that plans have changed recently and are still fluid.

I can't see them fitting in Prospero into one single book, there are just far too many armies (spire guard, sisters of silence, custodies, SW, TS and probably some sort of Militia) that need to make it in, and FW seem to be extending the series at present not condensing it. Adding in WS into a second wrap up book for Prospero would be a great idea, otherwise I can't see them featuring till the actual Siege with FW's self imposed ban on featuring Alien races in the 30k rules.

The Mars civil war book has always been mentioned as being planned for release very late into the series? I'm expecting at least one of the stand alone books to cover dark mech and chaos knights way ahead of the Mars book.

**Enigwolf**

Which book were Night Lords in?

Also, out of curiosity (from someone who doesn't play 40k), how do akimbo bolt pistols work? 2 shots or twin-linked? (I think I remember the Seraphim Sisters in SoB had akimbo BPs too right?)

**ImAGeek**

We already have the rules for Militia, which work fine for Spire Guard (or SA), I've not heard anything about Spire Guard having their own rules. So SW, TS (which will be legion rules, ROW, and a handful of characters/units each) and then SoS and Custodes, which will probably be smallish lists. So it's a fair amount, but not too much for one book.

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Enigwolf wrote:
Which book were Night Lords in?

Also, out of curiosity (from someone who doesn't play 40k), how do akimbo bolt pistols work? 2 shots or twin-linked? (I think I remember the Seraphim Sisters in SoB had akimbo BPs too right?)

They're in Massacre.

**Rippy**

I want these guys already!!

**Looky Likey**

ImAGeek wrote:
We already have the rules for Militia, which work fine for Spire Guard (or SA), I've not heard anything about Spire Guard having their own rules. So SW, TS (which will be legion rules, ROW, and a handful of characters/units each) and then SoS and Custodes, which will probably be smallish lists. So it's a fair amount, but not too much for one book.

I'd be disappointed if they did anything remotely like that for TS or Spire Guard. TS need the ability to make two lists, one a proper legion list with sorcerers at the sergeant level as an upgrade and a post rubic list. I guess you could do that with just two units but I really hope they don't and instead expand it out properly with different structure and power levels. Likewise with Spire Guard, the Milita list can make just about anything, what it doesn't give you is unique units or structure like the Solar list, I'm hoping Spire Guard will be similar.

I don't know what SoS will look like for units, but Custodes have power armour, terminator armour, vehicles, etc., they should be similar to a full legion in terms of options even down to the characters. I'd expect them to work a lot like 40k SW lone wolves in that any one Custodies can take just about any option and you can mix and match within the unit.

**Formosa**

Custodes are more like current grey knights in my mind, with without the psychic powers, or maybe some do, there could be a Custodes psyker about.

But land raiders, rhinos, power armour, terminators, dreads is about all they have as far as I'm aware from the artwork.

**ImAGeek**

The Custodes won't have anywhere near the options of the legion list. The legion list is massive.

I don't think we'll get a list for the Spire Guard. Calth militia didn't get a seperate list. Hell the warp cults are more different than the Spire Guard and they're still part of the Militia list. Maybe they'll get a unit of something, but they really don't need a whole list. So let's say there's a seperate list for the TS, that's still one big list and 2 small ones. Seems doable in one book.

**Enigwolf**

Looky Likey wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
So it's a fair amount, but not too much for one book.
I'd be disappointed if they did anything remotely like that for TS or Spire Guard. TS need the ability to make two lists, one a proper legion list with sorcerers at the sergeant level as an upgrade and a post rubic list.

I doubt we'll see a post-Rubric list in the 30k line. The Rubric of Ahriman didn't happen until later, when mutation was actually a serious problem and Magnus was already a Daemon Primarch. The Thousand Sons were effectively out of the picture of the Horus Heresy after the fall of Prospero.

**Looky Likey**

Custodies have flying rhinos, jetbikes and landspeeders in visions of heresy, so I'm hopeful they will include them although we may have to wait till Terra to see everything. I'm hopeful for Prospero as its the first time we've seen a large scale engagement for the Custodies and I'm not sure we'll see another now till Terra?

Stats wise I think of base Custodies being similar to GK justicars but with the freedom to take whatever weapons or armour like a lonewolf and operate like an army of ICs.

Spire Guard will need models otherwise somebody else will do them, and I can't see models without dedicated rules.

We may see Calith Milita in the next UM book, we've already seen most of the UM list in V, with WE and WB already covered in other books so only need minor things other than Daemons. DP Angron would be top of my list for that book but I guess all of the DPs might be saved till Terra.

**ImAGeek**

Daemon Angron is in the Shadow Crusade book apparantly.

**Yaraton**

Spire Guard are very special PDF troops though. In my opinion, if FW decides to make them, they will get 4-5 upgrade kits compatible with the current Cadian plastics at the most. Probably the basic troops, command squad, an elite unit and most likely some wacky support squad with a bizarre weapon.

**Looky Likey**

ImAGeek wrote:
Daemon Angron is in the Shadow Crusade book apparantly.

That would be awesome.

**Alpharius**

zedmeister wrote:
Specialist Games Alert! I can barely type this, so excited am I. A little snippet from Warseer:

tristessa wrote:6mm/specialist games and Forgeworld - have heard there might be something in the future. Keep watching the skies I guess...

I feel it may be too much to hope for and obviously mountains of salt needed. If they did 6mm Adeptus Titanicus or Battlefleet Heresy, my wallet will be annihilated.

Some kind of Space Marine/Titan Legions 6mm revival would be...

...[puts on sunglasses]...

...Epic!

The gaming budget would be in serious jeopardy if this happens - but I'll be really, really happy if it does!

**Formosa**

A return of Epic is very unlikely as Ffg currently has the rights, same with a space combat game, they have done nothing with it and I'm unsure why they have it licenced, but hopefully something will come of it.

**Rayvon**

Alpharius wrote:
zedmeister wrote:
Specialist Games Alert! I can barely type this, so excited am I. A little snippet from Warseer:

tristessa wrote:6mm/specialist games and Forgeworld - have heard there might be something in the future. Keep watching the skies I guess...

I feel it may be too much to hope for and obviously mountains of salt needed. If they did 6mm Adeptus Titanicus or Battlefleet Heresy, my wallet will be annihilated.

Some kind of Space Marine/Titan Legions 6mm revival would be...

...[puts on sunglasses]...

...Epic!

The gaming budget would be in serious jeopardy if this happens - but I'll be really, really happy if it does!

Pretty much my opinion on the matter as well.

**zedmeister**

Aye, I'd go mad, spending. If they went the 6mm Adeptus Titanicus route, they could easily do a pilot release. All they'd need is 3 classes of Titan, a clutch of weapons and tweak the existing rules and job done. It'd be a seller. Who wouldn't want to engage in Engine War?

**Alpharius**

FFG has the rights to 40K Epic scale games?

Huh?

**zedmeister**

Alpharius wrote:
FFG has the rights to 40K Epic scale games?

Huh?

I think it might be in reference to the Forgotten Stars game. Though I can state, those aren't Epic pieces. They're definitely more like some luxury board game pieces. I was under the impression that FFG didn't have a license to produce tabletop game miniatures.

**Tannhauser42**

Personally, I would vastly prefer BFG 30K over Epic 30K.

I think the whole thing about FFG "making minis" is that GW doesn't want FFG making minis that could be used in GW's current games. As Epic and BFG are not current GW games, FFG might be good to go on making them.

**Alpharius**

I hear you there T42, but I'd prefer Epic 40K over all that - because it would be 'easy' to make an Epic 30K variant of it too.

GW just needs to fire up the plastic production on the old plastic Epic Infantry boxes and then let FW handle everything else, and they we'd all win!

**hotsauceman1**

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