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You learned enough from making Excalibur to make the majority of the Knight so much faster, and each of those will give you ideas to use on the next, so your last tank model will llikely go the fastest. Just like the T-300 has been done in half the time of the T-400, Perun taught me a lot as I made him into the tank he is.

yep... the new one got indeed built way faster...and i think a third one will hopefully be much more professional than the ones before...

and because you get so much fatser and better in your constructions i won´t let you off the chain before you have built a shrine tank^^...i am a pitbull for that^^


oh and here is another one for your oddballs:

I will begin drawing a shrine design tank soon.

A Mac can do everything a PC does, except for handling databases. And unfortunately businesses use databases.

ahhhh.... a shrine tank done by shaso...this will get even more spectacular!!!

So I have heard, I also have heard most artists prefer Macs for their CGI works, but some use PC's

Speaking of computers and their operating systems, what started with this

And presently we uses these:

Has lead us to this so far:

May one day lead us to relying on these for our defense:


And they may get upset once they become self aware.


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Viktor von Domm wrote:ahhhh.... a shrine tank done by shaso...this will get even more spectacular!!!

I have it laden with small gun mounts, a more "equalized tread system, and the other drawn concepts are smaller one man turrets and statuary, possbly scrolls and other adornments like filigree work, but is a drawing at present, I would have to scan and post it for you all to see

the new tank is even better than the perun shazo, but i think the best is yet to come,did ihear shrine tank?

neil101 wrote:the new tank is even better than the perun shazo, but i think the best is yet to come,did ihear shrine tank?

Thanks, Perun was a teaching experience, and it has given me the knowledge I need to make my own designs now.

And yes, instead of a main gun turret, it has a tower topped by a statue, and surrounded by other statues and a massive pipe organ like arrangement., smaller turrets and guns, and flamers, must have the purging cleanliness of fire!

yesss please!!!! show us your mind at work^^

and lol...

And they may get upset once they become self aware

this is a skynet one...isn´t it?^^

and what is that third pic showing??? a true one there? or some conceptual work?

And yes, instead of a main gun turret, it has a tower topped by a statue, and surrounded by other statues and a massive pipe organ like arrangement., smaller turrets and guns, and flamers, must have the purging cleanliness of fire!

that sounds bombastic!!!

Here is the Shrine Tank concept, I may widen the hull to make it work better if it needs it. I know, this is still a raw design concept.

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Interesting, how big are you looking at?

monkeytroll wrote:Interesting, how big are you looking at?

Something like this definitely fits the superheavy tank range, likely 200-250mm length, like a baneblade, but it will be quite the tall monster for the men to see and be inspired by, as well as allow the laudhailers max coverage!

If I did not have so many normal sized tanks, (between the 12 Leman Russ and Sabres and Mazurka) I would likely make Leman sized models from scratch like Vik, who has no other tanks. (and he is also damn good with that card-board!)

Vik: That all ribs looking thing is a working prototype under testing.

the multi turret concept got me sold instantly...so landship like! and the statues is some very nice concept too...what will you use for these? some reaper minis or some WHFB knights?

does the khardovian konfederacy have some own unique signs? like my viktorians have their take on the union jack? maybe you could use some sort of hammer and sickle version?


this will be a truly epic tank! i am actually kind of envious that you came up with that staue idea! or how about somethink a bit like a "arbeiterdenkmal" with craftsmen and soldiers in the mix... like the old russian monuments were... didn´t find a good pic...


will the all ribs thingy be an organ? that would ne a nice idea....

Viktor von Domm wrote:the multi turret concept got me sold instantly...so landship like! and the statues is some very nice concept too...what will you use for these? some reaper minis or some WHFB knights?

does the khardovian konfederacy have some own unique signs? like my viktorians have their take on the union jack? maybe you could use some sort of hammer and sickle version?


this will be a truly epic tank! i am actually kind of envious that you came up with that staue idea! or how about somethink a bit like a "arbeiterdenkmal" with craftsmen and soldiers in the mix... like the old russian monuments were... didn´t find a good pic...


will the all ribs thingy be an organ? that would ne a nice idea....

Yes, like a landship concept, but with some Muenster tossed in!

I will seek out many minis as to make a statue, then debate on bronze or stone ones for the paint. Statue on top will have some Hammer and sickle in it's hands for the theme feel.

Alas, so many minis are not so workman related, and that "shrine" is supposed to inspire courage/bravery/sacrifice, in the midst of massive battles where death walks amongst the men. But if I find a good one that looks like a Russian worker holding a tool morphed into a weapon.......Hmm, sledge hammer with the haft turning into a rifle at the opposite end of the Head! Oh Yeah!

Not sure if that will get out and be actual US issue or not.


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Khadrovian take on Russian Symbols? Hmmm, Maybe different tools or making the stars gold with red border?

Niice, how about an old Russian Man?
http://migproductions-usa.com/civil-oldman-russian.html

Nice. And then I have to find a few n\minis, so the hunt will be on.

And remember, if you're making it all out 'shrine'-y, you don't just want bare, flat plates. Look into making reliefs, sculptures and such for the sides- something I've just found is a pretty nice way to sculpt is to take some of the cheap Crayola air-dry clay, make it into properly-sized tablets, and let it completely dry- then you can carve that with knives and such, and get a ton of precision. You could then either cast them, or just seal them and paint them up, if you're going to be careful with the tank.

I was also planning on making mini frescoes, or murals on the flats.

*rubbing hands* i like that point where you plan out a new project and the mind is all fizzly and is jetting around the world! that´s when i come truly alive!

the air dry clay plates for carving sounds like a good thing...

as for the sybolism.... i thought not to use the aquilla so ften or rather none at all...the red star would be very fitting...if you have problems with tool and stuff maybe you could look out for playmobil or possibly lego stuff as additions.... they do have fitting tools...at least in a monumental scale...
the old man look nice but more scenic than a statue.... the general form reaper chronoscope i want to use one day as a commissar for my troops woudl be a possible good candidate for a statue... also i would add the occaisional empire kgnight or even too something from reaper...some paladin...in a pose resembling the oscar...or heck get three or four oscar minis and then add some grey stuff for details....like some russian helmets and maybe uniforms...they could stay bare chested...

as for carving... there is this dude here who does miracles with cardboard and miliput...:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/398588.page


amazing , isn´t it?

That is awesome work indeed. Not sure how I will have it all done, but I will seek out some good minis for the task!

Coming at you folks! with metallics added!
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Sponson guns also had their metallics done!
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Even the back got metal!
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With men around to show how massive it really is. (is a super-heavy, it's supposed to be like this!)
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holy armor...i totally forgott with the first pic that this is a scratch built and not a bought kit...

very good work there...i guess now the decal work will be next? and then the usual mud treatment?

Viktor von Domm wrote:holy armor...i totally forgott with the first pic that this is a scratch built and not a bought kit...

very good work there...i guess now the decal work will be next? and then the usual mud treatment?

Thank you! I love it when a scratch-build get's such a mis-identification made!

Not quite, still have the vision blocks to do, the tools and fabric roll, and some attempt at making the exhausts look like peeling rust coming off. THEN, I will decal and dirty it, (I also have to paint the track shoe centers black.)

on dsteins blog PDH posted a link about a sort of paint that gets all crackly...

dsteingass - About 3/4 way down the link there are some shoulder pads that have been painted with crackle effect.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?31535-Space-Marine-WIP-Part-2./page6

At the bottom of page 4 it gives you a run-down of how to do it and what materials he used. Hope that helps

http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?31535-Space-Marine-WIP-Part-2./page4

this might be expensive but it got me instantly drooling^^ but i recon you could achive that effect also with a coat of PVA and then thicker paint over the almost dried glue... then the totally drying process of the PVA would let the paint shrink or something... i had some cracks when lastly done that on some points...not inteded then...

Well, for the exhasust the salt lightly coating a fresh batch of Tin bits, and then painting over it with another color, like the track shoes and then rubbing it off should work for what i have available.

sounds good too...

Now this will be so good once done and makes the thing look rusted.

Man that is looking good! Once you highlight the edges of tha armor plate, that paintjob will really pop! I can't wait!

So much more to do!, and then the decals, and the muddying it up, it will be wild!

hey every man needs a wild card once in a while^^