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2022/02/28 00:34:33
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (MoN ErrataFaq, Arena of Shades NH v DoK box set. Event Mini p. 61, Roadmap p 62)
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Lieutenant General
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Voss wrote:
They're both currently on the US store at the same price, so no. No assumption.
From the product description:
Please note – when you purchase this miniature, you’ll receive the Start Collecting! Fyreslayers box. This contains the complete Magmadroth kit, with all the options as described here, as well 10 Vulkite Berzerkers, for the same price!
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2022/02/28 00:42:03
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (MoN ErrataFaq, Arena of Shades NH v DoK box set. Event Mini p. 61, Roadmap p 62)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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If they reboxed the hearthguard at 10/$60 it'd give the army a big shot in the arm.
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Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. |
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2022/02/28 05:20:12
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (MoN ErrataFaq, Arena of Shades NH v DoK box set. Event Mini p. 61, Roadmap p 62)
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Has there been any hints of Vanguard box for Idoneth Deepkin or Fyreslayers?
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That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left. |
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2022/02/28 08:43:51
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (MoN ErrataFaq, Arena of Shades NH v DoK box set. Event Mini p. 61, Roadmap p 62)
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Fixture of Dakka
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New pricing in effect
Battletomes IDK & FS £32.50 €42.50
Dice £24 €31.50
Cards £19 €24.50
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2022/02/28 09:20:42
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (MoN ErrataFaq, Arena of Shades NH v DoK box set. Event Mini p. 61, Roadmap p 62)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Is that right for the books? That's a touch cheaper than the current books.
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2022/02/28 09:24:27
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (MoN ErrataFaq, Arena of Shades NH v DoK box set. Event Mini p. 61, Roadmap p 62)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Nurgle 37.5€. Hard to see how 42.5€ is cheaper than 37.5€...
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2022/02/28 09:29:43
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (MoN ErrataFaq, Arena of Shades NH v DoK box set. Event Mini p. 61, Roadmap p 62)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm talking about the UK. All the most current books are £25.
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2022/02/28 09:34:34
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (MoN ErrataFaq, Arena of Shades NH v DoK box set. Event Mini p. 61, Roadmap p 62)
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Dakka Veteran
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I believe it's a typo and should read £32.50 which tranlates into 42.50€.
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That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left. |
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2022/02/28 09:56:26
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (MoN ErrataFaq, Arena of Shades NH v DoK box set. Event Mini p. 61, Roadmap p 62)
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Fixture of Dakka
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jullevi wrote:I believe it's a typo and should read £32.50 which tranlates into 42.50€.
Yeah sorry typo £32.50 is correct
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2022/02/28 14:24:10
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (MoN ErrataFaq, Arena of Shades NH v DoK box set. Event Mini p. 61, Roadmap p 62)
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Fixture of Dakka
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2022/02/28 20:26:57
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Now that fills in the picture. Very interesting.
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Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. |
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2022/03/05 15:25:06
Subject: Re:AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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[DCM]
Savage Minotaur
Baltimore, Maryland
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Fyreslayer tome review from GoonHammer(for no reason other than that it was the first I saw) :
https://www.goonhammer.com/battletome-fyreslayers-3rd-edition-review/
Not sure how I feel about the book just yet. Alot of preview changes I looked at seemed like straight nerfs, but there are a few changes that are pretty interesting and fun.
I do like this command trait alot:
Leader of the Duardrazhal – This is actually the most interesting to me, by far. While your general is on the table all Duardin allies are treated as having the Fyreslayer keyword for the purposes of the Ur-Gold Runes battle trait. This does not allow non-Fyreslayer heroes to use the new heroic action though, so keep that in mind. Allowing Hammerers, Irondraks, Longbeards, Runelords, and all of the Kharadron Overlords to benefit from the runes is actually huge. The best though is probably Irondrakes being able to deal mortal wounds on 6’s to wound with the Rune of Searing Heat but any of these units gaining the benefit of the other runes is fantastic. What this also means is that Gotrek Gurnisson will be benefiting from your runes, which is huge; extra move early game and extra rend/bonus to hit/mortal wounds later on is nuts on him.
Obvious point of frustration right off the bat :
What’s probably most confusing is that the changes we got in Fury of the Deep box set were temporary as well. The Warscrolls of these units are the same but the points costs very much are not, which is just strange. I’m not sure why they changed them in that box set only to be changed again a month later, probably has to do with printing time scales and I’ll be interested to see which is “correct” but at this time to answer is the book, since it’s the latest printing, and that’s unfortunate.
Kind of agree with the closing statement:
Closing Thoughts
It’s going to take some time, and a lot of gaming, to really find what makes this book “click” now. At the surface level it feels like a lot has been stripped away from the army, and there’s no doubt that the army has changed in how it looks, which is amazing for an army with only 3 units plus heroes! If you were around for first edition you remember the 90-120 Vulkite spam, and then the Hearthguard Berzerker spam that we saw predominantly with the last book. It looks like there’s going to be a mix of the two now and there will probably be some really esoteric builds popping up with various allied Duardin units too with that cool new command trait.
If you want an army that’s immediately and obviously competitive to take to the top tables of events this is not going to be that book, if you want excessively angry, mostly-naked dwarfs, then it definitely is.
Its always been a weird army, given that the roster is so limited and there is alot of overlap in how the rules are written for those units/characters. Hoping this book pans out into something fun at the least.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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2022/03/05 15:28:27
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Why he expected points for 2nd ed book would be same as for 3rd ed book...
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
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2022/03/05 15:30:33
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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To be fair AoS 3.0 is changing the look of a LOT of armies by the whole reinforcement system basically removing big infantry block spam as a tactical option. Even at 2K points you can only have 2 full units now, with the rest being minimum strength.
I kind of get the feeling they did it to try and create difference with the approaching Old World game; but also to make middle-weight units carry their weight more so as they stopped having to compete point for point with big infantry blocks. However its also having the flipside effect that big monstrous creatures are more popular - at least in armies that have tricks to the rules that let you exceed the regular limit on them.
I still think AoS needs more divisions - cavalry really should be its own thing not just a "Troop" block that basically has everything from infantry to cavalry to elite style units.
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2022/03/05 15:35:57
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Keywords for unit types is definitely a massive resource AoS has left mostly untapped. Infantry, cavalry, monstrous infantry, etc.
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Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. |
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2022/03/06 19:16:17
Subject: Re:AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Apparently there's going to be rules for BoK in the next White Dwarf.
I guess it crosses them off from the list for the next Chaos Codex ?
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-"For the Ruinous Powers!" |
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2022/03/06 19:39:17
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Skaven has been so strong hint odds were miniscular. Worse is no book before 2023 earliest. Was hoping for fall/winter
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
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2022/03/07 14:51:11
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2022/03/07 14:53:23
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Early april, books in may would be my guess
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
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2022/03/07 16:44:34
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Was hoping Ogors would be sooner. The changes to coherency and the issues with ranges has basically made running Gutbusters feel like such a chore.
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2022/03/11 09:16:33
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Well khorne update can be summed as:
altar reroll prayers instead of +1, buff. Makes enemy miscasts more deadly, makes non-priest heroes able to create invocations while garrisoning.
Army now has 6+ ignore spells which also gives blood tithe.
Couple kill specific unit(unit near altar or wizard) and one your unit needs to kill 8+ models.
Grand strategy is very bad requiring turns 2 onward daemon unit summoned. Don't have 2+ bloodtithe on your turn? Failed. Would be usable IF bloodtithe didn't reset when you use it...But then again pretty much every faction specific grand strategy is inferior to generic ones so no big deal. Can btw lead to situation where opponent in turn 1 might opt to not kill any of your units. He makes you go first, you pray 1 bloodtithe but opponent deployed in way you can't kill anything. He just needs to not kill any unit on his turn(or give CP via new battletrait by casting spell at you) and you fail your grand strategy automatically.
Overall not stellar update but I can find use for that. Just extra blood tithe can be big at right time. Too bad no battle tactic that didn't require killing but guess to be expected for khorne Objective capturing isn't all that khorney...
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
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2022/03/11 09:33:57
Subject: Re:AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/6074
pictures.
Now i only need harlequins rules for KT
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2022/03/11 12:35:45
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Next wd update kharadrons. Leaving just sylvaneth and lumineth without wd update or 3rd ed battletome.
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
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2022/03/11 13:09:46
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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tneva82 wrote:Next wd update kharadrons. Leaving just sylvaneth and lumineth without wd update or 3rd ed battletome.
Aren't Hedonites and Gloomspite left behind there, too?
edit: and Nighthaunt and Tzeentch and Skaven?
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2022/03/11 13:14:34
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Nighthaunt are one of the next 2 army books (along with Daughters of Khaine) after Fyreslayers/Idoneth.
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2022/03/11 13:15:03
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Sorry forgot to write this in reference to summer order book.
Only 6 factions left without wd/book that isn't at least announced so odds are aos armies are at least wd updated by this year. Better than 40k!
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2022/03/11 13:18:59
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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chaos0xomega wrote:Nighthaunt are one of the next 2 army books (along with Daughters of Khaine) after Fyreslayers/Idoneth.
Ohh, right. I forgot about Nighthaunt (didn't add DoK to my list because I knew they were announced )
Better than 40k!
This I deeply agree with. Loving the White Dwarf updates! as a Kharadron player excited to see what will come.
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2022/03/11 13:34:44
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Good for ko players myself that's 1 army 0 interest and i have yet to even face them once so pretty indifferent. But good they got one.
Next wd update i'm hoping is lumineth. They don't need new book that much so would be nice to get them out of way quickly.
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2022/03/11 18:46:23
Subject: AOS News & Rumors (Fyreslayer + Idoneth Deepkin Battletome preorder March 5)
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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The WD updates have been nice. While certainly they did not always do enough, they have consistently improved the state of AoS. I'm glad they've been doing them.
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Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. |
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2022/03/14 16:25:36
Subject: Re:AOS News & Rumors (Battlescroll March 14)
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Savage Minotaur
Baltimore, Maryland
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Battlescroll Update:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/14/will-you-become-predator-or-prey-in-the-latest-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-battlescroll-update/
Grab your hammers, axes, and bows, and muster your forces for battle – the latest seasonal rules update for Warhammer Age of Sigmar is here!
For those in need of a refresher, Battlescrolls gather rules changes, points changes, and other tweaks into a simple, easy-to-read format, giving you the information you need to balance a close-fought matched play game of Warhammer Age of Sigmar.
This latest Battlescroll is titled The Hunt, and it takes a satisfyingly different approach to balance.
Matt Rose from the Warhammer Studio has some insight into this unique balance update.
“It’s an exciting time for Warhammer Age of Sigmar rules development, with a bunch of battletomes on the way, bringing new rules and points values specifically designed for the latest edition of the game.”
Balancing the game is a task that requires constant attention. For this second Battlescroll, the team are trying something different, providing “a standalone mechanism for us to address balance without invalidating the content of the battletomes you have collected, clashing with points contained in upcoming books, or restricting the use of an army that you may have spent a lot of time collecting and painting”.
To that end, the Predators and Prey rule in the General’s Handbook 2021 is being expanded. This rule provides players with another way of earning victory points – by targeting the biggest threats in the Mortal Realms. Players who choose to pack their roster with dominant units like the Dracothian Guard will surrender precious victory points for each unit lost.
On the other hand, players running factions that aren’t performing as well can earn even more victory points by taking down units at the top of the competitive meta. These bonus points make it possible for many armies to score some big wins, in matchups where they might previously have struggled.
You don’t need to change your army rosters in response to this update – but it might make some lesser-used units and factions rather more appealing.
“The lists of Priority Targets and Prime Hunters have been built based on both feedback from tournament players as well as analysis of data from hundreds of events”, explains Matt.
There’s been “a particular focus on the win rate per warscroll – that is, the percentage of time a faction wins when a certain warscroll is included in the roster.”
This update will go live on the Warhammer Age of Sigmar app in the coming days – you’ll also see that changes from the previous Battlescroll update remain valid, and have been added to the app and the FAQ documents.
“We’re aware that this change will be more effective at addressing certain types of issues than others,” Matt explains. “Keep in mind, this is just one part of a bigger picture. We’ll continue to release updated warscrolls and allegiance abilities in Battletomes and other supplements, and keep rebalancing points values in the General’s Handbooks.”
“It’s important to keep in mind that our regular Battlescroll updates are focused on game balance in matched play, with a particular focus on organised play and events. If you’re new to the game or tend to play more casually, it’s totally up to you and your opponent whether to include this system in your games of Warhammer Age of Sigmar.”
The Studio is keen to hear what you think about these changes – and everything else concerning the Warhammer Age of Sigmar rules. Send your queries and comments to aosfaq@gwplc.com.
“We read every email sent in”, Matt assures us, “and while we don’t reply right away – we’d rather collect feedback and publish any changes publically, so everyone has the same information – we factor your feedback and recommendations into our ongoing work.”
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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