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Is there any rule which states what kind of minimum size a Battlewagon has to be? I realize that it should probably be something larger than a Trukk seeing as the Trukk only has a capacity of 12 models, but does it have to be something like Baneblade sized? Could you use a converted Land Raider or something of a similar size? Or is this generally something that would have to be agreed upon prior to a game?

To the best of my knowledge, there are no set sizes on any of them.

Do a google Images search for "Ork Battlewagon" and see what you come up with.
The most common similarity will be that they're all large.
I've seen conversions made frome a Land Raider, to a LR & other tanks kitBASHED together (emphasis BASHED), to multiple Land Raiders to Super Heavy tanks, like Baneblades.

Make it big and Orky and I don't forsee that you'd have a problem.


Eric

This is what I think of when I envision orks packed into transports:



Now somebody go and make one

What's Yak's 1st rule of wargaming? "You can use modeling to your advantage, you can use modeling to your advantage, you can use modeling to your advantage"?

Sure you can use modeling to your advantage. It's just unsportsmanlike.

Forgeworld produces a line of Battlewagons that are a good template for deciding how big one should be. Remember that the model only represents something that it crude but effectively built, and that the model itself deserves to be well-modeled. I think there's a bloke in the Painting and Modeling forum who's done an amazing job on a trukk that serves as a good example to anyone converting Ork vehicles.

I feel that the battlewagon is a main battlefield tank, and as such it should probably be sized like one. Something about the size of a landraider or Guard Russ equivalent should be fine.

Personally, If you make it to big, your actually doing yourself a disservice. But I think we can all agree it should be bigger than a rhino or landspeeder.

Unfortunatly there is nothing that says it HAS to be bigger than a rhino or landspeeder.

Yakface's rule number one for sure applies here. About it being unsportsmanlike to use crative modelling, that might be the case when someone tries to use an Epic scale Battlewagon for WH40K

As for a valid size, GW used to sell a Ork Battlewagon back in the day. I'd say that one can hardly blame anyone for being unsportsmanlike and/or using a too small Battlewagon if it is about GW's very own size.

Given the Battlewagon's proportions it should have the footprint of two trukks. The out of print GW Battlewagon is trukk-sized and would best represent a trukk now.

Y'know, sometimes GW's "bigger is better" pandering to its fans is kind of annoying. But I'm just saying that because I'm looking at a Battlewagon I converted from a Semovente.

I personaly would say that a Battlewagon at the smallest should be the size of a Russ. to be as large as a Baneblade. It would all depend on its utility during the game. If it is just going to have a kannon and a few other weapons then it should be about the size of a Russ. If it is going to be fully tricked out and transport 20 Orks then it should be at least the size of Land Raider but no larger than a Baneblade. All in all you can model it any way you like but if you take to much advantage of that prepare to eat a 0 for sports.

My plans for battlewagons are land raider sized, squiggoth sized (hurrah for "close combat" upgrades for wagons), and defiler sized. Since GW haven't bothered making a model for me, they and my opponents can like it or lump it.

Roughly half-way between a baneblade and a trukk. The skullhamma transports 30 and is baneblade size so a battlewagon should be the middle point between that and a trukk.

It should at least be bigger than the new trukk. A little puny anyway.

When I built my baneblade I didnt use the bottom hull. I replaced the first part with plasticard and the underside is nonexistant but its out of sight anyway. I took that and put it on a trukk. and made it a trukk with a huge flat bed then added lots of orky bits. looks really good. fast and easy battlewagon

You know, I always figured the battlewagon size is roughly based on how many boyz a trukk can carry. If a trukk can carry 12 boyz, and a battlewagon could carry 20, then the battlewagon is twice the size of a trukk (or at least the size of a trukk + a second trukks flatbed).

The Battlewagon is open topped, so If I was gonna make one, I'd use the I/G Basilisk model, or the parts from the Chimera to make the old griffon model, which was an open topped chimera. Maybe the Griffon model would fit a looted vehicle more. Some posters are saying "size of a Land Raider" but I say, not really cause the things supposed to be open topped.

So cut the top off a land raider. The thing is still supposed to have FA 14 and a chimera generall doesn't represent this well IMO.

Bylak wrote:Is there any rule which states what kind of minimum size a Battlewagon has to be? I realize that it should probably be something larger than a Trukk seeing as the Trukk only has a capacity of 12 models, but does it have to be something like Baneblade sized? Could you use a converted Land Raider or something of a similar size? Or is this generally something that would have to be agreed upon prior to a game?

omg it has to be huge or forgeworld.

otherwise the children start screaming that you're doing it wrong.

From what I've heard, about the size of a 1:35 scale tank, so a bit bigger than a landraider.
A trimmed and pimped baneblade chassis would be ideal.

It must be big enough to actually hold 12 or 20 Orks in it!(depending on whether it has a killkannon or not!)

Glue some sheets to the table, add treads underneath,
put a steering up in the middle of nowhere and say

"This entire table is my battlewagon. You all are just
visiting."

And then win.

Personally I think that it should be roughly land raider sized. In fact my one is based on a land raider.

LMAO! about the Train, reminds me of the Squat Gun Train.

My Battle Wagon is 8"long - 6"wide. Just because i wanted to hold my boys. and it does have a (good) survivability rate.
Best thing about Da' Orks is you can make anything out of anything.