Yaraton wrote:
All GW left-hand customers should sue GW for being discriminated against.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Are the new, handless marines cheaper than the older kits? I seem to recall the old kits costing more...

Then again, I could be confusing the price with that of the despoilers.

 IGtR= wrote:
It should be fairly easy for you to find spare space marine hands in your bitz box surely? Or find a friendly space marine player who wishes to donate a gak load of hands/arms.

Erren wrote:
Someone (on B&C I think) was saying that if you call them to place an order, they still have some of the old style in stock that they'll sell while supplies last.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

Crystal-Maze wrote:
Did the codpieces of the MKV heresy armour have studs before? I can't remember them having studs.

I guess it's like the Mk.VI shouldpads, where they needed extra armor for protection.

Which is wierd, because SMs don't reproduce sexually. They basically sacrifice their humanity in the process a la this guy:

Spoiler:

 Alpharius wrote:
As fascinating as this all is - or isn't - please take it over to the 40K Background Forum, please!

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 IGtR= wrote:
It should be fairly easy for you to find spare space marine hands in your bitz box surely? Or find a friendly space marine player who wishes to donate a gak load of hands/arms.

Spare right hands in a clenched fist with a gun handle and trigger? Are there some kits I don't know about?

 Yodhrin wrote:

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 IGtR= wrote:
It should be fairly easy for you to find spare space marine hands in your bitz box surely? Or find a friendly space marine player who wishes to donate a gak load of hands/arms.

Spare right hands in a clenched fist with a gun handle and trigger? Are there some kits I don't know about?

You know you can get sets of 10 tax squad arms on ebay from bitz retailers for like £2 or £3, yeah?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 IGtR= wrote:
It should be fairly easy for you to find spare space marine hands in your bitz box surely? Or find a friendly space marine player who wishes to donate a gak load of hands/arms.

Spare right hands in a clenched fist with a gun handle and trigger? Are there some kits I don't know about?

You know you can get sets of 10 tax squad arms on ebay from bitz retailers for like £2 or £3, yeah?

The current tac arms have the hand attached to the boltgun as well.

You'd need to get the old Tactical Squad arms.

 Anvils Hammer wrote:
And the award for quickest, smallest and least interesting new wargaming product of the decade goes to....

6 right, 2 left.. Ill stick it on the printer with the next proper product! :p

Thanks for your support guys!

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Those MK5 look tasty, but the whole idea behind MK5 is that they are not stock but cobbled together armor, so they shouldn't be the same.

Spoiler:

Oh rom! a miniature Rom game would be cool

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Those MK5 look tasty, but the whole idea behind MK5 is that they are not stock but cobbled together armor, so they shouldn't be the same.

Spoiler:

Oh rom! a miniature Rom game would be cool

No, the idea behind MK5 is that they're a pattern that resulted from cobbled together modifications and alterations to existing armour parts to standardize them enough that they all function together despite damage or the lack of proper parts. Once the modifications are complete it wouldn't really matter if you started with MKII or MKIV or some combination, they all look virtually the same once you've added extra armour, bonding studs, external cabling etc, and the FW kits are evidently intended to represent suits which have entirely gone through that process(or been built that way from scratch if the Marines you're modelling didn't have access to better production facilities) and which have the Mantilla pattern helmet(which was an upgrade relative to MKII but a bit worse than MKIV, though easier to produce).

The equipping of the legions was only partially complete when the Horus Heresy broke out. Many of the Legions that had just been fully equipped with Mark IV armour turned against the Imperium while many of the loyal Legions had been deliberately starved of access to it and and remained operating with the older Mark II and Mark III armour. Additionally, even the Legions equipped with Mark IV suits quickly found themselves low on spare parts and unable to manufacture replacement units. With war damage and mobile operations, resupply for damaged equipment was difficult or impossible. Marine artificers and Techmarines had to use old style equipment from older models to keep the legions fighting, as well as salvaged from slain enemies and unorthodox innovations of their own.[1][8]
This ad-hoc assemblage of various armour mark segments (including new or unoffical design elements) being created by a multitude of legions resulted in an entirely new mark of armour being 'accidentally' created; these previously non-standard, emergency/stopgap designs were retroactively termed as the Mark V once production of the Mark IV was halted and the design for the subsequent Corvus Armour mark (Mark VI) was finalised. Some form of standardisation across Mark V suits is is notable, despite their apparently random creation and individual varied origins, due to the dissemination of molecular bonding techniques across the legions. These techniques were developed due to battlefield experiece in fighting other Astartes; Astartes plate needed to be proof against their own penetrator weapons, and it was discovered that power armour would benefit from additional reinforcing in this regard.[6] All sorts of improvised additional armour can be seen on Mark V suits, but the most common technique was affix additional layers of armour with the aforementioned molecular bonding studs. This relatively quick and simple technique effectively added another ablative layer to marine armour suits. The extra weight this generated would prove considerable, however, which placed a strain on power supplies. As the addition of extra power generation sources and cabling would just require more armour plating, catching the design in an eternal circle, the wearers of the suit was forced to either deal with the additional weight, or turn up the power output of his backpack but suffer extreme heat output, which not only would prove uncomfortable and even compromising in certain situations,[1][8] and in many cases older, heavy power cabling was used, which created a weak point on the chest[8]

Today’s bulletin in going to be short but sweet. Why? Because a picture is worth a thousand words and I’m so excited I can barely type!

Hot off the presses, take a look at what arrived in the Forge World Studio today...



I only managed to get a quick look inside, but it is absolutely packed with Legion rules, units, rights of war and more. I can’t wait to get my hands on it, and I’m told that a limited number should be available at The Horus Heresy Weekender. Don’t worry if you’re not going to be at the weekender though, I hear that The Horus Heresy Book Six - Retribution is expected to be released very soon after the event.

That’s all from me for now. Make sure you check back soon for more from the Forge World Studio.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Nah there won't be any unique DA models yet as they're only getting their Legion Rules and that's it. No special units in sight.


It's more of a "here, you don't have to wait several more years for your rules" kind of thing.